PAMB and its quotes

JimmyD1318 · Oct 3, 2007

Guess I'll be watching the show also. This might prove to be interesting after all.

Sheryl Nantus · Oct 3, 2007

JCT said:
No on Alien Enigma's board, aka "where the insane run free".

oh, piffle on them.

tell them to go buy my book or Scott's book or Christine's book or... heck, anyone who's been banned from that board and find out what real writing and publishing is about.

remember, it's hard to soar like an eagle if you're flocking with turkeys.

JimmyD1318 · Oct 3, 2007

Sheryl Nantus said:
remember, it's hard to soar like an eagle if you're flocking with turkeys.

JCT · Oct 3, 2007

I like being watched

Afinerosesheis · Oct 3, 2007

JCT said:
I like being watched

I don't =(

brianm · Oct 3, 2007

Afinerosesheis said:
I don't want to go off topic. I am just sick of feeling like I am bad and being watched posting here. What and where I post is my business, especially now that I have cut my membership. Sorry- I am having a pi**y day.

Back to Dr. Phil---- I will be watching.
Like everything else (book discounts), you get a last minute notice in your inbox about it.

I don't know why you bother with those people. The information they provide is no better than the information provided to writers on the PAMB. They're a flock of ostriches with their heads stuck in the sand. (Ostriches flock, right? :Shrug:

)

They're happy with PA, nothing you say will ever change their minds, and that's why PA exists. They are happy just having their books printed and do not have the desire to hone their skills nor the guts to stick their necks out and see if they actually have the talent to be published by a legitimate company.

I'm not a fan of Dr. Phil. I'm also not a fan of shows that spend their time yacking about someone else's problems. I'd rather watch an old movie with a nice big bag of hot, buttered popcorn.

JimmyD1318 · Oct 3, 2007

brianm said:
I'd rather watch an old movie with a nice big bag of hot, buttered popcorn.

Did someone say the magic word! <SNIF! SNIF! SNIF!> There has to be some around here somewhere! I need some POPCORN!

Sheryl Nantus · Oct 3, 2007

and yet...

I'm not seeing anything on the PAMB about the Dr. Phil show. Nor on the main website, which is where they should be trumpeting this.

maybe PA doesn't come off as wonderful as they thought they would?

hmm...

(Mel, just delete the site from your bookmarks and move on. Seriously. You can do better than hanging with people suffering from "golden word syndrome" who attack anyone who claims that there are rules about writing. Delete the site!)

Gillhoughly · Oct 3, 2007

Jersey Chick said:
And are you agreeable to appearing on Dr. Phil?

I wouldn't mind at all--but I rather think his wife would object!

I'll be watching the show as well.

Afterwards it would not hurt for us to write in with more against PA--especially if he supports NOT going with them.

His focus is going to be on getting the mother & daughter to mend their differences. A point of contention is the possible income from this book.

If it truly has the potential of being a bestseller, then they may be contacted by a legit agent willing to put mom in a room with a true crime writer to get the story and do it right. But there won't be any million dollar advances.

The down side is there are plenty of scammers who will do the same thing.

IF the parties concerned have a website for this project and it is mentioned on the show, contact them there to warn 'em. Seems they have enough problems without PA or some other scum ripping them off.

1 million books sold = 3million$ in royalties.

Hm, a typical PA trade selling at a bargain price of 19.95 has to pay 15% royalties on the cover price to earn 2.99 for the writer.

So these dames have 1 million relatives willing to buy a copy?? :roll:

I glanced over the PA site, but they don't seem to have any info on what they offer in royalties unless you submit a form. *Bleep* me if I ever want on their mailing list!

I love how they say you don't need an agent:

Q: Do I need an agent?

Not if you decide to submit your work here. (That's the last thing PA wants--a publishing professional in the deal!

We select our authors without being preached to by agents, no matter how hard they sometimes try. (Are the agents preaching the Good News? Evangelical minds want to know!)

There is not much an agent can do for most new authors, other than try to locate a publisher. (Um, yeah, and your point? I mean it IS their job--along with making overseas sales, looking after your royalties, finding new work opportunities for the writer, making nice with publishers who will send the writer a freakin' check, etc-etc.)

To understate things--PA just makes ya sick.

Christine N. · Oct 3, 2007

Hey, I haven't been banned yet.

We've agreed that we know each other's POV and that one will never convince the other. I have feelings about the mental health of certain members, but other than that it's just a stop to see how things are doing.

It's not someplace I go for any kind of writing advice. Laws, no.

Popeyesays · Oct 3, 2007

Gillhoughly said:
I wouldn't mind at all--but I rather think his wife would object!

To understate things--PA just makes ya sick.

I'm waiting for the master Card commercial:

"Holding your book in your hands: Zero Dollars.

"Enjoying the cover art: Zero dollars

"Royalty check in hand: WORTHLESS!"

Regards,
Scott

CatSlave · Oct 3, 2007

Christine N. said:
Hey, I haven't been banned yet.

Paranoia anyone?
They denied me a membership, although I never posted anything on their forum.
And I've never talked about them on this forum either.

Do you suppose it's due to the company I keep?

Christine N. · Oct 3, 2007

Hey, they know ALL about me, and yet, I'm still allowed there. Go figure.

TwentyFour · Oct 3, 2007

I was banned and ever so nicely at that

Catslave, welcome back and hope all is well!

Paranoia? hmmm...surely you jest

Besides Jeff wanted the board to have fights, otherwise why would he make a publish america thread and open it to guests? Then he changed the title to Various Publishers.

Gravity · Oct 3, 2007

Kind of along the same line, has anyone ever heard of soldier caterpillars (I could be wrong on the name). Anyway, I remember reading about these strange critters. Seems they march in lockstep on branches, one behind the the other, never looking up, never from side to side. Rather like lemmings, I suppose.

In an experiment, a scientist took a large flower pot, and down inside placed some Caterpillar Chow (or leaves, or something). He then started placing the worms on the rim of the bowl, finally putting the last's one head against the lead one's butt (paints a picture, doesn't it?).

Then they were off. Marching, marching, marching, around and around, ceaselessly, endlessly caught in the loop. For days they went, totally ignoring the much-needed food just inches away. At last they began dropping off, one by one, as dead as hammers.

The moral, as it applies to the Pavidians? It should be plain.

Let him who has ears, hear.

Richard White · Oct 3, 2007

Welcome back, Cat!!!!

Hope you're doing better.

CatSlave · Oct 3, 2007

Thank you all. :heart:

JimmyD1318 · Oct 3, 2007

CatSlave said:
Thank you all.

Here you go Cat! Just like I promised...enjoy!

:popcorn:

Its from my secret stash!

JCT · Oct 3, 2007

AlienEnigma's forums are just like the PAMB, only open to the public. I tried there but I gave up. I don't know if I got banned, nor do I care. Really, Jeff, if you wanted a PA love fest, you should have kept it on the PAMB.

Wait, you have no control or power there!

Afinerosesheis · Oct 3, 2007

Cat, it is good to see you back. I have been thinking about you. =)

I have done everything except chucking the site from my bookmarks. Yes, I definitely need to do that. I don't hang with them, per se...lol, but I do have a few people over there I like. I can just e-mail them. Hardly anyone posts over there anymore and even though I'm a troublemaker, I doubt I have a lot to do with it. We have one who is never on the board to see things through, and another who deletes many posts and makes nasty remarkes toward members who have left. And I have POOR ME syndrome. lol

I don't care who is watching. This is the truth. People are so worried about my posts here, well trot back on over there and make it a better place for ALL writers. Your time would be much better spent than worrying over what I am doing.

Ok, on to Dr. Phil. Wasn't too exciting, was it? Three million dollars? My husband even perked up at those words and had a good laugh.

Jersey Chick · Oct 3, 2007

Yanno, I missed the dang show.

I had to pick my daughter up from school (can't WAIT until we're in the new house and she's on the school bus) and then I went to the grocery store.

What did I miss??? **sighs**

brianm · Oct 3, 2007

brianm said:
IMO, this is good advertising for PA and will net them another group of wannabe published authors, who will open up their wallets to feed PA's vanity scam press coffers.

IMO, that was a really dumb remark.

After watching that drivel, I doubt many people will even remember the name of the publisher.

And that poor little woman from PA... she had the deer in the headlights syndrome. Looks like they edited out what she said after she squeaked out "Publish America..."

That said, it does show the mental state of mind of many of PA’s new authors. They honestly think they will be making hordes of money from their books. This poor dear claimed her “publisher” said she could anticipate a three million dollar check two months after the book was schlepped out. :roll:

Perhaps the reason there is no talk about this show on the PAMB, is that some of its members really think she’s getting some kind of great deal from PA different from their $1.00 advance?

Afinerosesheis · Oct 3, 2007

This poor dear claimed her “publisher” said she could anticipate a three million dollar check two months after the book was schlepped out.

And if they did tell her that, where do they get off telling her such an outright falsehood? That is just mean, like beating to death a poor little kitten or something. Many people might really believe that crap. Apparantly she did or she wouldn't have mentioned it on the show. That makes my past belief of my books being in many bookstores look like nothing. If not from PA, then from where did she get the idea?
I also noticed nothing was said about it on the PAMB. A little odd?

A dollar is all she better count on.
Did they decide if it was going to be published? My daughter was going through her fund raiser stuff and I saw bits and pieces.

James D. Macdonald · Oct 3, 2007

Remember that Porn Guy expected his book would sell 50,000 copies within three months, and was expecting a nationwide laydown.

I do really wonder what PA is telling authors in phone conversations when no record exists.

Rolling Thunder · Oct 3, 2007

I sense the prospect of a new sting operation.

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