Last names as plurals and as posessives

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Here are my three characters' names:

David Brown
Carl Jenkins
Sarah Vincente

Here is how I am doing the plurals when describing whole family as a group:

The Brown's stood by the fence.
The Jenkins' stood by the fence.
The Vincente's stood by the fence.

Here is how I am doing posessives:

The Brown's car.
The Vincente's car.
The Jenkins' car.



Now ..... is any of this right???


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I think you're wrong on all counts.

The Browns stood by the fence.
The Jenkinses stood by the fence.
The Vincentes stood by the fence.

The Browns' car.
The Jenkins' car.
The Vincentes' car.

-Derek
 

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Mr Paterso gets a gold star :D

ETA: Someone is going to come along and argue that it should be the Jenkins's, btw
 

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No! Do not us s's. One of my main characters (ok, my husband) has a name that ends with s and I only put an apostophe. Not the extra s. I realize technically it can go both ways but I think it's cumbersome on the reader.
 

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Here is how I am doing the plurals when describing whole family as a group:

The Brown's stood by the fence.
The Jenkins' stood by the fence.
The Vincente's stood by the fence.

Here is how I am doing posessives:

The Brown's car.
The Vincente's car.
The Jenkins' car.



Now ..... is any of this right???
Like dpaterso said, No, none of it is right.

The Brown family and the Vincente family are quite straightforward.

Don't use an apostrophe to make a plural:
  • The Browns stood by the fence.
  • The Vincentes stood by the fence.
The possessive of a plural adds an apostrophe after the S:
  • The Browns' car.
  • The Vincentes' car.
The possessive of the singular adds an apostrophe and an S:
  • David Brown's car.
  • Sarah Vincente's car.
The Jenkins family is a little different. When a proper name (just like any noun) ends with [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]s, sh, ch, x, or z:[/FONT]

Plurals: Use es to form the plural
  • The Jenkinses stood by the fence.
Possessives: There are several schools of thought. Pick one and be consistent. Even if an editor disagrees with your choice, s/he will recognize it as one of the standard variations. (In other words, you won't look stupid.)

Plural Possessives:
  1. The Jenkins' car.
  2. The Jenkinses' car.
Singular Possessives:
  1. Carl Jenkins' car.
  2. Carl Jenkins's car.
  3. Bob Jones's truck, but Carl Jenkins' car. (some say it depends on the number of syllables--one vs more than one; others say it depends on how it's pronounced)
  4. Moses' beard, but James's hair (some say Moses, Jesus and a few other "ancient" names enjoy a special status; others say it's because the last syllable begins with s)
 

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You mean proper nouns are no longer considered invariable, requiring an apostrophe to make the plural?

Good! 'Bout time that rule died. It almost single-handedly contributed to the wide-spread confusion regarding plurals and possessives that shows up constantly even among writer's, er, writers.
 

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Engineers are known for misusing the apostrophe when writing plurals, but that's to avoid mistakes when listing/ordering components known by their singular names. Just thought I'd chuck that into the ol' confusion bucket. :)

-Derek
 

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Just because it hasn't been mentioned...
In general, you write it the way you'd say it.
Except for biblical names, which still take just an apostrophe to indicate possession. ("Les's followers betrayed him." But "Moses' followers betrayed him.")
 
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