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[Agency] Objective Entertainment
Anyone have any experience with Objective Entertainment? Maybe it's me, but it seems like I've noticed them popping up on AgentQuery.com all of a sudden. Are they a new agency? Their website looks like they're in the process of building it and their agents seem to have been with legit agencies in the past.
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Muppet Girl
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Hi There,
I just got an agent request to see a partial of my fantasy novel. I'll let you know how it goes. From what I've seen, yes, they're a new agency, but I think it's being built up by people who've been around in the entertainment field, so I think it might get good deals quickly. We'll see! |
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Cool, thanks...best of luck to you!
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I found this at http://www.vistacomp.com/pub_moves/p...es_2007_1.html :
Objective Entertainment Former Literary Group agent Ian Kleinert will lead a new management and production company, Objective Entertainment, formed by Mudd Jeans founder Marty Weisfeld and veteran music manager and television producer Jarred Weisfeld. which the website said was gotten Publisher's Marketplace. Ian Kleinert was an agent at The Literary Group (which is legit). Jarred Weisfeld apparently has produced, directed, and written a bunch of movies (although I've never heard of any of them: Pranksta is one of them, if that rings a bell with anyone). Not sure where the Mudd Jeans guy comes in (unless he's a brother or cousin of Jarred Weisfeld). Sounds legit to me. ~Nancy
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Objective Entertainment - Yvonne Woon
She requested my partial. Has anyone ever heard of her?
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Oops! They weren't listed in the directory, but when I did a google search I found a post of them already on the website.
Sorry about that!
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The aforementioned protosite: http://www.objectiveent.com/
Also, Brendan Deneen joined mid-year, and recently signed Fred Wieche.
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For those of you with the partial requests from Yvonne Woon, have you heard anything yet?
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I looked into this, got an offer, a contract that looked pretty standard until
"Reimbursements for Expenses: You agree to reimburse us for the resonable expenses in connection with the disposition of any rights to the Work and any worsk derived therefrom, such as copying the manuscript, retyping the manuscript, postage, messengers or express delivery. All extraordinary expenses shall be subject to your consent. At our discretion, you shall reiumburse us in cash or we may deduct such expenses from your advances or other earnings from any work hereunder." Sounds like a scam to me. Agree? |
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Actually I beg to differ. There are many agents who make such stipulations who are legit. I know my agency did (and don't worry, they are a top agency and very well respected), yet at the same time I don't think they have actually ever charged me for anything. I can't say if this agency is a scam or is not, I have done no research on the subject, but this isn't necessarily a red flag.
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Sounds like a perfectly standard agency clause |
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If they don't sell it, but they claim to have made a hundred copies/reprints, whatever-- I pay them. That's what I understand from it. That sounds like an easy way of making money off authors. Last edited by heatercat; 12-28-2007 at 02:53 AM. |
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I've heard of this as well. Some legit agents do this, absolutely.
When they take their commission from the advance on the sale of your book, they also take the fees. they run you a tab until then.
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SFWA's Model Agent-Author Contract --http://www.sfwa.org/contracts/agents_cont.htm--
addresses this in section five. It is normal for some agencies to list expenses for which they should be reimbursed. The direct section and comments of the SFWA are listed below: Quote:
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I've never heard of this happening with a legitimate agency (charging these expenses for a MS they couldn't sell). I know that my last agents took the copying $$ out of the advance, and it was something around $100. It's not a big deal to me, but if it's something you don't want to deal with, renegotiate it. It's certainly not a sign that these folks are scammers. Last edited by IceCreamEmpress; 12-28-2007 at 03:08 AM. Reason: Added more stuff. |
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And with more and more houses being open to email submissions, I forsee this becoming less of an issue. Hope so anyway.
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It's only a red flag if they want the money up front before anything's been copied, mailed, or otherwise handled that requires a fee. Otherwise, when it's paid from the commission or upon termination of your contract with them, it's normal.
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My agent had a clause like this in his contract, but never actually charged me these items even after the advance came in. He told me he keeps it in there just in case a client does something that really gets his goat.
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Got me a requested partial over at Objective Entertainment too. How long will it take to be reviewed, do you think? I'm beginning to panic as it's been over a month now since I sent it over. Maybe they were so unimpressed by it that they just tossed it in the trash along with a half-eaten tuna sandwich and pickle slice.
ps Y'all sound very nice.
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New kid, be gentle!
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Thanks everyone for the replies. They've been reassuring.
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Thanks for the insight Gerry. You've put my mind at ease. Good luck with your own ms, though from the sound of things it sounds like you are in the drivers seat with a tank full of gas.
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Enough with the self-doubt. If they asked for it, I'm sure it's what they're looking for. I'm sure it's great. But if you want to laugh, you probably sent it during the holiday's Thanksgiving maybe, so it may be in with the Turkey, stuffing and cranberry sauce. Please let us know as soon as you hear from them. I'm praying for you!!!!
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Turkey and Stuffing are scrumptious enough to eat by the pound! Cranberry Sauce is an entirely different matter, though. That stuff is just plain nasty. What really gets my goat is that it's made up to look and bobble about like Cherry Jello which is delish.
...and so is Honey from out of the Comb! (Meaning to say your kind words and pledged prayers have made me very, very .) Will keep you posted about my ms's fate. ps Cool avatar. Must get myself one ... of a raccoon, maybe? |
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