Why Harry Potter??

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Why is Harry Potter so popular? I just don't understand!! I am not at all knocking Harry Potter or J.K. Rowling, God bless her. But I can't BELIEVE how popular her books are. I liked the first two movies, but couldn't get past the first book. For me it was boring, and emotionless. But that's my humble opinon.

Harry Potter seems to be the most popular series I've ever heard of and I can't figure out why!! LOL> :)
 

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I held out for years before reading one. On a whim, I bought the first one two months ago in a used bookstore.

Loved it. Saw immediately why it had caught on like it has. It's the same as hundreds of other fantasy books I've read. But it's also different.

This is why, in my opinion, it's become such a raging success. Same, but different. Same hero-who-doesn't-want-the-mantle formula, same type of nerdish, ostracized main character, same outsider-against-the-odds theme, same mix of magic and lore and mythology that you see in tons of other fantasy series.

But there's something fiercely unique about it. I finished it feeling as if I'd never really read anything quite like it.

That said, I haven't read past book one. I would rather read books for adults.
 

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I liked the first two movies, but couldn't get past the first book. For me it was boring, and emotionless. But that's my humble opinon.
You are aware it was aimed at 10-12 year olds?

If there was anyone who really understood how a cultural phenomenon develops and what the elements of one are, they'd be richer than J.K.
 

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You could say that about almost every popular thing out there. Why Pokemon? Why Dora the Explorer? Why Harry Potter ? Why? Why? Why?

Who knows? Some things work, some don't.

I don't know what about Harry Potter is different but like Will said, it's just different. :shrug: I don't think there is an explanation.
 

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I started book one a few times before I got into it. Like you, I found it boring and a bit slow. When the buzz became more fierce, I decided to push through and read it no matter what. After first few chapters, I finally got why people (especially kids) loved it. No, the writing isn't amazing, but the story is so fun and engaging. I'm a former English teacher and I think HP is phenomenal because it got kids reading again, especially boys who've tended to be reluctant readers.
 

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You could say that about almost every popular thing out there. Why Pokemon? Why Dora the Explorer? Why Harry Potter ? Why? Why? Why?

Who knows? Some things work, some don't.

I don't know what about Harry Potter is different but like Will said, it's just different. :shrug: I don't think there is an explanation.

Along these lines, I'm reading Malcolm Gladwell's The Tipping Point, which explores why certain things catch on--or "tip" in Gladwell's language--in our culture. Fascinating book.
 

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That said, I haven't read past book one. I would rather read books for adults.

The first one, and to a lesser extent, the second one, are the only ones that read like children's literature. After that, the writing sounds just like any adult-oriented fantasy.

If anyone truly understood the why of it, they'd be able to figure out how to take advantage of it. No one really knows. I've read many books that are better written, though these are great books. But I haven't read many that have sucked me in quite so thoroughly. I don't sit around discussing character motivations, meanings, or plot points and questions for other series (except Buffy; I can talk Buffy all day long); but I've been involved in very long threads on HP.
 

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I held out for years before reading one. On a whim, I bought the first one two months ago in a used bookstore.

Loved it. Saw immediately why it had caught on like it has. It's the same as hundreds of other fantasy books I've read. But it's also different.

This is why, in my opinion, it's become such a raging success. Same, but different. Same hero-who-doesn't-want-the-mantle formula, same type of nerdish, ostracized main character, same outsider-against-the-odds theme, same mix of magic and lore and mythology that you see in tons of other fantasy series.

But there's something fiercely unique about it. I finished it feeling as if I'd never really read anything quite like it.

That said, I haven't read past book one. I would rather read books for adults.

Good point. I don't know, I guess to each his own. Perhaps I should try to get through the first five chapters this time and keep going. But there was something else about HP that stopped me, it just felt emotionless, without meaning. I guess I'm too much into Tolkien. Well what the heck, I do like Eragon lol, and I know many writers who hate that book. Yet I thought it was great. I also like alot of physical fighting, magic battle. Perhaps this comes from my love of animation, DBZ hehe.

Sorry, I went off on a whimm :)
 

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I just think she was at the right place at the right time with the right product.

I don't know if 50 years from now people will be looking that same way at HP like they do LOTRs, but no matter what I give her kudos for what she's done in the here and now.
 
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I can't answer for anyone else, but for me, her writing takes me back in time to when I was a child, when I would open a book and be lost in a world of make belief. I wouldn't be aware of anything going on around me. Since I've been an adult, not too many books have done that for me. I still love to read but a lot of times every day worries creep into my mind while I'm reading. The Harry Potter books don't allow that to happen. I'm too involved in the story.
 

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Antonio Salieri was more popular than Mozart in his time, regarded as one of the best Opera Composers.

Unfortunately however, no one really listens to his music anymore, yet there isn't a child in the western world who doesn't know at least one Mozart piece (ABCs for example).


Perhaps the root of the Potter craze is the serialization of it. The books are subject to anticipation, simply because one has no idea how it will end. Whereas once someone has finished the book, if they are pleased, and it ends happily ever after, the characters still die when you finish. If it ends sadly, the characters die as well.

The mark of a true piece of art is its ability to stay alive over time. Though some books are very popular in contemporary markets, they perhaps will never be picked up after the death of the author, or the hype disappears. I sincerely doubt that people will be reading Grisham or Brown in the future. That being said, those writers still win in the end, their bank accounts prove that, but perhaps they win money, whereas the real novelist wins recognition over time.
 

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Along these lines, I'm reading Malcolm Gladwell's The Tipping Point, which explores why certain things catch on--or "tip" in Gladwell's language--in our culture. Fascinating book.

Definitely fascinating. I read it a few months ago and will probably reread it in a few more months...and following Gladwell's logic, most likely, a highly influential group of people latched on to HP early on, and through a complicated network of experts (he called them mavens) and connectors (people who know everyone), it spread. And like JBI said, I think the serialization, the anticipation, has a lot to do with it.

I doubt JK Rowling wrote HP intending the cutural phenomenon of today. I thinks she wrote the best story she could and got lucky as hell. Because there are similar books, just as fun, better written, that have stuck around but have no name recognition anywhere close to HP.
 
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"Boring" ...

Not going to touch this with a ten-foot poker.
 

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Funny that this thread should come up now, because I just bought the first HP book today. (Yeah, I know, I'm a little late for the party, lol) I never read any before because I have zero interest in YA. I finally decided a few weeks ago that I should probably at least take a look at it, since it's the best selling fantasy of modern times and I write fantasy (not YA, but still). I mean, SOMETHING in those books is appealing to a huge number of people, many of whom are adults.

Today I picked up a copy of the first book at a yard sale for fifty cents (hey, it's YA, I'm not paying $8 for something I've never in my life enjoyed reading). Now I see this thread and just noticed the book somehow got tossed on my bed. Starting to feel like there's a conspiracy to make me read this thing. :D

I guess I'll have an actual opinion on this topic tomorrow.
 

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This Harry Potter thing is just amazing. I haven't read any of the books, haven't seen any of the movies. Now I hear there's going to be a Harry Potter amusement park in Florida!!

Some commentators on the news today said that the Harry Potter series and JK Rowling will go down in history - kind of like some of the classic tales .....

Meanwhile, Taylor Hicks has recently released his book, "Heart Full of Soul."
 

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I read the first two books. Which is a rule I like to follow, reading at least two books of hugely successful writers. I have a few opinions as to why HP is so dang successful, in tidy, if boring, bullet points:

-it takes place in a school, what kid can't relate to that? The endless efforts to fit in, the oddness of the whole thing.

-the pace moves along at quite a pace. She never gets bogged down on details. She seems to be a firm believer that a book is a joint effort, between her and reader. A few salient details, ok, done, keep moving the plot. I was flabbergasted when I read how short her description of Hogwart's was.

-the characters are the sorts of people that every kid knows about. The bully, the entitled rich kid, the smarty pants, the odd bloke who tries his best.

-magic. Magic is dang cool.

-no reinventing the wheel. She has wizards, she has witches, people fly on brooms. Many of the elements she uses are well worn and familiar. Adds to the quick uptake of the world.

At least, that's my 2 cents. I quite enjoyed the books, I think she's a great writer. Well, not Great, but you know, great.
 

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I also only read the first two, and agree with the other posters.

But here's my extra two cents:

The first one was a LOT more whimsical and fun than most of the rest of the series, which I think is what hooked a lot of readers. But I think it was the overall concept that did it: the outcast-kid with horrible foster parents who suddenly gets invited to attend a wizard boarding school. So, the MC now gets to attend the boarding school of everyone's dreams, set in a far-off mystical land and populated with a menagerie of unusual characters with unusual names. While he's there he meets cool new friends and gets to work magic with a magic wand, fly a broomstick, and see all kinds of crazy neat things at a totally cool castle called Hogwarts.

Who wouldn't want to experience that? Kids and adults alike.

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This Harry Potter thing is just amazing. I haven't read any of the books, haven't seen any of the movies. Now I hear there's going to be a Harry Potter amusement park in Florida!!

Some commentators on the news today said that the Harry Potter series and JK Rowling will go down in history - kind of like some of the classic tales .....

Meanwhile, Taylor Hicks has recently released his book, "Heart Full of Soul."

Wow, I am just blown away by this. It's so strang how HP is just so dam popular, stranger than anything I've ever heard of. I guess I'll have to try and get through the first one again.
 

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I personally found that the books got better and better. I've only read up to book four of the series but it was a lot better than the previous books. If you are struggling with the first then I'd suggest skimming it and getting on with the next ones in the series.
 

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I respect J.K. Rowling for her work, wow, what a dream come true. God bless her. But as I thought more and more about it I think the reason why I can't get into it is because it feels empty. Anotherwords, there's no spiritual essense involving Good, or God you might say. Or even an essense called the "Light" or something. Or is there? From what I got there wasn't. And that's perfectly fine, to each his own, but I fall in love with things like LOTR, CS.Lewis' works, and Madeline Howard's "The Hidden Stars" where the wizards pray and a force known as "The Fates" govern the world, and there is a sidde called "The Light." I guess it just feels more alive with passion or rightousness. At least for me.

I know others will disagree and that's fine, so please no one attack me. I just gave my opinon. :)
 

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That said, I haven't read past book one. I would rather read books for adults.

You took the words right out of my mouth, there.

In the run-up to the release of The Deathly Hallows (today, as it happens!) I tried to get back into the series. Four years ago I read all the way up to about half way through Goblet of Fire. I wasn't bored, but I found myself getting distracted by other things. Chiefly, exams. I didn't pick it back up again.

Reading The Philosopher's ("Sorcerer" in the States) Stone is proving quite a challenge for me at 20. Not because its concepts are too deep and its prose is too flowery, but because it's exactly the opposite.

Personally, I HATE flowery prose. For me, an author should tell me where I am, who is there, and what is going on right off the bat. Not necessarily in the first sentence or even paragraph, but I need to be grounded firmly in the book's universe. Rowling wastes no time and gets right to the point. No problem there. Her writing is both articulate and light at the same time. For me, it works. No qualms with the writing at all.

The concepts, whilst derived from a number of sources, are drawn together in an original and interesting way. As someone stated earlier in the thread, she tells the same story as always, but presents it in a way that is wholly fresh and unique to her universe. Each book begins by placing its key players in a difficult situation (someone is trying to steal what lies under the guarded trapdoor, a creature is prowling the school's corridors and petrifying the students, or a high security Prisoner is on the run and he's hunting Harry down); this situation is then explored during the mid-section of the book, and is always resolved by its conclusion. Beginning, Middle, and End. The classic structure. It allows each book to stand on its own two feet, but in the context of a greater continuity (a structure of seven individual parts). Her structuring is fantastic, and any loose ends she leaves at the end of each book are fairly minor on the list of concerns as the reader's primary focus has been the individual story arc of that specific installment.

However, the first two books were written primarily for children. They read like they were written for children. Rowling skips over a number of things that she could have explored in greater detail. Not necessarily by stringing together a number of circumlocutions ripped straight out of the theasaurus. Just little indications of how certain things affect certain characters. Hermione talking to herself in the toilet before the troll attacks would have been welcome, but its absence doesn't hinder the story. I don't blame Rowling at all, as she sticks with the central story and very rarely deviates from it. It remains focused, and manages to keep on the rails. But, as a matter of personal taste (and possibly testament to my maturity as a reader) I prefer a little more depth to add that extra dimension and perspective.

I saw Order of The Phoenix a week ago, and it has inspired me to plough through the early books just so I can get to the nitty gritty. What really appealed to me with the film was the focus on the politics of the Wizard World, and how key figures are always trying to upstage one another in the pursuit of greater authority. But, as is the case in our own reality, they each have their own methods of achieving their goals.

I apologise for ranting on a bit there. When I get the ball rolling I really can't help myself.
 
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One thing I think that really drove it to the forefront in the US(at least here in the middle of the country)is the way it was handled. Around here, schools were banning it, libraries were refusing to carry it and every other church was preaching against it. All because it has witch craft in it. A million other books have too, but this was really the first aimed at children and you would have thought that J.K. Rowling was the anti-christ come to snatch children in the night. Well as Rowling herself pointed out in one of her later books, the quickest way to make somthing popular among kids and to make sure they read it, is for adults to tell them that they can't.

So because parents,teachers and religious leaders were in such a snit about it, the kids got the books and read them. I knew a lady at work who let her kids' friends hide their HP books at her house so parents wouldn't know the kids had them.

Once the kids opened the book, they found a young boy (right about most of the young readers ages) who suffered alot of the same problems that they too faced in school. But unlike themselves, Harry got to leave and go to a cool school and learn magic. Yes he had problems there too, but he also had a great adventure, made loyal friends, and got to fly through the air on a broom stick in a cool sport where he got to be the one who won the game.

As those same first readers of the book grew and matured, the books did too. So that as the readers began dealing with becoming teenagers and dealing with the hormones that came with it, so did Harry and his friends. The books became more detailed and darker and Harry's adventures started to be more complicated.

I never paid much attention to it, until all of the uproar about it. When I did read it, I liked it. But then I tend to enjoy just about any fantasy book that has pages and words.
 
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