Poetry Forum Workshops

poetinahat · Jun 13, 2007

The lovely, the talented p.h.delarran came up with this great idea: workshops on different types of poetry. Maybe as a "form of the month" thing, as someone suggested in the Wish List thread.

What do you think: anyone interested in being in, or even leading, a workshop on different types of poetry?

They could involve either reading or writing.

If so, what would you like to do -- and would you lead it? (ETA: Leading doesn't mean you have to be an expert in the subject; you'd just have to be interested.)

Some possible topics:

- Sonnets
- Sestinas
- The poetry of ... (name your poet)
- Beat poetry

What do you say?

BBShopMom · Jun 14, 2007

Sounds interesting. I in no way, shape or form could lead one but would love to learn all I can.

A. Hamilton · Jun 14, 2007

Thank you, Rob!
Even if no one steps up to lead a form workshop, a Form of the Month, or Week even, would still be doable. We could post work we find, famous or not, that represents the form, and challenge each other to write to it as well. Etc.
I'm tired and can't think this through much further right now, but I wanted to bump this.
Anyway, I think it would be a great learning experience.

ddgryphon · Jun 14, 2007

Agreed. It is a capital idea.

Norman D Gutter · Jun 15, 2007

A good idea.

I would only say that, while enough recognized forms exist to keep this going a long time (if done monthly), most of these forms are terribly uncommon. What about mixing with this the study of various poetical devices? Meter, rhythym, line break, enjambment, assonance, consonnance, irony, tension, personnification etc., etc. gives another long list of topics.

NDG

Annie O · Jun 15, 2007

Great idea.

JAlpha · Jun 15, 2007

If there is is any interest in the haibun form, I'll conduct the workshop :Lecture:

Here are a couple of links to my haibun poems that were published by Flashquake http://flashquake.org/archive/vol4iss2/nonfiction/breakaway.html and Literary Mama http://www.literarymama.com/poetry/archives/000375.html

I have three more haibun poems forthcoming in the next issue of The Kennesaw Review and about a dozen more out for submission.

Additonal on-line samples of habun poetry can be viewed here http://poetrylives.com/CHO/

I love the haibun form, because it allows me to combine my interest in haiku, prose poetry and sudden fiction.

A. Hamilton · Jun 16, 2007

JAlpha said:
If there is is any interest in the haibun form, I'll conduct the workshop

Here are a couple of links to my haibun poems that were published by Flashquake http://flashquake.org/archive/vol4iss2/nonfiction/breakaway.html and Literary Mama http://www.literarymama.com/poetry/archives/000375.html

I have three more haibun poems forthcoming in the next issue of The Kennesaw Review and about a dozen more out for submission.

Additonal on-line samples of habun poetry can be viewed here http://poetrylives.com/CHO/

I love the haibun form, because it allows me to combine my interest in haiku, prose poetry and sudden fiction.

Ohhh.. a volunteer?!!
Yes, I know I would participate.

A. Hamilton · Jun 16, 2007

Norman D Gutter said:
A good idea.

I would only say that, while enough recognized forms exist to keep this going a long time (if done monthly), most of these forms are terribly uncommon. What about mixing with this the study of various poetical devices? Meter, rhythym, line break, enjambment, assonance, consonnance, irony, tension, personnification etc., etc. gives another long list of topics.

NDG

See, now this is what I was hoping for. There is so much I don't know, (and others too?) and so many who do - why not share the wealth?

poetinahat · Jun 16, 2007

NOW we're cookin'.

Norman, your idea is superb. I think that, if we rev this up, it could make a huge difference here.

Janet, you've got two names on the sign-up sheet already. Does that make a quorum?

I've heard from someone else (won't steal his thunder) who's offered to do a workshop on a form of poetry about which I know nothing at all.

I'm excited about this!

JAlpha · Jun 16, 2007

poetinahat said:
NOW we're cookin'.

Janet, you've got two names on the sign-up sheet already. Does that make a quorum?

enough of a quorum for me to start gathering materials and creating a workshop syllabus.

Long term, I'd also be willing to head up a concrete poetry and a found poetry workshop, but will wisely leave the workshop leadership of the rhymed and metered forms for the poets with an interest and strength in more formal poem structures.

BBShopMom · Jun 16, 2007

Very cool!! :hooray:

poetinahat · Jun 20, 2007

I've got a prospectus for one course -- very thorough, I might add. Look for it very soon!

Hey -- brainwave -- What about a CRITIQUING workshop?

I had no experience in critting when I got here; I just started offering my opinions, figuring I'd learn along the way. But some discussion of critting might help. Would anybody be interested?

Pat~ · Jun 20, 2007

I like this workshop idea! If you're like me, it helps to see an example of a form while learning it, and a workshop will help motivate and inspire me to try new forms.

(Never heard of a halibun, so I'm attending that one!)

KTC · Jun 20, 2007

I missed this thread. What about a FREEFALL workshop. Anything goes...leave the parachute in the plane poetry?

I think the idea of different workshops is a great one. Kudos for dreaming it up. I look forward to the result.

poetinahat · Jun 21, 2007

Kevin, that'd be GREAT. You being a master of this form, would you be keen to be involved?

poetinahat · Jun 21, 2007

FIRST WORKSHOP!

The redoubtable Writer??? has gone to great lengths to set up a workshop, coming very soon to the Poetry Discussion forum.

He'll be addressing the Redondilla, a form we haven't addressed hitherto.

~~Watch for it -- it'll be here very, very soon.~~

ETA: It's here!

Writer??? · Jun 21, 2007

OK, it's posted and ready to go.

Per our discussions, I guess just stickie it Rob.

Welcome to all willing to take part. I know a lot of people are not fond of form and rhyme these days, but I think we can have some fun and learn a bit while we're at it.

Thanks

A. Hamilton · Jun 21, 2007

Writer??? said:
OK, it's posted and ready to go.

Per our discussions, I guess just stickie it Rob.

Welcome to all willing to take part. I know a lot of people are not fond of form and rhyme these days, but I think we can have some fun and learn a bit while we're at it.

Thanks

Thank you for taking this on!
Personally, I think the more I know, the better equipped I am to write the way that suits me best.

Deleted member 42 · Jun 21, 2007

I don't know that this would interest y'all at all . .. I'd be willing to do something on reading poetry, close reading, or literary/rhetorical figures, or sonnets or I dunno ... pretty much anything y'all might like in terms of poetry before say 1900.

Yes, yes I do like the old stuff . . .

A. Hamilton · Jun 21, 2007

All of the above?

I'm a glutton.
Definitely sonnets.
And reading..I don't even know what close reading is.
Yeah, all of the above.
OK, you pick.

KTC · Jun 22, 2007

poetinahat said:
Kevin, that'd be GREAT. You being a master of this form, would you be keen to be involved?

Sure. Let me give it a thinking.

I would have answered sooner, but seems I lost my cookies and I didn't notice! I thought the poetry forum was just slow. Turns out it was cut off. Oops.

Kevin, who is a bit slow on the uptake.

Deleted member 42 · Jun 22, 2007

P.H.Delarran said:
All of the above?

I'm a glutton.
Definitely sonnets.
And reading..I don't even know what close reading is.
Yeah, all of the above.
OK, you pick.

Keep in mind I can't write my way out of a paper bag -- but I read goodly

Close reading is a term from critical theory/ literary criticism. For snob value, call it explication de texte.

It means to read a small passage(s) of text very very carefully and closely, to consider the implications of the words, the connotations and denotations, and the way the words and the syntax and the literary devices all work together to create the text.

It doesn't mean that there is only one viable reading, but it does mean that you look very very closely at words. Here are some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_reading

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~wricntr/documents/CloseReading.html

Most readers do this without realizing they are doing this.

A. Hamilton · Jun 24, 2007

Interesting, thanks Lisa.

poetinahat · Jun 26, 2007

Okay, I posted a list of the workshops: what's coming up, and other ideas waiting to happen.

The Redondilla workshop is under way, and Writer??? has done an excellent job getting it going.

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