Stereotypes in novels

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Adagio

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I've been thinking for some time of how stereotypes (I avoid cliche as too cliche;) ) are used in novels. Characters or settings. For ex.:

a redneck truck driver

middle-age women

a librarian vs. a sexy chick

a sulky, uncommunicative teenager (aren't there nice teenagers anymore? Sorry for "nice!")

a depressed, aging detective

the alpha male in romance (and gals blessed with miles-long legs); all men are tall (I'm faulty of this). The ideal male figure? No baldness? No reading glasses? Mine wears glasses, but that's as far as I went outside the picture of a male character. Am I afraid that a shorter guy would not please the reader (female reader?)

a sleepy small town

The list goes on and on. You could add other examples. How to avoid stereotypes? How to add a twist, make the characters different, more interesting and special, outside their little drawers in which they are supposed to fit? It's so easy to fall into the trap. On the other hand, all those types of personalities do exist in real life, as well as sleepy small towns. I was thinking, for instance, how nice to find a book of poetry on the dashboard of a truck. It all depends of the creativity of the writer. Yet, I found that many authors chose the easy way, slamming a character (or setting) that fills the cliche.

Your thoughts are welcome.
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I myself am guilty of writing stereotypes, but I also (at times) try to break them down.

In a short piece I'm working on for an application, I'm writing a stereotype of an extremely conservative Protestant father. However, this stereotype is intentional. The MC even makes reference to him seeming unrealistic.
 

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In the case of the alpha male in the romance, isn't that what the market demands?

I think stereotypes are fun to play around with, as long as you're conscious of it and not being lazy.
 

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As long as the characters come across as real, as interesting, and as three-dimensional, who cares if they fit into classes-of-the-average. Sometimes writers work too hard to make their characters "quirky" and unusual, and it shows.

On the other hand, a well-done "quirky" and unusual character can be a delight to a reader.
 

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I think that a stereotype done well is an archetype or an everyman. There are 'types' within our human diversity.

That said, playing against type can be interesting. I recently came acorss an erotic story in which the protag had a smaller than avergae 'endowment'. It was a good story and reminded me that you don't have to keep doing the 'usual' thing in writing characters.
 

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I don't think there's anything wrong with alpha males at all. It's hard for a girl to respect someone who kisses her a$$.
 

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Adagio said:
the alpha male in romance (and gals blessed with miles-long legs); all men are tall (I'm faulty of this). The ideal male figure? No baldness? No reading glasses? Mine wears glasses, but that's as far as I went outside the picture of a male character. Am I afraid that a shorter guy would not please the reader (female reader?)

OMG, that's me....how'd you know. ;) Except for the ideal male figure, reading glasses, and being tall part. Otherwise, I'm it.

As for sterotypes. Like you said, sometimes you can't help but write characters or places that are sterotypical. IMO. Specially if you draw from real world events/places/people. To me, the thing that makes them differ from cliche garbage, is the detail put into them to make them stand out from the other cliche garbage.

I agree with the others who mentioned that the quirks can make setting or characters fun and different even if they are based off cliches.
 

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My MC at the moment is basically a sterotype of a 1930s-40s doctor, but the story is set in modern times.

As far as the sleep town thing goes, that would be a horrible pun in the case of my current novel -- the town is literally asleep. about 70% of the population contracts a disease that knocks them all out for a couple weeks, during which they experience the same shared dream.
 

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Hmmm...stereotypes...

The reluctant hero

The kid who somehow helps hero in times of need

The shady helper

The hot warrior chick

The mentor

The guy who thinks everything is stupid

The silver-haired guy who angsts about life

The perfect kind of girl ( cute, pretty, sweet, beats up guys she likes, etc.)

The tomboy who wears skirts ( weird, I know)

The cross-dressing girl

The sarcastic guy

The guy who likes the word 'beautiful'

The ditzy girl who somehow defeats the evil overlord

The brash hot-headed hunk

....and the list continues. I usually do a crossover of stereotypes, the bloodlusting crossdresser anyone?
 

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lfraser said:
How did middle-aged women get on the list? :D

I finished a book the other day. Guess how the above said ladies appeared as background for the MC -- the miles-long legs girl (it's nothing wrong with long legs, or with the alpha male, don't get me wrong, but don't get me started on characters-caricatures). As veinglory mentioned, archetype or the everyman character is fine. Not the caricatures imho. I heard of editors rejecting ms. because of cliches.
 

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Okay, you're right. If I have to read one more book about a grey-haired, menopausal heroine with saddlebags around her thighs instead of slung over her trusty steed, I'm gonna scream.
 

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maestrowork said:
What's wrong with middle-aged women? I see them all the time. :)

Some of them are known to read, too. A lot.
 

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Right. I mean, if I have to be a stereotype, could I not be a sort of Amazon-like goddess?

Phooey. Middle aged and a cliche. Double-whammy.
 
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When you say middle-aged, do you mean 'the mentor' types? Because from what I've read so far, they're mostly old men...
 

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After reading all the stereotypical examples given above; my new non stereotypical MC is going to be a blind dog with no tail. I mean whats left.
 

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Don't give up, there's still more original people left. ^_^ The princess who acts all lesbian-y, anyone?
 

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KiraOnWhite said:
When you say middle-aged, do you mean 'the mentor' types? Because from what I've read so far, they're mostly old men...
Yay, I beat a stereotype, the mentor character in my story is an all powerful manic slightly feminine teenage male. Weird huh?
 

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Stereotypes:

Two protagonists who start the novel by disliking each other, over time they come to respect each other or in some cases fall in love. Book ends. (It would be good to do this in reverse for a change).

Rags to riches character. Starts off poor, has adventures, becomes rich. Happy ending.

Villain who always gets come uppance. (Would be better if they got away with it.)


^ All taken from successful novels.
 
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Most favorably reviewed middle reader and young adult books seem to include at least one abusive male relative, usually the father.

Loving, caring fathers are much rarer in books than they are in real life.
 

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ShapeSphere said:
Stereotypes:

Two protagonists who start the novel by disliking each other, over time they come to respect each other or in some cases fall in love. Book ends. (It would be good to do this in reverse for a change).
War of the Roses?
 
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