Do you use a 'pen name'?

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Hi everyone.

I wanted to ask about the issue of pen names. Is using a pen name the norm, or do you feel that using your real name is the right way to go.

I do have a pen name in mind. But perhaps there are other things to consider, such as, whether it's necessary to trademark a pen name or not. That's just one example.

Another question would be, if I'm sending a query letter to an agent as a new author, should I mention that the book was written using a pen name (such as on the title sheet), or just start to conduct communication using that pen name, etc.

In that case, what if the agent likes the book but not the pen name?

I know, lot's of questions. :)
 
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The only reasons I could see for using a pen name are:

a. you're on the run from the mob
b. your parents named you Candy Cane, and you write crime dramas
c. if you authored a book titled "Man-Monkey Love"--while working as a monkey handler in a zoo
d. you are a successful porn star trying to break into the children's market

Sorry, I'm a dumb*ss with no usable knowledge. ;) Hope you get some real answers.
 

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I use a pen name for many reasons (only partly mob related....)
I have a long , crazy Italian last name which is does not slide off the tounge "properly" and that most cannot pronounce..... ALSO , Its nice to be anonymous for lots of reasons , I prefer it that way , but most do not .
As far as copywriting a pen name , I dont belive it to be nessasary , nor really matter (possibly if you are a #1 best seller or something)
DEFINTLY let your agent , editor , publisher know that you are using a pen name or the checks might be hard to cash lol (actually direct deposit is now the norm so you never know)
 

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Fanatic's list is good. :) If you do decide to use a pen name (I don't, even though I write in almost every genre), your real name will go on the top left corner of the first page (with address, etc) then just under the title of the work, your byline would be your pen name, not your real name.
 

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Very good information!

I am leaning towards a pen name, with hesitation. My real name has, well, sentimental value. After all, it's me. And my first name is somewhat unique -- at least a common name that is spelled differently, and hard to forget.

And it's not that I don't think my own name wouldn't work, either.

Anonymity does have it's appeal, especially if my work takes off (which I will be working very hard towards that goal). In other words, I'm not looking for mainly hometown notoriety.

I'm sort of interested in talking about my pen name ideas with someone without mentioning them publicly though. Eventually I'd like to get honest feedback from a number of people, mainly writers. I think probably very few non-writers would truly appreciate the value of a pen-name, nor would be qualified to give feedback of a pen-name for its appropriateness to a specific genre.

I admit though, I'm torn on the issue. I like my own name and think it would work. Googling me though currently tells of former positions I've had and previous occupations / community involvements. Nothing bad, it's just that when I'm ready to start promoting, I want to be seen as 'author', and not 'former manager of xyz company'. It would be like googling John Grisham if there were residual web pages that haven't been maintained in years, appearing in the search results, that still list him as "ABC Dealership's top car salesman" (a hypothetical example)

That's why something as simple as using a pen name is something of a conundrum to me. Sentiment vs. Anonimity, and both seem marketable -- at least from my perspective.
 

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Lots of writers use pen names. Stephen King was Richard Bach and Dean Koontz is on his 10th pen name I hear.

One main reason is: If you are contracted under a house under your name and the sales are not as high as they had hoped, your next book to be published will equal to the amount of sales you had on your first book. Therefore, your advance will also reflect this. If sales are still down, your in trouble.

Now, if you write another book under a pen name, you are not under contract with that house and can go to another house and start with a clean slate. It's been done many, many times.
 

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::shrug:: as of now, I like the thrill of seeing my name in print. :)
 

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Actually, from what I understand there is another author named Richard Bach, different from Steven King, whose pseudonymn is Richard Bachman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Bachman , but I understand the point made which is very valuable. I guess that drives home to me what I need to do. I suppose it's good to think ahead before jumping in.

::shrug:: as of now, I like the thrill of seeing my name in print. :)

I bet that is exciting! I wish you all the best.

We all have different circumstances. Perhaps I'm too analytical about the situation. I just want to make sure I'm taking the right steps, in new territory. When this book is finished, it will be my first literary submission.
 

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A writer may also choose to use a pen name if he/she writes in different genres. I use a pen name for that reason.

I write tech business articles under my own name. If you googled that name, you'd also see past positions and articles that are completely unrelated to what i'm about right now. That bothers me a bit, because I would like some consistency ( in subject matter)to be associated with my name.

That is why I now publish all non-fiction that is not related to the tech business stuff under a pen name.

I also write children's fiction using my real name, and it does not interfere in any way in my tech business writing. For the most part, those readers see the fiction writing as an indication that I'm a balanced individual. And they may have kids....
 

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I write under a pen name in order to keep my day job seperate from my fiction writing. It isn't unusual at all. Just query under your regular name and don't worry about it. When you get a request for a partial or a full, on your cover page simply drop down under your name and put "writing as XXX YYY". Don't worry about copyright for the name or anything else at this point.
 

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Hi kids. I moved this thread as it's really not about 'goals and accomplishments.'
 

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I have to admit I like your confidence, Horizon. It doesn't seem misplaced and has a texture I can almost feel on my skin.

I wonder if anyone ever started out with a pen name and then regretted it later; or started out with their real name and wished they hadn't.

If I were to use a pen name, it would have to be Montblanc.
 

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I use several pseudonyms on a regular basis, both for privacy, and because I write in several genres.

There's no need to trademark a pen name, and it wouldn't do you any good, anyway.
 

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I don't have any answers for you, but I wanted to say that I have thought about it, too. My last name is kind of hard to say. No one ever gets it right. I want to keep my first name though. I thought about writing under my maiden name. I haven't made a decision yet.
 

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Another issue I've thought of is family -- not that it would be a factor for one's decision to use a pen name. But still I wonder if anyone ever had friction from family who wonder, "what's wrong with the name we gave you when you were born?", etc.

I think mine would understand though, coming from a family history in the arts. I've often wondered if that's ever been an issue though. I'm thinking parents or siblings, along those lines.

Spouses and children would probably understand, especially for the anonymity factor. Any author I'm sure has their share of 'fans'. I wouldn't be too thrilled about having my family or myself getting unwanted contacts or 'personal visits', etc. It can be a crazy world.
 

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I would suggest using a pen name if you have a reason to--but a real name otherwise as it will help with promoting etc.
 

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I would suggest using a pen name if you have a reason to--but a real name otherwise as it will help with promoting etc.

You promote a pen name the same way you promote a real name. They aren't any more difficult at all to promote.
 

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I was going on one publisher saying the prefered writers who were out in the open--but now that I think about it that is different from using a pseud. Although using a pseud and appearing in person would mean people would inevitably know who I was I still wouldn't need to use my real name....
 

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The only way I can imagine a pen name being hard to promote is if it's unmarketable. What Fanatic said earlier actually raises a good point. One would assume that someone who's a writer could come up with a good pen name, but I think it's possible that the chosen pen name may not work for the genre, or may sound too silly, uncatchy, etc.

Makes me wonder if works would ever be turned down because the publisher just couldn't get past the pen name.

I've also seen some real names in which I thought might have the same effect.
 

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Often a pen name is more easily promoted than ones real name ..... The sad truth is that etnicity is a real factor in why people often decide upon a book .... 2 of the same books with the same title in 2 seperate stores may do very diffrently in sales if one was authored by "JACK STEEL" and one listed under tyhe name "osama muhhamed"
I know thats extreme , but true .
 

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Ethnicity aside, some people simply have embarassing names. Mine can be difficult to pronounce (I don't know why. It's two syllables that are said they way they're read). It's also embarassing to say at times, especially if you have a southern accent like mine.
If you haven't noticed, my last name is Filyaw.
So yeah, as much as I like the name, I pen.
 

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My last name is one that can be easily poked fun of as well. It's not really embarrasing, and still I like it -- it actually is a good name I think for a writer. Some famous actors have my last name.

I still think I'm leaning towards a pen name when I finish my book though. If it bombs, I can always start over with a clean slate, and a new name.

Or, perhaps i should even write with my real name, and pen on future books until I find one that works.

I have a feeling when the time comes I'm just going to have to flip a coin.
 

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My name is all I really have. It may not be worth anything, but hey, it's mine.
 
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