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Old 04-06-2006, 04:17 AM   #1
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--!?

Just checking, but having such things as exclamation points or question marks inside dashes appropriate. I believe it to be, but if the need to correct me is here, tell me what to do instead.

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You think lifeís been tough on you--you!--because you're alone in the world?
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:45 AM   #2
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Get rid of that exclamation mark!
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:50 AM   #3
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I have no idea what is correct but I wouldn't have a problem with that sentence because the meaning is clear and removing the ! would change it.
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:14 AM   #4
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I was taught not to use both. I think the exclamation mark should go.
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:31 AM   #5
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Yah, exclamation marks are used way too often! The only time I would use them is in fiction dialogue.

Anyway, the exclamation mark goes inside quotation marks when it is part of the quoted material: "I tell you, if you use exclamation marks too much I'm gonna pull my hair out!"

The exclamation mark goes outside quotations when it is not part of the quoted material: You really must read the book "Why Exclamation Marks are so Awful"!

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Old 04-06-2006, 08:40 AM   #6
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In this instance, I'd rather see the second "you" italicized rather than following it with an exclamation point.

But, I have no idea whether the point is grammatically right or wrong in the first place.
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:47 AM   #7
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It's fine. I've seen much stranger things between dashes in much more brilliant sentences than that
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:06 AM   #8
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Sorry for me being so stoopid. I thought you were asking about quotation marks, not dashes. I failed to see your example.
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Old 04-06-2006, 09:54 AM   #9
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Hey, Akuma, this wouldn't happen to be for a fanfiction story, would it?

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Old 04-06-2006, 03:52 PM   #10
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dashes

I'd also get rid of the dashes.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:41 AM   #11
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Alright, thanks for the clarification, guys.

And katiemac, don't be blasphemous. I think we had a whole thread addressing that.
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Old 04-07-2006, 04:48 AM   #12
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I'd also get rid of the dashes.
That would leave you with You think lifeís been tough on you you because you're alone in the world?
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Old 04-07-2006, 06:09 AM   #13
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Well, I'm not getting rid of the dashes, of course. But took katiemac's advice and made it in italics, instead. It looks far better that way, I think.
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