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TheIT

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Jumping on the naming bandwagon....

I'm looking for suggestions for a title for mages in my fantasy WIP. The titles I've got so far are Apprentice, Journeyman, and Spellmaster (Master for short). A beginning student starts as an apprentice and becomes a journeyman after demonstrating a basic knowledge of magic. The journeyman then studies under different masters to learn their specialities. To become a master, the journeyman must perform a series of horrendously difficult spells. Success in the master trials yields access to great power. Failure yields insanity or death. Not every journeyman is willing to take the risk to become a master, so some journeymen remain at journeyman level for their entire lives. No shame is attached to not attempting the master trials, and some of the older "journeymen" are quite powerful. Also, most journeymen who are trying to become masters don't attempt the trials until middle age.

What I'm looking for is a title to call a "journeyman" who has made the decision not to become a master. His "journey" has ended, but his career in magic continues.

Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions!
 

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Conjurer? Practitioner? Magician? Adept? Implies success at something, without the achievement of, say, 'sorcerer'.
 

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Richard said:
Conjurer? Practitioner? Magician? Adept? Implies success at something, without the achievement of, say, 'sorcerer'.
I like adept. You could go w/ "sage," ;) but that might imply that they are wiser than the master.
 

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i like adept too. Enchanter would be good, so would wizard. There's artistian. I know i know! you can use learned. one guy could be like 'what are you?' and your guy could go 'I'm a Learned.'

How about it? :idea:

.....

I know.... not a good idea.
 

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If he concentrates on one type of magic, anything with the -mancer suffix will do.

Geomancer, Chronomancer, Aquamancer, Pyromancer, Necromancer, etc.
 

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Since the apprentice-journeyman-master system implies a guild, how about 'guildsman' or 'craftsman'?

Do other professions in your world use the same system? An older journeyman-gardener, for instance, might be referred to as a 'Gardener' with only a master being referred to by title ('Master-Gardener'). The pattern then could be used throughout, including your magic users - say, 'Spellcaster' vs. 'Master-Spellcaster'.

Also, how do the different levels earn a living? Traditionally, an apprentice is paid nothing (and is possibly charged a fee), a journeyman is paid a daily wage, and a Master owns their own business. That might give you a clue as to what to call them.

Finally, you could 'bump' everyone up one -
Applicants learn the basics (in some sort of class setup?)
Apprentices study under different masters
Journeymen work without supervision
Masters train apprentices
 

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I know, this may not be what you had in mind.

However, failure to ascend to full master status SHOULD carry some kind of stigma in the name, even if it doesn't in the culture. How did such a trend begin? Apprentices refusing to risk their neck in the master trials.

Why not call them "Fell", or "Outsiders", or "Ronin".
Wise wizards can be forgiving of such things, and let the Fell Mage come back into the fold. It could evolve over time as a natural part of the mage process. The wisdom gained from spending time as an outsider beyond the structure of the Master system can be seen as a way to help mages grow in maturity as well as practicality before their trials.
 

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I also like the idea of "Fell" Mages.

If the system really stigmatizes journeymen who refuse to take the test, there is always an opportunity for an outsider to defy expectation, go beyond arbitrary limitations, and achieve new powers beyond the home of the Masters. Point out the flaws in the system, and how it inhibits growth and learning.

I recall there was such a character in a Dragonlance book - called them Renegades. Got more into how they were defiers of law, and became prone to evil.
 

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I always like titles with color rather than description.

Pennyweights. Timekeepers. The Grey Tribe. The Seiners.

In my opinion, the overuse of descriptive names--thaumaturgist, geomancer, necromancer, thisomancer, thatomancer--serves to make wizards more scientific and less wondrous. An exotic, totally unrelated name keeps the awe, or dread, or respect, or whatever is appropriate for your setting's attitude toward wizards.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions. Some good ideas, but no lightning yet.

Jewel101, I like the idea of "learned" but I'm already using that word in another capacity. In this world, some people have the natural gift of magic, so they are either "gifted" or "magic touched". Others have the potential to learn magic, so if they become mages they're referred to as "learned" because they had to learn how to use it. Natural mages tend to be more powerful than learned because the magic is part of them, but they're also more dangerous. A natural mage always needs to keep control to prevent magic from getting loose. Getting a natural mage drunk is a very bad idea.

Yes, mages are organized into a guild like other crafts but they are much more strictly controlled. A couple hundred years ago a group of mages tried taking power. The ensuing war nearly decimated society and they've been rebuilding ever since. After the war mages were shunned since the common folk saw all mages as the cause of their troubles, but their society requires magic to survive. Controls were imposed upon mages forcing them to wear specific colors and marks so they can't hide their magic. At the point my story takes place mages aren't lynched on sight anymore and the inquisition type trials into the ethical uses of magic are over, but mages aren't really welcome.

So from a common folk perspective, a Spellmaster is treated with respect and fear. Who knows if another master will spark off a new Upheaval? Thank the gods there aren't that many masters. A journeyman can set up shop to perform everyday tasks, and if our village didn't have a journeyman level mage we'd be vulnerable every time a magic storm struck. And that "journeyman" over there? We know he's safe because he doesn't have the ambition to become a master. Ambition in a mage is dangerous, you know. ;)

From a mage perspective, they're trying to rebuild magic's good image in the eyes of the people. The mage guild needs a certain number of masters, but they'd rather have lots of live "journeyman" mages than dead master aspirants. Some journeymen are not capable of succeeding in the master trials no matter how much they study. Spellmasters look upon them with sympathy, almost pity, since they can never reach the heights. Other journeymen are capable but afraid or unambitious. It's considered bad form to ask a "journeyman" why they aren't aspiring to be a master. How does the journeyman feel? Well, that's another story.
 

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I read in another book that a mage with that position in society was call a hedge witch; that could really work for you, since the journeymen evade the master trials. In your case, Hedge Mage would work or Hedge wizard (ek!).

..or how about the Eludes? :e2brows: haha or the Quibs?

gtg sorry, no more suggestions for now
 

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I thought of more suggestions. You could simply not give them a name. They could be simply a mage. and/or when asked, they could say 'Oh, I've Studied.' I actually like that
 

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I dare say that readers will appreciate cleverness with whatever you name them instead of trying to squeeze by without a title. It's kind of like the old bit in SF stories where you tried to claim that the alien's name was unpronounceable, so you could just call him Al or Bob. In other words, try to avoid using a cop out.
 

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In this world, names and titles are important. Magic is one of the fields where a commoner can advance based on ability rather than lineage. I can't see them not wanting a specific title.

A formal introduction will tell a great deal about the person's place in society. Everyone is given a single name at birth. Someone born into one of the Great Houses will take the house name as a surname. Someone taking oath to a Great House will add "este <GH name>" to the end of their name. Only the Lord and Lady of a GH can use the house name alone.

A master mage chooses a self surname to distinguish themselves from the political ramifications of being part of a House. Usually they choose something reminiscent of the type of magic they wield. I'm considering giving this option to the "journeymen" mages as well, but I might keep it as one of the perqs of being a Spellmaster.

The suggestion of "spellcaster" or "caster" is growing on me, but I'm concerned about the similarity to master. "Master Parle Flamestrike, may I introduce Caster Declan?" Too close?

Also, does anyone have any suggestions about how to address a commoner, or a noble whose lineage you're not certain of? "Mister" sounds out of place, but I need something better than "Hey, you."

Thanks.
 

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TheIT said:
Also, does anyone have any suggestions about how to address a commoner, or a noble whose lineage you're not certain of? "Mister" sounds out of place, but I need something better than "Hey, you."
Milord or sir is appropriate - a commoner would be humble and decline any claim to such a title, whereas anything else could offend a noble.

Also thinking of Goodman, but that led me to another possible title for mages - Goodmage? Freemage?
 

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What about Fellmage? It shows that they "fell' out of the progression and didn't make it to the rank of master for whatever reason.

"Master Parle Flamestrike, may I introduce Fellmage Declan?"

Sounds good to me but this is your world, and your choice.
 

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"Fellmage" is intriguing, but unfortunately the word "fell" also has negative connotations. Fell is a synonym for "inhumanly cruel" or "capable of destroying" (according to Webster's). Mages are trying to improve their image and don't want to remind people of the horrors committed by mages during the Upheavals. BTW, the evil mages who started the Upheavals were called the Darkenscalds.
 

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Depends on how you want to use it. As an adj. it does mean cruel, but don't use it that way. It also means to "to fall, knock down." (according to websters.) So he could have just fell out of progression or just fell out of line. Someone could also have knocked him out of line.

So, after reading what your story was about I, and this is just me, think Fellmage would fit perfectly. The people wouldn't see them as much of a threat since they are no longer persuing the rank of master and the masters are the ones the people fear the most.
 

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In my Federated Society of the Arcane, the ranks, from the bottom up, are: Pre-Initiate, Initiate, Minor Adept, Major Adept, Magus, and Archmage. The head of the Society is called the Presiding Magus, but this is a bureaucratic post and the holder might well be an Initiate (in terms of magical power).
 

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Question:

How does anyone know that a particular Journeyman has made the decision not to attempt Master status? Is there a formal ceremony where the Journeyman decines to begin Master trials? Or is there a slow progression from promising young Journeyman to crochety elder not-Master?

I ask because you say that names and titles are important in your world. Well, at what point is Journeyman Jameson no longer Journeyman Jameson, and instead is introduced as Caster Jameson (or whatever)? Seems like that would be a... traumatic experience, no? And an important turning point in a world where names and titles are important.

So if there isn't a ceremony or whatever, why not? And if there is a ceremony, what do the mages do in this ceremony? That would probably be your name, right there.
 
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I like Andrew Jameson's suggestion. :)
If not, or it sounds funny, then maybe Master Journeyman? It's long, but shows he's completed something but still a journeyman in rank.
Good luck!
 
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