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Old 02-06-2013, 09:07 AM   #1
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"Space Marines" Now A Trademarked Phrase

Games Workshop has decided they own the term "Space Marines."

Frickin' unbelievable.

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:33 AM   #2
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Doesn't surprise me even a little... ever since GW took on the more "corporate" feel they've slowly been going down hill. Hell the US president of GW wants to have Games Day in Tennessee instead of Baltimore.
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Didn't Lucas try this with 'stormtroopers' years ago?
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How many existing books are now going to require checking their trademarked reference, because they used this term?

I think Tanya Huff uses it extensively in her Confederation series.
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Code Monkeys used this term first. Maybe they should sue.
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Can this even be enforced, considering that, as Gilroy said, the term predates Warhammer and has appeared in quite a bit of media?
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Can this even be enforced, considering that, as Gilroy said, the term predates Warhammer and has appeared in quite a bit of media?
Based on that wikipedia article, they'll be going against Heinlen's estate... And the people who created the movie Avatar... Ew!
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All I'm going to say is that expressing my feelings on this subject to the fullest extent would involve far too many profanities.
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It appears that one of the dangers of self-publishing includes the inability to defend yourself against frivolous law suits.
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Well, it's easy enough to *start* with a self-published author with no cash to defend herself...
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Uggghhh .... and this is why I switched to independent miniature companies. GW has forgotten when they proudly published pics of tanks made out of deodorant bottles and other companies' model kits.
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Really? So because my current story has "dryads" in it, if I get it published, no one else can ever write about dryads ever again?

Seriously, how freaking stupid can these idiots be?!
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Well, considering how Super-Hero is owned jointly by DC and Marvel, I'm not surprised.
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Games Workshop has decided they own the term "Space Marines."

Frickin' unbelievable.

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Oh great, now we have to write about "Space Naval Infantry."
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Based on that wikipedia article, they'll be going against Heinlen's estate... And the people who created the movie Avatar... Ew!
Heh, I wish them luck with that. Actually I don't, I hope they lose their Shirt (tm) on it, but you know what I mean.

There, I used the word "shirt" in online media, with a capital letter and everything, so it's now my common law trade mark.
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This is just doubly infuriating because Hogarth is such a sweetheart. I mean, it'd be awful if they did it to ANYBODY, of course, but she so doesn't deserve to have to deal with this sort of bullying.

Scalzi and Popehat have both taken up the cry, though, so I'm really hoping they don't get away with this.
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They can claim all they want that they have been protecting the term, but - even without searching - I can think of dozens of instances of the use of "Space Marines" from the 90s and 00s. Anyways, it is about as generic a term as I can think of.
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Did Amazon even ask for proof of trademark or just decide to accept the Big Guy's word over the Little Guy's?
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GW could have a boycott and public relations nightmare with this, if they are not careful. Once Scalzi and Popehat are involved, Doctorow and Whedon are not far behind, as well as an unflattering mention on 'The Big Bang Theory'.
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Seriously, how freaking stupid can these idiots be?!
It works for the Olympics. Try using *that* ancient term commercially.
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