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Old 01-10-2013, 07:16 AM   #1
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London Neighborhoods

In my WIP, the main character is working for a publication based in London (the UK one). When it started in the Victorian era it was based in a well-to-do neighborhood, but as the decades went past and its fortunes faded, it's wound up in an industrial park on the outskirts of town.

What I'm looking for is the names of a couple of neighborhoods/regions that would fit those descriptions. If anybody's got any ideas, I'd appreciate it.

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London has grown hugely since the Victorian era so being on the outskirts of town now represents a problem. A nice village outside London in the Victorian era now within London, easily doable. A formerly well-to-do area now rough within London also doable.
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If it was a mainstream publication based in London in the Victorian era, you might want to consider Fleet Street. Chelsea or Kensington have the prestige but not the same history. They might be more suited to a specialist magazine. For very adult interests try Soho.

Business parks and trading estates can be found all over. They usually aren't on the outskirts of London itself, but in the poorer districts. Tottenham, Lambeth, Southwark or Croydon all have trading estates and won't have the costs of Central London.
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In my WIP, the main character is working for a publication based in London (the UK one). When it started in the Victorian era it was based in a well-to-do neighborhood, but as the decades went past and its fortunes faded, it's wound up in an industrial park on the outskirts of town.

What I'm looking for is the names of a couple of neighborhoods/regions that would fit those descriptions. If anybody's got any ideas, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!
Do you mean that the publication's fortunes faded and it had to move to the outskirts of town, or the area's fortunes faded and it became a more downtrodden place?
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London doesn't really have outskirts. There are parts where you can debate whether it's still London or whether it's a different town, but there's no edge per se.
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Just a sidenote, and I'm sorry if you're already well aware, but instead of regions you might want to think in terms of boroughs. That's the word used to differentiate the different 'sections' of London. There still are a few well-known neighbourhoods, though.

Soho (Westminister Borough) and Fleet Street (Westerminister) are the ones that come to mind for publishing companies. Whitechapel (Tower Hamlets) is also an artsy area in my mind but I think that might be due to overexposure to certain comics rather than actual fact.

Tirial's reply seems to cover things excellently.
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London doesn't really have outskirts. There are parts where you can debate whether it's still London or whether it's a different town, but there's no edge per se.
If you believe the airport naming, even Luton is in London.
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In my WIP, the main character is working for a publication based in London (the UK one). When it started in the Victorian era it was based in a well-to-do neighborhood, but as the decades went past and its fortunes faded, it's wound up in an industrial park on the outskirts of town.

What I'm looking for is the names of a couple of neighborhoods/regions that would fit those descriptions. If anybody's got any ideas, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks!
London as we know it now is actually made up of a central town that expanded and swallowed up a lot of other smaller towns - hence you have self contained towns within London.

For an idea of what London looked like in the Victorian era have a look at this http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/1859map/map1859.html

or this one is pretty good too http://www.victorianlondon.org/map1895/frontpage.htm

If the area was well to do then, chances are it still is - land is expensive in London, and those who invest in the expensive areas make sure they stay expensive.
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Tower Hamlets or Brixton I think still have bad reputations, although whether they're deserved is another matter. The well-to-do parts include Hampstead, which also has an artsy reputation. Islington is artsy but not so well off.

So long as you realise that when we say 'not so well off' we mean the house prices haven't yet reached 2M.
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Do you mean that the publication's fortunes faded and it had to move to the outskirts of town, or the area's fortunes faded and it became a more downtrodden place?
Good question. I mean that the publication's fortunes faded. If it was based in my neck of the woods, I would say it moved from downtown to a strip mall in the suburbs.
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So long as you realise that when we say 'not so well off' we mean the house prices haven't yet reached 2M.
Haha. I love how surreal London feels compared to any other part of the UK. It really is a completely different world.
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Good question. I mean that the publication's fortunes faded. If it was based in my neck of the woods, I would say it moved from downtown to a strip mall in the suburbs.
What kind of a publication? If it was, say, a literary magazine, maybe it used to be in genteel literary Bloomsbury and is now above a laundromat in, I dunno, Erith or something. (Linda Smith on her home town of Erith: "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham.")
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Brixton and Streatham (Or Saint Reatham as many of the locals call it). Were affluent Victorian neighbourhoods, the large houses were eventually turned into bedsits and boarding houses and the borough (Lambeth) soon deteriorated into what it is today.
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the offices, printing press or both? If it is the offices then yes it would be possible to have them in a well to do residential area, though the neighbours would be less than happy at having a business next door. Trade, tsk tsk! A printing press would be more problematic as it would be VERY noisy and upset the neighbours. You might find this of interest: http://www.victorianlondon.org/distr...aternoster.htm
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