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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Apr 2008
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How do you stay interested?
How do you stay interested in your novel? I have started two different novels this month. Once I reach the 5,000-word mark, I get a little bored of the story and start to lose interest. Does this happen to anyone else? How do you remain excited about your work?
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empty-nester!
Join Date: Mar 2010
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If I find myself getting bored, I know I've gotten off-track. So it's go back to the place where I was still involved and see where I went wrong. Bored writer - bored reader.
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Seashell Seller
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Seashore
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I think one does best when one comes up with a truly viable story idea. (Wish I could tell you how to do that...)
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Simplify.
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Georgia
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I make the plot more interesting.
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Playing the waiting game
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Places where there are APOs
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It happens - I'm an outline type of person, so I might skip forward to the parts I want to write and then come back to the point where I was stuck. Usually, knowing what happens later helps me write what 'needs to happen'.
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Australia
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For me it's the characters much more than the plot that keeps me interested. If I want to know what happens to the character I'll keep writing. If I find myself bored with the story I'll take it as an indication that I haven't managed to come up with a character interesting enough to make me want to find out how they deal with being in a story.
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Trained by the soft master
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I do occasionally let myself work on a side project, but I make sure that if I write on a side project, I make sure that I'm writing at least a paragraph or two on my primary work the same day. Sooner or later, I'll hit my stride in the primary work and put down my side project within a week or two.
I'm actually grinding to the end of my current wip and I'm gearing up for the next one already. I'm really only shooting for another 4 to 5,000 words to hit my goal of 75,000 for the first draft.
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Wandering, Confused Writer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Philippines
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I juggle between novels. It takes a bit longer to finish but at least my writing is getting somewhere, even though it's a little spread out. I also get new ideas for one while I write the other, so it's sort of a welcome distraction.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Transcending Canines
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If you can possibly have a "compelling idea" it will surely help. I had this last year for Nanowrimo, and I found the idea exciting enough that it pushed me to write the whole thing. I've only got some vague idea(s) this November, and I only have about 3k words since the 1st. I'm not real enthused...
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not a psychopath I swear
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: far away
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I do get routinely bored with first drafts, usually starting somewhere between the 20k-40k word mark. When I get bored, it's usually a sign that I'm veering away from plot and goal-oriented action, and into random diversions (or endless, plodding conversations). So I write a clunky transition to whatever is my next plot point on my outline and keep going. This section will require substantial edits (and frequently what bored me will get cut), but with each draft I write, it gets progressively less boring.
However, if I can't even make it to 20k before getting bored, that's usually a sign that something is wrong with my initial idea. Often, in this case, it's not developed enough, and I need to sit down and think more about plot and less about premise. I quite frequently end up chucking the whole thing at that point, because I realize the idea isn't substantial enough to carry me through 80k+ words. (This happens with maddening frequency; I'm absolutely terrible at evaluating ideas before I start writing.)
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Missouri
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When I get bored, I decide it's time to throw a new complication into the plot. It can lead you to interesting places. Sometimes this could be new character, too.
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Horror Man
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: uk
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I treat writing as a job. Nobody but me is going to do my job. Nobody but me is going to write my books. So I make sure they get written.
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Custom User Title ... or is it?
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Australia
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My passion for wanting my friends and family to read my tale and see my characters is enough to keep me going. If anyone I don't know reads it and enjoys it... well... sure that's great, but that was never my original goal.
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Angel Wing Fetish
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Southern US
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I don't. I finish by sheer dint of will and a determination to get paid. The new-shiny book will always look like more fun and the old one will always feel like work.
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: in the depths of my tbr pile
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+1 Like I also take into consideration that perhaps the scene where I find myself bored may not be needed. Or wanted. Like SW said, if it's boring me, it'll bore the reader, too.
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The grad students did it
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Most shiny new ideas will give enough inertia to get at least 5,000 words into an embryonic story with little effort and great enthusiasm. Eventually, however, the ethereal tiptoe through the tulips of that new idea ends and the further development of that story requires some solid thought, some thorough execution, and some work. If one wants to be a writer, it's necessary to take a story beyond that inertial enthusiasm and actually work that idea into a real story; to use one's intellect and knowledge of the craft to produce something worth sending out to the readers.
Writing is not just a creative activity. It's also an intellectual one. Squeezing the creative juice from a new idea but bailing when it's time to put in the intellectual work isn't going to result in anything but a hard drive full of 5,000 word aborted embryos. Do you want to be a writer or just someone who writes little bits of stuff?
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Obsessive Plotting Disorder
Join Date: Apr 2011
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I am a story teller. So I keep what I've written reading to my writing group as I go. I get myself excited by working to get to the point where I get to tell people things about my story/characters. It's a good motivator.
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Mother of the Dragons
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Brazil
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Sure, my junk fold is full with starts and has no ends whatsoever, but what I did finish, I enjoyed every single bit of it.
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This book is for children's cancer
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: somewhere between hell and back
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If you're getting bored take that as a sign. If you're bored so will be the reader.
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A Curious Chaos
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I stay interested because my stories always find a way to surprise me even when I have a detailed outline. Unfortunately, my attention wanders when I'm enjoying something so I still need to force myself to sit and write.
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Eight Legs, All Holding Pens
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Surrounded by bats and owls... really!
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What seun and Voirey Linger said. No matter how engaging you find a story, you are going to hit a point where you just don't wanna do it. The only way past that point is to do it anyway.
However, you might want to compare the two stories and find out where, exactly, you're starting to lose interest. Is it where the hero knows what they want but has reached their first real roadblack? Is it the escalation of the conflict, when you know you've got to raise the stakes? If you find out what's stopping you, it'll be easier to get going again.
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Freelance Writer
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: USA
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Sometimes the problem is that you're starting too many new pieces. To write a full-length novel, it's important to buckle down and concentrate. If you get 5,000 words in and then start something new, you're never going to finish anything. You have to discipline yourself to keep going. Back when I was writing short stories, I had dozens of stories in my "in-progress" folder. None of them ever got finished. I had to learn to keep focused. If I got a new idea, instead of starting a new story, I would just add the concept to my "ideas" folder. Once I started forcing myself to finish one story before beginning another, I started making progress. Now, I have more than 50 (finished) short stories to my name.
It's possible there may be flaws in your novels that your subconscious is trying to warn you about. This happened to me last year--I wasn't able to write more than 10,000 words and I soon realized it was because I didn't know know the main characters well enough. They were like cardboard, until I sat down and fleshed them out. So look at your novel with a critical eye. Perhaps there's a major plot hole that needs attention, a subplot that needs to be added, or characters that need to be developed further. Or perhaps you need to write an outline, to guide you and tell you what to write next. Many people write by the seat of their pants, but a lot of people need an outline to follow. Using an outline doesn't mean you're limited to what's in the outline. Think of it more as a rough sketch beneath an oil painting--you can still paint whatever colors you want. You can do whatever you want with your story, but an outline will help keep you on track, so you don't wander aimlessly. Truthfully, my novels usually end up vastly different from their outlines. I'll discard entire subplots, or add new ones. I let the story evolve naturally, even if that means departing from the outline. But when I don't know what to write next, I go back and look at the outline, to see what still needs to be written. One last possibility is that you're simply not ready to write novels at this point in time. There's no shame in that. Some people write nothing but short stories and novellas. Others prefer to write thick novels. Some (like me) started out with short stories, then moved on to novellas, and finally graduated to writing full-length novels. There is a big difference between them--a novel isn't simply a longer short story. The structure is entirely different. It takes practice to be able to write one successfully. In fact, most published authors do NOT start out by selling the first novel they wrote. They relegate their first (and sometimes their second and third) novels to a trunk in the attic and don't sell anything until they've had plenty of practice. In other words, don't give up! Figure out what's stalling you, and work on fixing the problem.
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Swans! In! Space!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Outer Heckistan
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I start something I am interested in enough to finish. If you're one of those writers who gets distracted by shiny new ideas every time you've spent the least bit of effort on the last one (and yes, it's common), then break the habit. No excuses, no shortcuts, and no, there are no secrets to doing it. You just finish what you started. Or you will be always be one of those "writers" full of ideas but never finishing anything. |
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Toughen up.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Outer Brigantia
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For me 5000 words is the end of chapter one, so I haven't really had time to get bored. Now 20,000 is normally the place when I realise that one idea doesn't make a novel, and a need to throw in a ninja or two.
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practical experience, FTW
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: An antique land, whose lone and level sands stretch far away (sometimes the UK)
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All of the above.
If you're bored after 5000 words, I'd put money on it being a concept that you haven't properly developed into a plot. Ideas are not stories. The twistiest intellectual concept, an interesting premise, or a really great character you want to explore, can all be the catalyst to coming up with a story, but they're just building blocks of the story itself. Before you sit down to write one of these ideas, maybe you need to plan out the story arc. Knowing how it starts is all well and good (although often people realise later that they've started in completely the wrong place) but to maintain momentum I think you have to have at least a rough idea where you're going. A story needs a 'problem' with at least 2 complications/escalations, a climax and an ending. if you don't have all of those things at least vaguely worked out, chances are you just have a premise without a story. And if you DO know your story, but you just get a little way through and lose interest in it, maybe you have an attention span problem? that's not meant to be facetious, I mean you have difficulty concentrating on one thing for a sustained period. There really is no cure for that, except self-discipline. If you really are determined to finish something, then you'll get butt in chair and power through the blockage by sheer bloody mindedness. And if THAT doesn't work - workshop it on here. |
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