How not to do a signing!

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Shakesbear

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Not sure if this should be here or in the Politics forum - please move it if is should be over there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...antees-hell-sign-books.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Those wishing to attend the signing are subject to some unusually stringent conditions.
For a start, customers cannot be photographed with the former leader and there will be no personal dedications made by Mr Blair.
All bags, backpacks and briefcases must be checked in before the signing, as well as cameras and mobile phones.

To frustrate the professional 'autograph farmers' who turn up at signings of high-profile books to collect multiple signed copies and then sell them at a profit on eBay Mr Blair will sign a maximum of two books per customer.
Anyone hoping to meet Blair will have to show a Waterstone's receipt proving that they have already paid for the book.

They will then be given a wristband, which allows entry to the signing queue. However, there is still no guarantee that Blair will sign the customer's book.



I read the report and I felt ill. No way to treat customers and/or readers. Blech.
 

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I agree I have seen these measures for Chelsea Handler as well. I don't see it as a problem.
 

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Don't see much of a problem with the security measures, either. When Caroline Kennedy did a signing in one of my local bookstores, the line was ~huge~. Pretty much around the internal perimeter of the mall where the store was located.
 

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Heh, I remember when the Glenn Beck fans had to stand in line for their wristbands at my neighborhood Borders. Once I saw them, I didn't blame him for going for the extra security.

;)

Tony Blair? A couple notches up from Beck, I'd say.
 

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Once I saw them, I didn't blame him for going for the extra security.

We aren't in the Politics forum.

I enjoy Glenn Beck and take exception to this statement. Its not nice to insult people on a forum - no matter their race, gender, religious beliefs...or I'd like to add, political views.
 

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We aren't in the Politics forum.

I enjoy Glenn Beck and take exception to this statement. Its not nice to insult people on a forum - no matter their race, gender, religious beliefs...or I'd like to add, political views.
Okay, to be fair, I interpreted Phaeal's remark as "When I saw the frighteningly huge numbers of them" or "When I saw that they were carrying signs saying 'Kill Glenn Beck'" . . .

It's possible, you know.
 

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Yeah, the wristbands thing is not uncommon for high-profile authors. The venue (bookstore) has to get something out of hosting the event, and that means in-store sales.

Suzanne Collins is doing a signing by me on August 24th at a small store for the release of the third Hunger Games. They have a similar system, but are using vouchers instead of wristbands. They are allowing customers to bring in one book that Collins can stamp for every one book also purchased at the store, which I thought was pretty generous. Anyone is welcome to come, but only those with vouchers (from books purchased in-store) will have an opportunity for her to sign the book, and there's also pretty clear that given time constraints, not everyone is guaranteed a stamped book. I'm pretty sure she's not doing personalizations.

And as someone who has worked events with lots of celebrities, security and enforcement of rules via security is vital.
 

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We aren't in the Politics forum.

I enjoy Glenn Beck and take exception to this statement. Its not nice to insult people on a forum - no matter their race, gender, religious beliefs...or I'd like to add, political views.

Well, not everyone enjoys Glenn Beck as much as you do. It wasn't that much of an insult, really.
 

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When the author is someone as politically high-profile as Tony Blair, the additional security measures are completely understandable.

Yeah, any time the president goes ANYWHERE, the security measures go pretty far. It would make a book signing less enjoyable, certainly, but that's the way it goes with someone that high profile.
 

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When the author is someone as politically high-profile as Tony Blair, the additional security measures are completely understandable.
Absolutely. And, with all the people who are planning to be there to protest, and a bounty put on his head for his arrest for war crimes, yeah, security is going to be needed.

I've seen many authors who will do signings that say they'll sign any of their books that you bring in, but they ask that you buy a book at the store too. It's only fair to the store putting on the event. Having a requirement to buy is up to the store and the author; it's no big deal.
 

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I have no problem with anything except the idiotic protestors.
 

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When the author is someone as politically high-profile as Tony Blair, the additional security measures are completely understandable.


agreed.

the difference here is the political aspect which changes the situation considerably.
 

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I was under the impression that Blair was unpopular in the UK. Will he have mobs of people waiting for a signature?
 

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I suspect that even an unpopular world leader will have more fans lining up at his book signing than pretty much any "normal" writer. Even if 90% of the population of the UK dislikes him, that's still millions of people who like him.
 

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Hmmm... I still think it is over the top! Handing over 'stuff' and such like... but that is just me! In January 2008 we (Sharpe Chefs) had a signing at the same Waterstones. We also had an armed guard - really we did! See here : http://www.thesharpechefs.com/date/2008/01 see the top pic, sorry it is so small but the men in green all had their Baker Rifles with them! So maybe it is just a tad of sour grapes...
 

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I had to buy a Stone Temple Pilots CD in the shop they were signing in if I wanted them to sign my copy (thankfully I hadn't already bought it). And a security guard once told me that the Aussie chocolate/booze treats I gave to Velvet Revolver would probably be thrown out as you never know if someone has injected the packaging with something if they're a freako anti-fan. I reckon the measures are justified even further for if he is not popular: likely to be a tougher crowd!
 

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I would not have restrictions of any shape or form in a book signing of mine. I would treat my fans like royalty because they're interested in my book and I know that during the next signing, they will come back.

When you're in the position of running the event (or someone is running it for you), unfortunately these things may be out of your control.
 

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I would not have restrictions of any shape or form in a book signing of mine. I would treat my fans like royalty because they're interested in my book and I know that during the next signing, they will come back.

Speaking as someone who actually organizes author events: If you're going to have more than two readers/fans at your event, this is the most ridiculous statement I've ever seen.
 

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I went to a very crowded Chuck Palahniuk book signing once. The book store was so packed that they had to turn people away at the door because there was no room for them at the store.

He was great though. He signed books for two and a half hours. This was in like 2003, when "Lullaby" came out, so I had the new book and his first three as well. He signed all of them. And he hung around to talk to the people who hadn't been able to get into the stores. The event started at seven, and he must have been there until almost midnight, and it's like that at all of his signings.

I hear that, for most authors, book signings are about the bookstores and networking booksellers, especially at indie stores where they hand-sell books to customers.
 
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I went to a very crowded Chuck Palahniuk book signing once. The book store was so packed that they had to turn people away at the door because there was no room for them at the store.

He was great though. He signed books for two and a half hours. This was in like 2003, when "Lullaby" came out, so I had the new book and his first three as well. He signed all of them. And he hung around to talk to the people who hadn't been able to get into the stores. The event started at seven, and he must have been there until almost midnight, and it's like that at all of his signings.

Chuck's a good one -- he actually gets to his events an hour early (as a rule) to mingle with his fans, start signing stuff, generally hanging out.

Neil Gaiman's another -- he'll hang out as long as he can, usually till the last person in line has had everything signed. But that's changed, as he's gone from 200 seat events to 800 seat events to 2000 seat events -- there was no signing at all at his Sydney event this past week. There were just too many people.

The restrictions on on author signing (limiting number of quantities, security measures, etc) are a delicate balancing act between the writer, the publicist, the venue and the bookseller (in whatever combination). Take the matter of cell phone photos. It used to be, you'd get a few dedicated fans bringing actual cameras to a Neil Gaiman event (as an example). Pose for a picture? No problem. Now, everyone has a camera in their cell, and everyone wants a photo. What's a few seconds here, a few seconds there, pose, fumble, take a shot? Maybe a minute total, right? Tops. But what if you're doing a sold out 800 seat event, and 25% of those people want pictures? (That's a low estimate, as a rule) That's 200 minutes (more than 3 hours) just for pictures. On top of the booksigning. So a lot of writers of a certain stature have said either no photos, or no posed photos.

Because they just can't. They're only human, and when they're on tour, they're up at 5 in the morning, out the door for a flight or to a tv studio. They're on the run all day, interview to bookstore for stock signing to interview. Maybe they get a chance to have a little dinner. And then they perform, and they sign books. 200 minutes on cell phone photos is 3 hours that could make the difference between exhausted and dead.

When you've got someone like a politician, it's that much more complicated, with security, etc. And it's not an option (retired American presidents have their own secret service details - I suspect it's similar in the UK). These are people whose lives are legitimately in danger at any given moment. You don't want to check your bag? Are you kidding me? I have to check my bag to browse at the Strand in New York. Suck it up, or don't bother with it.

When we had Salman Rushdie, it was actually the venue that demanded additional security -- they wouldn't rent to us otherwise. It was hilarious, though, because Salman refused to be handld -- if he had known there was armed security in the building, he would have been upset. So we kept them away from him, and we didn't breathe a word about the bomb searches in the days and hours up to the event.

(Wow - this got long.)

Basically (and this isn't directed at you, djf) -- rules and procedures are there for a reason, though you might not be aware of it. No bookseller and no writer wants to piss off readers. But the world is a complicated place. Deep breaths, understanding, and move on.
 

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The restrictions on on author signing (limiting number of quantities, security measures, etc) are a delicate balancing act between the writer, the publicist, the venue and the bookseller (in whatever combination). Take the matter of cell phone photos. It used to be, you'd get a few dedicated fans bringing actual cameras to a Neil Gaiman event (as an example). Pose for a picture? No problem. Now, everyone has a camera in their cell, and everyone wants a photo. What's a few seconds here, a few seconds there, pose, fumble, take a shot? Maybe a minute total, right? Tops. But what if you're doing a sold out 800 seat event, and 25% of those people want pictures? (That's a low estimate, as a rule) That's 200 minutes (more than 3 hours) just for pictures. On top of the booksigning. So a lot of writers of a certain stature have said either no photos, or no posed photos.
Cell phone cameras are the bane of existence for event organizers, especially where fans/press is involved.
 
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