Whale kills trainer at SeaWorld.
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Wow. Well, more proof that mother nature isn't big on the "nuture" and is kind of a hormonal....*bleep*
I got over all my warm fuzzies about animal kind as a OJT vet tech and volunteer years ago. I wouldn't deliberately harm one, but I've got a healthy respect for what big things with pointy teeth can do to a person.
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They don't call them killer whales for nothing. They are the most ruthless, smartest and efficient killers in any ocean, bar none. Hell, they even feed on great white sharks.
It is a great folly of humankind to think that we can safely interact with such mammals to "educate" the public, when in fact it's done as just another entertainment venue and a means for a corporation to generate income.
We should be ashamed and outraged that such a practice even exists in the first place.
It is a great folly of humankind to think that we can safely interact with such mammals to "educate" the public, when in fact it's done as just another entertainment venue and a means for a corporation to generate income.
We should be ashamed and outraged that such a practice even exists in the first place.
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I haven't had a chance yet to check out the other discussion, but this one seems fine here for now.That's my thread!
Perhaps a merge????
I think its great that Sea World does try to educate the public about all ocean life, espically with the endangered ones (which I think orcas are but I could be wrong) but I think sometimes things just get well...to out of hand. I read that this one whale has killed two other people and honestly that sort of creature should not be put into shows any more. I hate to say it but it was like an accident waiting to happen 
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Reminds me of the local "wildlife park" that has
son: "I think he wanted to eat that guy."
me: "Yeah, that's kinda what I thought, too, son."
Which leads me to mom's survival rule #1: Never tease a tiger or anything with a name/nickname that includes the word "killer".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_GXWwdzQuE
Found a video of the show. It's still going on. I could be wrong, but every fibre of my being says "accident waiting to happen"...
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I don't like the word "killer whale". I've seen these animals in the wild, and they are magnificent and glorious: cooperative, inquisitive, and very intelligent. But they are wild animals, and they are predators.
Not something to put on dislay as something "cute" and cuddly.
Not something to put on dislay as something "cute" and cuddly.
Well i dont think they "tease them" I've heard that they do activities (and shows) with the whales to keep them from being bored all the time. They give them toys and teach them stuff. Maybe the shows arent a good idea any more but I could kinda see where they were going with that. yeah i would like to think there could be a bond between animal and trainer and im sure to an extent there is but yes they are animals and will act on instinct
but im sure that this particular whale wasnt plucked out of the wild and put into a show, he was probably born in captivity and has known humans all of his/her life.
Either way its very sad and my thoughts are with the family and friends of the trainer
but im sure that this particular whale wasnt plucked out of the wild and put into a show, he was probably born in captivity and has known humans all of his/her life.
Either way its very sad and my thoughts are with the family and friends of the trainer
I'm sure the "little" financial boost that the park got from the shows didnt discourage them from shutting the shows down either...when people think seaworld they think shamu and of course the whales
The "tease" comment was directed mostly at the tiger show I saw. There's something about inviting a tiger to tackle you that seems...well...unwise.
Maybe that's not teasing, but I would say it's opening the door for an accident to happen.
As for the whale and the trainer. It's very sad...and like others I question the wisdom of keeping an animal with that particular history in the show.
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"Maybe that's not teasing, but I would say it's opening the door for an accident to happen.
As for the whale and the trainer. It's very sad...and like others I question the wisdom of keeping an animal with that particular history in the show."
I like this and I agree...sorry I dont know how to qoute
I just think that for right now for this particular group of whales seaworld has to keep them because they've been raised in captivity and wouldnt be able to survive in the wild. but seaworld could stop doing the shows and training new whales...but i think if they did that the park would cease to continue and they do some good to the animal kingdom
As for the whale and the trainer. It's very sad...and like others I question the wisdom of keeping an animal with that particular history in the show."
I like this and I agree...sorry I dont know how to qoute
I just think that for right now for this particular group of whales seaworld has to keep them because they've been raised in captivity and wouldnt be able to survive in the wild. but seaworld could stop doing the shows and training new whales...but i think if they did that the park would cease to continue and they do some good to the animal kingdom
I know this will sound heartless on my part, but I have no sympathy at all for the trainer or anyone else who deliberately puts themselves in harm's way when interacting with animals that belong in the wild instead of in a controlled environment.
I seriously wish more people would be maimed or killed so that the practice might be discontinued altogether.
I seriously wish more people would be maimed or killed so that the practice might be discontinued altogether.
This is sad. I love dolphins and whales. I wonder why the whale killed the trainer.
I agree with Silver King, whales or dolphins belongs to the wild nature, not to amuse humans.
When they learn....?
I agree with Silver King, whales or dolphins belongs to the wild nature, not to amuse humans.
When they learn....?
Never. At least not as long as there's money to be made from making animals do funny tricks.
I agree with SK. Orcas are efficient deadly hunters. No wild animal especially one with an intelligence that far outstrips humans wants to be penned up and perform stupid pet tricks. Any person that thinks they control these animals is setting themselves up for disaster.
These are not domesticated animals. It does not mattered whether they are born in captivity or not. They are predatory hunters who are known to play with their food before they kill.
Even if to the whale this was not an attack but play. This is an animal of immense size and strength. No human can withstand the "play" of an orca. These animals don't spit water and bob their heads as play. They grab, shake, toss, fling, bat, tail slap and leap with tremendous force.
These are not domesticated animals. It does not mattered whether they are born in captivity or not. They are predatory hunters who are known to play with their food before they kill.
Even if to the whale this was not an attack but play. This is an animal of immense size and strength. No human can withstand the "play" of an orca. These animals don't spit water and bob their heads as play. They grab, shake, toss, fling, bat, tail slap and leap with tremendous force.
Sadly I have to say that maybe I agree and given this whale's history I dont think he/she should have been performing in any of the shows. I mean I can DEFINATLY see the cons to this sitauation and I know I'm the only one but I see a few of the tiny-weenie pros. But I cant agree with the statement made by Silver_King, I dont wish more people would die to me saying that is just wrong. I hope that SeaWorld and other parks can learn from this ONE lesson without causing harm to anymore people or animals.
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That's my thread!
Perhaps a merge????
There are actually two threads in P&CE.
Thanks, History_gal.
I just don't see a lot of sense in doing these shows with whales like Orcas or tigers or any other animal that is a natural predator.
I don't feel so strongly about dolphins. From what I've ever heard about dolphins they don't seem to mind so much, enjoy playing anyway, etc. It just seems a more natural fit for them. And so long as they're being treated well by the people, I don't see too much harm.
Orcas, though... that's just kind of nuts.
Yeah, that does sound heartless. I could see saying that it shouldn't be unexpected given the nature of what he was doing and the history of the animal (and the type of animal in general), but feeling no sympathy for a person killed by an animal is a little much.
Wow. Just, wow.
There have been many reports of attacks by dolphins in swim with dolphin programs. Many people have been bitten, and battered by them. They can be highly aggressive animals.
I don't know if there have been attacks on dolphin trainers