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I am new to Suite, but I understand it well, and I'm gathering that many of you are having some difficulty.

You have to understand something about per click content. In order to be successful you have to be providing content that is associated with goods or services. Period.

Choosing great keywords isn't relevant if your content ads are worth pennies. Advertisers only pay good money to advertise on pages in which the content is associated with their goods or service.

So, while you can write 100 great articles about history or current events, what are you selling? You are a by product seller on this site. You have to think like one. Those 100 articles with .05 a click of which you get a penny or ha' penny aren't going to net you more than 20.00 ish a month. Then you will complain that you aren't making any money, and wonder why others are. Lena Gott http://www.suite101.com/writer_articles.cfm/lilacgirl77/2 made 5000.00 last month. She routinely makes around 2000 as per http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com...n-interview-with-editor-in-chief-colin-smith/

It's because she writes good content. She writes topics that have a higher CPC. She understands SEO and how to use it.

Professional writers should be able to write content on almost any topic if it is written in journalistic style. If you hate writing stories with a higher CPC such as those about solar panels and Mesothelioma, find a balance. It's called "work" for a reason. So write what you love, but ALSO write what will make money.

After taking some time to do a boat load of research, I just started with Suite. In 3 days I posted 6 articles. I've earned 15 cents in revenue and I'm now getting 100 PV's as of today and yesterday. I credit this to research on what sells and how to actually make money on the site. It isn't just good content or SEO.... it's also the right content that matters.

And while Mesothelioma has an almost 50 dollar per click rate it is my belief that finding topics in a mid-range (around 20.00 cpc) balanced with topics in the lower range (around 2.00-3.00 cpc) with a search volume of around 10,000-40,000 (not higher than 75,000 not lower than 5,000) and almost never a cpc of under 1.00, will net you lasting financial benefits, create a diverse online portfolio, and keep you from burning out in any one topic.

ALL of this information is out there, but I've never seen it in one concise place that makes sense for writers. I hope this insight helps you understand how suite works as a place to make money if you're having difficulty.
 

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I am new to Suite, but I understand it well, and I'm gathering that many of you are having some difficulty.

You have to understand something about per click content. In order to be successful you have to be providing content that is associated with goods or services. Period.

Choosing great keywords isn't relevant if your content ads are worth pennies. Advertisers only pay good money to advertise on pages in which the content is associated with their goods or service.

So, while you can write 100 great articles about history or current events, what are you selling? You are a by product seller on this site. You have to think like one. Those 100 articles with .05 a click of which you get a penny or ha' penny aren't going to net you more than 20.00 ish a month. Then you will complain that you aren't making any money, and wonder why others are. Lena Gott http://www.suite101.com/writer_articles.cfm/lilacgirl77/2 made 5000.00 last month. She routinely makes around 2000 as per http://www.freelancewritinggigs.com...n-interview-with-editor-in-chief-colin-smith/

It's because she writes good content. She writes topics that have a higher CPC. She understands SEO and how to use it.

Professional writers should be able to write content on almost any topic if it is written in journalistic style. If you hate writing stories with a higher CPC such as those about solar panels and Mesothelioma, find a balance. It's called "work" for a reason. So write what you love, but ALSO write what will make money.

After taking some time to do a boat load of research, I just started with Suite. In 3 days I posted 6 articles. I've earned 15 cents in revenue and I'm now getting 100 PV's as of today and yesterday. I credit this to research on what sells and how to actually make money on the site. It isn't just good content or SEO.... it's also the right content that matters.

And while Mesothelioma has an almost 50 dollar per click rate it is my belief that finding topics in a mid-range (around 20.00 cpc) balanced with topics in the lower range (around 2.00-3.00 cpc) with a search volume of around 10,000-40,000 (not higher than 75,000 not lower than 5,000) and almost never a cpc of under 1.00, will net you lasting financial benefits, create a diverse online portfolio, and keep you from burning out in any one topic.

ALL of this information is out there, but I've never seen it in one concise place that makes sense for writers. I hope this insight helps you understand how suite works as a place to make money if you're having difficulty.

Good post. This is also posted in one convenient place over and over and over again in the forums at Suite 101, LOL. I often wonder why people don't use it more? The writers over there are tremendously helpful and will take people under their wing and chat through private emails to get people fully on board.
 

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Interesting post. I've had very little luck there especially when compared to my ehow account. Maybe I should try again? Would anyone like to join me?
 

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Anastacia: If you want to buddy up I just started. I think it will help us hold each other accountable. I read your pneumonia article. Just to point out your money problem, although you get page one on google search for your title, if you use the adwords tool you'll find that your ads are only worth a nickel a click. HOWEVER, you can use the same content and search optimize differently. For example: "Protection Against Viruses" is a $3.15 ad. If you were to re-title your ad "Protection Against Viruses" and then talk about a variety of vaccines that do so such as varicella, etc, you will make more money. Also perhaps "Protection Against Viruses: Pneumonia" might just give you the right keywords. I do NOT know if your ad has high CPC and low CPC keywords if they will post the high cpc ads when someone uses a low cpc search. But, I'm certainly hoping that that is the case!
 

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In my seven months at Suite, I've had little success. A total of about $46.95 earned, plus $101 in a contest. Of course, I have written much about things that interest me regardless of whether they can expect to earn anything.

The key has to be relevant ads. If these come with articles about products, so be it. It seems that articles about a subject that results in ads for services about that subject should also do well. Relevant ads are the key. My flood articles have excellent relevant ads; my history articles do not; my stock trading articles do.

Beginning late October I began changing my article mix, doing more of the stock trading articles. Revenue went up, but I did not have a trend established before the Christmas slump in page views. In January my revenue seems to be on an uptrend, despite losing time to sickness and not posting an article since Dec 17.

Relevant ads, that's the key.

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Hi Norman, I'm sorry if you got "write about products" from "content associated with goods and services" I would expect that stock trading articles and articles about flood as both are directly and indirectly associated with a service as well as a product, would be excellent articles to write for financial success. I don't know what you mean by "relevant ads" but if you mean that there has to be ads available that are both related to you content and that the advertisers are paying more for, therefore you are getting a higher revenue any time someone clicks on them, then I agree 1000%. :)
 

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BF:

It appears that, from the time I read your original post then reading through the others then formulating my post my retention of what I read was waning. Indeed, you did mention 'goods and services' whereas I retained 'products' from that. My bad.

By relevant ads I mean ads that relate to the subject of the article. My last article was on genealogy, and it has all excellent, relevant ads about getting genealogy records. My articles on stock trading all have excellent ads, about stock trading. But my last history article, about the Massachusetts Government Act of 1774, has ads for government construction, government requirements, Bank of America, nursing grants, etc. Who's going to go to a history article and click on one of those ads?

So I'm agreeing with you. Certain subjects (e.g. history, poetry) will not have ads that relate to the content. And while I might be passionate about those subjects, I'm not going to make any money writing for them at Suite101.

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Just wanted to point out that while I agree with you guys about relevant ads (I was the FW for Mammals for quite a while and believe me - there are no ads there that people will click on), I feel like I have to point something out (yet again).

Success at Suite truly depends upon your definition of success. I make better money as a FW for Vegetable Gardens than I did at Mammals by 100 fold - and for that, I am grateful. Yet what I describe as my "success" came way before I became a FW of Vegetable Gardens. By building my writing platform at writing at Suite, I was given other opportunities for better paying jobs such as blogging gigs (permanent paying jobs, not revenue share), magazine articles (excellent pay here), and book deals.

I'm not one of those making a killing at Suite, but Suite brought more things to my door and I consider that succeeding at Suite.

Just thought I'd point out another side.
 

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Thanks for the tips, I'll have to play with the keyword tools again to see if anything that I feel comfortable writing about has a decent ad rate. Is there a way to search for the high dollar ads, or do you just plug in subjects until you find something you're happy with?
 

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Thanks for the interesting discussion. I started content writing in November. I was just accepted at Suite and haven't written anything for them yet. I did read the article on the woman who made over $4000--inspiring.

My main issue is the requirement for a photograph. While I respect other people's choices, I'm not inclined toward becoming an online personality for content sites and being recognizable to random strangers. I experience more than enough invasion of privacy due to living in a tiny town.

I've heard of other writers using a stock photo (of a stranger) as their photo, yet that raises ethical and legal questions.

Any thoughts on that option and the whole business of online exposure? I'm burning out on DS and need more income avenues.
 

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Thanks for the interesting discussion. I started content writing in November. I was just accepted at Suite and haven't written anything for them yet. I did read the article on the woman who made over $4000--inspiring.

My main issue is the requirement for a photograph. While I respect other people's choices, I'm not inclined toward becoming an online personality for content sites and being recognizable to random strangers. I experience more than enough invasion of privacy due to living in a tiny town.

I've heard of other writers using a stock photo (of a stranger) as their photo, yet that raises ethical and legal questions.

Any thoughts on that option and the whole business of online exposure? I'm burning out on DS and need more income avenues.

It's not allowed and Suite will terminate you if they catch it. They ask that all their writers use their real names and photos as it is more professional.
 

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To address the photo issues, I wonder if you could use a silhouette or a partial facial photo? Or how about wearing a hat and/or sunglasses?
 

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Thanks for the interesting discussion. I started content writing in November. I was just accepted at Suite and haven't written anything for them yet. I did read the article on the woman who made over $4000--inspiring.

My main issue is the requirement for a photograph. While I respect other people's choices, I'm not inclined toward becoming an online personality for content sites and being recognizable to random strangers. I experience more than enough invasion of privacy due to living in a tiny town.

I've heard of other writers using a stock photo (of a stranger) as their photo, yet that raises ethical and legal questions.

Any thoughts on that option and the whole business of online exposure? I'm burning out on DS and need more income avenues.

Hi Brycescribe,
Just my 2 cents. You want to build an online presence on the Internet. You want people to be able to find published articles. The more page views that one acquires through sites like AssociatedContent.com and Suite101.com equals more cash in pocket.

AssociatedContent.com has upfront payments too. They also give you the freedom to write about any topic for the most part.

Have a great day!
 

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Thanks for taking time to respond.

Berrywriter -- I appreciate the clarification. I'd rather opt out of Suite 101 than risk losing the account for a rules violation.

KT Golightly -- I wondered about the disguise option. I looked at a number of bio pics in the outdoors section at Suite 101. That's one of my topics and it seemed a legitimate possibility to send a hiking pic of myself that's either a distance shot or in sunglasses--so far all the bio pics I've checked are close-up head shots. No sunglasses, no hats, no partial face, blurry or distance shots.

I'll do some more looking and review the Suite 101 guidelines.

In the meantime, I sold two travel tips to SEED and posted my first rev share article on eHow. I also started four websites on Blogger to experiment with monetized blogging. So at least I'm taking action on my escape-from-Demand-Studios-plan.

I drafted a profile on Suite 101 and started to upload my first article but it was a little too short. If I remember the GLs I have to get the profile and photo on before I can submit my first article. I could send a sunglasses pic and see what the response is.

Michelle--Thanks for the thought. I've heard of Associated Content; there's just a limit to how many different site requirements I want to have to familiarize myself with at once.

From the various discussions I've read, I'm seeing the best income numbers for Suite 101 and eHow writers. Though when I posted my first eHow article--the first one I've posted to the site directly, as opposed to the over 200 I've done via Demand Studios--I found the template is as tedious as the ones at Demand.

At least at Suite 101 it's possible to upload an article without filling in umpteen different boxes on the template.

I'll have to see if I can find a pic of myself that I can stand to post online.

I'm open to any other thoughts on this. Does anyone else have concerns about posting pics of themselves on content sites?

Thanks everyone for the informative discussion.
 

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Hi Brycescribe - I just started at Suite myself and I was also concerned about putting a picture up. My solution was to choose one that's a few years old and therefore not exactly what I look like now. But I also thought about having my picture taken in a hat or in glasses. Or a profile shot, or black and white. There are lots of options if your purpose is just to not be instantly recognizable.
 

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Sweet Pickle--

Thanks for your ideas. The idea of using an older photo makes sense, as it fulfills the requirement, and chances are I own a few unrecognizable shots. I kind of like the idea of getting to be younger in cyberspace.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who isn't thrilled with this requirement. I wish you well with your venture there.
 

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Just wanted to point out that while I agree with you guys about relevant ads (I was the FW for Mammals for quite a while and believe me - there are no ads there that people will click on), I feel like I have to point something out (yet again).

Success at Suite truly depends upon your definition of success. I make better money as a FW for Vegetable Gardens than I did at Mammals by 100 fold - and for that, I am grateful. Yet what I describe as my "success" came way before I became a FW of Vegetable Gardens. By building my writing platform at writing at Suite, I was given other opportunities for better paying jobs such as blogging gigs (permanent paying jobs, not revenue share), magazine articles (excellent pay here), and book deals.

I'm not one of those making a killing at Suite, but Suite brought more things to my door and I consider that succeeding at Suite.

Just thought I'd point out another side.

A very reasonable point. Congratulations on your books! That's a very cool accomplishment.

Unfortunately I'm at about two bucks for the month so far (on over fifty articles) and finding it very hard to find any motivation at all to write for Suite.

I'm having far more sucess with eHow with far less effort.
 

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A very reasonable point. Congratulations on your books! That's a very cool accomplishment.

Unfortunately I'm at about two bucks for the month so far (on over fifty articles) and finding it very hard to find any motivation at all to write for Suite.

I'm having far more sucess with eHow with far less effort.

That would certainly be frustrating. I don't blame you at all for not feeling motivated. I just want to point out that eHow doesn't have the platform (if-you-will) potential for other things like Suite or About.com do. Just sayin'. But I totally get that you're making more at eHow..DS would probably be good, too!
 
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