Antichrist (why I hate the Daily Mail)

seun · Jul 20, 2009

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1200742/CHRISTOPHER-HART-What-DOES-film-banned-days.html

He hasn't seen it and he has enough information to want it banned?

gonovelgo · Jul 20, 2009

I really hate it when people fly off the handle about something they haven't seen yet.

I also hate it when people claim that something should be banned. Quick, protect the public from all the nasty old amorality!

scarletpeaches · Jul 20, 2009

I read this article yesterday and...brace yourselves.

While the DM says a lot I agree with (okay, okay, my politics are becoming more right-wing as I get older, sue me), this is the biggest heap of judgemental SHITE I have read in a long while.

Point well made about the scabs. But this is a movie which I have a right to see (or not) as I choose and see fit.

I mean...this is above and beyond righteous indignation. This is borderline fanaticism. Thank god I read it online and didn't pay for the paper!

Fran · Jul 20, 2009

Lars von Trier is not exactly mainstream viewing. I can't see too many under-18s saying 'Mummy, Mummy take me to see the new film by that crazy Danish man I've never heard of before!' Why don't these journalists realise that it's just giving the film publicity? If you're that offended just shut your face and don't give it any exposure (no pun intended.) It'd hurt the film far more if everyone refused to discuss it at all.

Celia Cyanide · Jul 20, 2009

It sounds like this person just really doesn't like Lars Von Trier. And he can be arrogant and annoying to some people. But geez...I read his synopsis, and while I'm sure there's more to it than that, I don't buy that "merely reading about Antichrist is stomach-turning, and enough to form a judgment."

katiemac · Jul 20, 2009

I wonder what this guy would have said about some of the movies we watched in my sexuality and the cinema course.

seun · Jul 20, 2009

Celia Cyanide said:
It sounds like this person just really doesn't like Lars Von Trier. And he can be arrogant and annoying to some people. But geez...I read his synopsis, and while I'm sure there's more to it than that, I don't buy that "merely reading about Antichrist is stomach-turning, and enough to form a judgment."

Exactly. It's pathetic for a film critic to say this. Surely as a person with enough of an interest in film to make his living reviewing them, he can't seriously believe this is right.

Celia Cyanide · Jul 20, 2009

seun said:
Exactly. It's pathetic for a film critic to say this. Surely as a person with enough of an interest in film to make his living reviewing them, he can't seriously believe this is right.

Yeah, that's why I kind of think he has a bias against Lars Von Trier. I mean seriously, reading a synopsis is enough to decide whether or not you want to watch a movie, in most cases. But it's not enough to say what he's saying in this editorial.

Zoombie · Jul 20, 2009

The thing that keeps bugging me is, I read the synopsis and I still have no idea how it has anything to do with the biblical anti-Christ!

BenPanced · Jul 20, 2009

If he's calling for a universal ban on a film he's never seen and has no intention of seeing, it rather defeats the purpose of even claiming to have an opinion about the film.

Kurtz · Jul 20, 2009

What's that? A creepy and weird film with Wilem Defoe being creepy and weird? Sign me up.

I can't imagine it'll be more fucked up than Salo, so I reckon I'll be able to handle whatever Lars Von Trier can throw at me.

Celia Cyanide · Jul 20, 2009

Kurtz said:
What's that? A creepy and weird film with Wilem Defoe being creepy and weird? Sign me up.

Um...have you seen Body Of Evidence?

Kurtz · Jul 20, 2009

Celia Cyanide said:
Um...have you seen Body Of Evidence?

That was the joke Wilem Defoe has never not been creepy and weird.

scarletpeaches · Jul 20, 2009

Even in The English Patient?

Calla Lily · Jul 20, 2009

I don't know what you people are talking about. He was perfectly normal in Shadow of the Vampire. :tongue

Kurtz · Jul 20, 2009

scarletpeaches said:
Even in The English Patient?

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"If God wanted women to be treated equally to men, he'd have given them penises." - Wilem Defoe on Women

Mr Flibble · Jul 20, 2009

I think the Daily Mail has had PMT this week or something - it's even more foaming mad dog than usual.

Don't get me started on the Pagan thing and Richard Littlejohn.

*burns effigy*

scarletpeaches · Jul 20, 2009

Kurtz said:
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"If God wanted women to be treated equally to men, he'd have given them penises." - Wilem Defoe on Women

If God wanted men to be treated equally to women, She would have enabled them to have multiple orgasms, Willem.

Zoombie · Jul 20, 2009

Hehe.

Seriously, though, I think I'll just watch the hot sex I can find on the internet, myself.

I'm sure that Antichrist will have better acting, better plot, better sound AND better lighting.

BUT WILL IT HAVE CATGIRLS!?

I think not!

Jcomp · Jul 20, 2009

The tremendous amount of "moral outrage" being aimed at this movie is the main thing that has it on my radar. When I first heard of it I was largely indifferent, then I kept reading about how depraved it is. Still not exactly wanting to see it, but I'm curious as to how revolting it could possibly be.

seun · Jul 21, 2009

This should give you an idea of how revolting it is:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/0/33FA4D945831C3C9802575D3004582A6?OpenDocument

A tenner says this is what the critic read and then decided he knew enough to call for it be banned.

Celia Cyanide · Jul 21, 2009

Kurtz said:
That was the joke Wilem Defoe has never not been creepy and weird.

I was more replying to your "sign me up." Body of Evidence was piss-awful.

Kurtz · Jul 21, 2009

Celia Cyanide said:
I was more replying to your "sign me up." Body of Evidence was piss-awful.

I'll always remember him as Wilhelm Shrek in Shadow of the Vampire. That film kicked ass. It is also the only film to show Defoe without makeup.

Millicent M'Lady · Jul 21, 2009

Tell me this isn't the only reason you hate the Daily Mail?! I can furnish you with many more if you need them!

This quote is the one I found most ridiculous:

I haven't seen it myself, nor shall I - and I speak as a broad-minded arts critic, strongly libertarian in tendency.

Sure you do... Libertarian in tendency my A.

Is the Daily Mail giving any crank a soapbox these days? Is this what passes for opinion journalism these days? Parts of it don't make sense- it's poorly written and is advocating censorship. Not exactly very liberatarian of him.

Mr Flibble · Jul 21, 2009

Is the Daily Mail giving any crank a soapbox these days?

Only if their columns incite a load of people to spurious emotions

Shame - I used to buy purely for the cryptic crossword and the race me and my Dad had to get it finished.

Now I can't ignore the crap.

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