Doctor Who Poll (kinda a branch-off thread to deal with recent episode debacles, etc.)

What do you think should be done with Doctor Who and/or its showrunner?

  • Doctor Who is a good show that's taken a bad turn. Fire Moffat!

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • I don't like the direction the show is going, but Moffat's okay.

    Votes: 10 31.3%
  • I like Moffat, and I like the show. Don't change anything.

    Votes: 2 6.3%
  • The show's beyond help. Cancel it. There're always re-runs...

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • I don't have an opinion.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32

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That's the bunny.

Did they? Well, I've never seen identical cousins before........
 

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I'm not sure what is going on here, but I figured I would chime in.

I like Clara. I really like Clara. Her character is interesting and I'm intrigued with whatever is going on with her, just like the Doctor.

All of that said, most of this season has been a bit lukewarm to me. This latter half in particular hasn't left me excited. Although I did enjoy Saturday's episode. I enjoy Strax. The episodes are lacking a spark that early episodes had.

It could be that Moffat is growing weary and needs to move on. Considering how tight lipped they keep things, and the approaching anniversary, he could be rearing to go. With any hope, he's been putting all his efforts into making the approaching episodes spectacular. But I think we could use for a change in a showrunner.

That said, I'd be very sad if Matt Smith left too. I like his portrayal of the Doctor. Aside from this season, I was completely enthralled. To be honest, if it wasn't for Clara and the Doctor getting through the last half of the season would be very difficult. As it is, I love to watch them, even if the material they are given is subpar.
 

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It could be that Moffat is growing weary and needs to move on. Considering how tight lipped they keep things, and the approaching anniversary, he could be rearing to go. With any hope, he's been putting all his efforts into making the approaching episodes spectacular. But I think we could use for a change in a showrunner.

Well, I remember Moffat taking the huff when Who fans suggested he didn't have the time to do both Doctor Who and Sherlock well, saying of course he did and it wasn't even an issue. I think we all have an opinion about who was right.

Also, the series producers who came in after Russell T Davies left were pretty much loathed by everyone for sticking their oars in and trying to micro-manage everything. Private Eye covered it in some detail but unfortunately I've moved house and don't know where my back issues are at the moment. The producers left at the end of series six and I think everyone was the happier for it. But, I don't really know if Moffat went in with any clear idea of what he wanted to do.

He did write "Blink", though, so I can't give up on him completely.
 

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I think Moffat is getting too much abuse on here. go on Wikipedia (yeah that reliable source!) and check a list of Who episodes since the re-launch. he is linked to nearly all the great ones and has brought some great additions and moments to the story (River Song, Weeping Angels, Torchwood, Captain Jack, silence in the library, blink, beast below and so forth). he is a big who fan, a comedy writer obsessed with horror movies. the perfect mix to have the job. but...

and wait for it...

THE BBC ARE TO BLAME FOR THIS.

I feel moffat needs somebody to wind him in and supervise (like RTD did) and to ensure that things flow. he is lazy at times (how many episodes have now been solved by a magic wave of the screwdriver/wand, a press of a magic button or a complete re-write of history despite repeatedly being told it's not possible?), but he is a fan and has a vision. the episodes are crammed (should be 2 parters most of them or simplified) and the need to have a shocking finale is ruining the lot -why can't it just end and start up again next year??? we got by for 4 decades without cliffhangers!

I also think people have unrealistic expectations. where has this need for a 50th anniversary came from? we didn't have one for 40, 30, 25, 20, 10, 5 or so forth. and they have been bigging it up for so long that people are already complaining before it's been seen. it's been leaked Tennant is coming back and people are complaining Barrowman isn't or either is Ecclestone or any of the classic ones. Tennant is coming back -surely big news right? why would we need all of them returning at once. one is big news...but people are disappointed!

tennant's incarnation is finished as far as i'm concerned. would be nice to see him but not bothered if I didn't. McCann deserves a death scene, would rather they did that somehow and explained the gap between the first run and the relaunch...

moffat isn't the problem, the job is unrealistic (is it for children or adults? is it homage or modern? what is in the whoniverse and what is omitted? does it need a big finale AND an anniversary special to blow our minds? why a constant need for "important" companions, in the past they were little more than a narrative device that was killed off routinely and so forth).

moffat is best man for the job, but it's an impossible job that needs half a dozen writers to churn out scripts at that rate!
 

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^My problem with Moffat isn't the way he plots his episodes (although I do agree generally with people that they've gone off the rails in terms of continuity lately). It's how he writes his female characters and his tendency to take cheap shots at the LGBT crowd. I find him offensive; not untalented.
 

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The poll is severely skewed and therefore meaningless. If you want to do a poll, allow an answer or three that is contrary to what you want because you may realize that your opinion is in the minority. You should expand your poll. Just off the top of my head I suggest...

6. Who is Dr Who?

7. I like the show

8. Clara, now she's one interesting dame.

9. What is wrong with you people?

10. Did I set my drink over there?
 

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There's no answer I can give; none of the options reflect my opinion.

Merc: Actually I recall Old Who having many episodes ending on cliffhangers. They would hurtle from one to the next, for weeks and weeks. Mind, the stories took many episodes back then, and the episodes were shorter.

There was a 25th anniversary commemoration, although it wasn't a big party. "Remembrance of the Daleks" was broadcast right around the anniversary and came complete with the same school and junkyard as the very first episode, recreated sets, and shout-outs to the first broadcast.

50 is a remarkable number of years to keep going, and a number of significance to many people. A fiftieth anniversary special makes a certain amount of sense.

There weren't 30th or 40th anniversary shows because during those years Doctor Who had been cancelled and was off the air and no one ever expected it to come back. Also those weren't big round numbers, less likely to be commemorated anyway.

The tenth anniversary would have been in 1973, a time when commemorating a birthday so minor, especially for a show the BBC was not too sanguine about (it was just barely past the era of erasing the master tapes to save money), was unlikely. The fifth anniversary in 1966 was even less likely -- that was square in the middle of the erasing-the-tapes period, and who celebrates five years on the air even nowadays?

I don't begrudge them a fiftieth anniversary special. I just hope they do it well.
 

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The poll is severely skewed and therefore meaningless. If you want to do a poll, allow an answer or three that is contrary to what you want because you may realize that your opinion is in the minority. You should expand your poll. Just off the top of my head I suggest...

6. Who is Dr Who?

7. I like the show

8. Clara, now she's one interesting dame.

9. What is wrong with you people?

10. Did I set my drink over there?

I have #7 already. :D It's just called #3.

I considered adding #6, but then what would be the point in participating in this thread if you didn't know who Doctor Who was? ;)
 

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thanks Bill, must admit I haven't been enjoying the show since smith took the helm (this coincided with moffat, so not sure if it's writer or actor) but THAT sounds great. still want to see a McCann death scene (for continuity) but if that isn't as cluttered as our current episodes (and looking at all the cast returning and so forth, it might follow the same vein!), then i'm swayed!
 

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Question: Spoiler for what? The 50th anniversary? Previously aired episodes? A particular upcoming episode? I'm curious, but don't want to click depending on what it's a "spoiler" for. . .
 

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Question: Spoiler for what? The 50th anniversary? Previously aired episodes? A particular upcoming episode? I'm curious, but don't want to click depending on what it's a "spoiler" for. . .

It's a possible huge plot point dealing with the 50th anniversary.
 

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Now I'm annoyed. The whole prophecy thing explicitly states the fall of the eleventh. That would be Tennant if the spoiler is right. So, what exactly is the annivesery going to cover? >>Spoiler
Also I thought the Regenerations were a moot point, and that the limit was only imposed by the Gallifrey High Council? If there aren't, than why did Smith mouth off such a large number during that SJA episode?
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