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Jonathan.Bentz

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I'm a recently-realized homosexual (damn the developmental delay from Asperger's), and I've been realizing how much of myself I had to hold back, thus creating a whole slew of problems for my writing without it (as I put a lot of myself in all my books, whether its one character, a situation, or whatever).

I didn't even know what this subforum was until I was looking through the forums, trying to figure out where to post a question. Not sure if this is the right place, but I figure its the best place for now.

Because I live in Utah, I've been exposed to shall we say a less tolerant viewpoint on LGBT and its place in entertainment. I've recently finished a novel where it was revealed (near the end of the book) that the detective is gay. His sexuality will play a much larger role in the following books, but for the first book its in the background. I do drop clues throughout the book, so as to stave off any shock, but I have begun to feel nervous as to how acceptable a gay protagonist is in fiction nowadays, especially if its not directly a gay/lesbian novel (which I assume are primarily romantic ones). If this is an error on my part, I would like to know. I would also like to know if its as accepted as homosexuality seems to be in the world today (minus the anti-LGBT zealots).

Of course, if nothing comes of the current slate of queries I sent out, I might rework the book so its more obvious, since the realization of what I was missing came late in the game, so to speak.

By the way, does that happen to anyone else? They come to a realization about some aspect of their book after writing queries? This is a recurring problem for me, and I was wondering how anyone deals with it if they've sent out queries. Do you just hope you don't get replies?
 

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I have begun to feel nervous as to how acceptable a gay protagonist is in fiction nowadays, especially if its not directly a gay/lesbian novel (which I assume are primarily romantic ones).

It's quite acceptable. Fear not. :)
 

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Homosexual protagonists are absolutely acceptable outside of the romance and LGBT literature. In fantasy and SF, I can think of at least 4 or 5 just on my own bookshelves that would fit into LGBT labels. Some of them are blatantly gay, and others are never explicitly referred to as gay at all, you only can read between the lines based on clues about past/current romantic partners.

Good luck with your querying. :)
 

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It is becoming more common, hopefully will continue to do so. I am going through a small publisher which specifically targets gay readers, teen and adult. In mainstream it can be more difficult to get a gay character published, but mostly if it is a young adult book. The younger the gay character is, the more an agent is likely to think they'll have a hard time finding a market.

In my first book I didn't reveal sexualities until closer to the end, too. For me it was because even though I have been out for a while, I was scared to write gay characters, and because my gay characters were 12 and 13 years old. But in the end it's worked out for the best for me!

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series has a bisexual MC.

There are several books by Cassandra Clare with a bisexual character as well.

Christopher Rice, Anne Rice's son, has had success with his mystery novels. They are not romance, but there are gay MCs.

Patricia Cornwell also writes mysteries with a lesbian minor character, the MC's niece.

Good luck!
 

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I can think of 7-8 detective series where the main character is gay, it is very common in fantasy and sci fi. I think that examples could be found in most genres, those are just the ones I read.
 

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What Kim Fierce said. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was one of the most successful books in the year it was released and an excellent movie as well. The sexuality was of no consequence--what her character was, was totally compelling.

OP, write your character the best way you know how, but make him/her the best ALL-around character you can make. I recently sold a story to an LGBT website where the main character was a lesbian, out and honest about it, but the story didn't explore her sexuality so much as it brought out her mindset. It explores her growth as a person (she's a teenager) through adversity (it's a fantasy novel with a lot of action) and her relationship with another woman she meets along the way. (This is from a straight guy who writes primarily YA Fantasy).

Sort of a long-winded reply, but my point is if you can write a full-blooded character, one the audience can relate to in some way, is interesting, then you've won your battle. Best of luck!
 

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Minority characters should be about more than just their minority status, so that in and of itself is very much the right thing to do

With your example of revealing it later, it makes a point by seeing if readers view the character differently once they find out.

Maybe self-publishing would be a way around mainstream publishers who wouldn't want to handle such material.
 

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Maybe self-publishing would be a way around mainstream publishers who wouldn't want to handle such material.

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Or, he could send his novel off to one of the LGBT sites and see what happens. It's an unfortunate fact of life that a lot of mainstream publishers don't want to handle LGBT novels no matter how well they're written due to the subject material.

With Twisted, I sent it to a few YA publishers, and while they said it was well-written, they didn't accept it due to the nature of a woman-woman relationship which happens roughly two-thirds of the way through the novel. One of the editors of a mainstream site recommended it might do better in the LGBT genre, so I tried a site and they accepted it.

Self-publishing is certainly one route if you're prepared to do all the publicity yourself, the formatting, covers...everything. It doesn't have the greatest rep around unless you're already an established writer (and even then...), but it is certainly one way to do it.

FWIW, OP, write your story, have a few beta readers critique it, and then send it off. Take a chance because you'll never know until you try.
 

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Yeah, it does suck.
Or the appropriate specialty publisher, yes.
just putting self-pub out there, don't want to get into too big a discussion of that, AW has another subforum for it.
 

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I don't think it's as big an issue as many people do.

Diane Duane Door Into Fire/Tale of the 5 series First book published in 1985; male and female same sex relationships

Elizabeth Lynn Chronicles of Tornor Northern Girl/Dancers of Arun/Watchtower Norther Girl was 1980.

Samuel Delany Dhalgren 1974

Nicola Griffith pretty much every book she's written.

Elizabeth Bear in SF/F

Also Jeannette Winterson and and and . . .

I don't think same-sex relationships in mainstream/genre fic are as big an issue as many do.
 

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I think it's great that you're trying to transcend genres. Gay protagonists emerging into mainstream fiction is the literary equivalent of coming out of the closet. It's the only way to move forward! :)
 
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