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Oh wow. That's awesome. I wish I could actually submit something to them, but I really don't have the time.
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Oh wow. That's awesome. I wish I could actually submit something to them, but I really don't have the time.
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I just submitted my novel to Avon Impulse. From reading this thread, it seems they're non-responders -- but that they sometimes do respond? Has anybody heard anything lately from them?
Just curious....
Just curious....
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The only thing about the Harper Voyager open call I'd be wary at is this:
"Can I submit if my manuscript is under consideration with another publisher?
No. Manuscripts that are being considered by other publishers are not eligible for submission."
So you're, in essence, giving them a 3 month exclusive on the work. Because they say if you haven't heard from them in 3 months it's a no. Not a deal breaker, but something to keep in mind IMHO.
"Can I submit if my manuscript is under consideration with another publisher?
No. Manuscripts that are being considered by other publishers are not eligible for submission."
So you're, in essence, giving them a 3 month exclusive on the work. Because they say if you haven't heard from them in 3 months it's a no. Not a deal breaker, but something to keep in mind IMHO.
Well, to be honest, I don't blame the publisher. Going through an open call like this, I suspect they will have thousands of submissions. I doubt they would be happy to find out something they spent time and energy on has already been sold elsewhere.
There is also the fact that if you have other publishers looking at the work, they too should be told that you are submitting to Voyager or other publishers. Its a professional courtesy thingy...
There is also the fact that if you have other publishers looking at the work, they too should be told that you are submitting to Voyager or other publishers. Its a professional courtesy thingy...
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I believe this was the same condition as the... I think it was Del Rey... open call. Three months is actually pretty fast for a publisher.
Okay, just subbed in the Voyager Form page for a Young Adult SF. The synopsis box states 1,500 max for characters, and the comments seem to think this is a mistake because the query box allows 4,500. It's turned around. However, my very long synopsis passed at the max count and I received a confirmation email in my junk box.
The YA novel length has me biting my nails--they say 70,000 minimum, and mine sits at 68,500. I guess I'm okay.
Now, can we submit more than one manuscript?
And for you authors who have an agent, touch base with them and make sure you're not cross-subbing the same manuscript.
tri
The YA novel length has me biting my nails--they say 70,000 minimum, and mine sits at 68,500. I guess I'm okay.
Now, can we submit more than one manuscript?
And for you authors who have an agent, touch base with them and make sure you're not cross-subbing the same manuscript.
tri
I believe you can submit more than one--just use a different form for each sub (but double check the guidelines!) And good luck! 
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There's a discussion thread on this submission call in the YA forum--I just posted there with my misgivings. Basically, for a Big 6 publisher, this is second-class publication--digital only, no advance. I always worry when big publishers create lines that enable them to treat authors differently from the norm, especially where that involves limiting their risk.
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Looks like Avon, through Impulse, is looking for new voices through "NaRoWriMo" this month. Just thought I'd post if anyone's interested.
http://www.avonromance.com/tag/narowrimo
http://www.avonromance.com/tag/narowrimo
In case anyone is wondering about Avon Impulse, I just got a form rejection after 4 months. Already signed the manuscript elsewhere.
Have one more thing I'm working to submit to them. Will give it the old college try but if they're still so unresponsive, probably will move on.
Have one more thing I'm working to submit to them. Will give it the old college try but if they're still so unresponsive, probably will move on.
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Avon Impulse lists "New Adult" in their Wish List, so if yours could work as that, then go for it. Here is the latest:
https://www.facebook.com/avonromance?sk=app_208195102528120&app_data
Also, in case you hadn't seen this one, Random House has a new digital imprint for New Adult (Flirt) where you don't have to be agented:
http://www.atrandom.com/eoriginals/submission.php
https://www.facebook.com/avonromance?sk=app_208195102528120&app_data
Also, in case you hadn't seen this one, Random House has a new digital imprint for New Adult (Flirt) where you don't have to be agented:
http://www.atrandom.com/eoriginals/submission.php
From the Authors Guild today:
The figures in a nutshell:
This might need its own thread, because the AG is acting like this is industry-wide.
http://aardvarknow.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/HCslide.gif
The figures in a nutshell:
ETA: The chart also lists $3.85 total for manufacturing, distribution and returns associated with the hardcover.
This might need its own thread, because the AG is acting like this is industry-wide.
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I agree. When I saw this I told people: this is so unsurprising, it's surprising.
Note that as a percentage of retail price, the e-royalty is actually slightly higher (17% vs 15%). As a percentage of the publisher's gross take on a title, not so much (30.6% vs 25%).
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Not I. I got slammed by them. However, Random House is a closer negotiation at the present but that could go bust too.
How long did it take for them to get back to you? Also, what do you mean by 'slammed'? Was it a mean rejection letter? Or does slammed just mean they said no and I'm way behind on my lingo
?Good luck with Random!
How long did it take for them to get back to you? Also, what do you mean by 'slammed'? Was it a mean rejection letter? Or does slammed just mean they said no and I'm way behind on my lingo
Good luck with Random!
It was about three to four weeks response time. Very fast. And the reason I say slammed is emotionally charged, I guess, because they rejected all three of my books at the same time (minutes apart). Probably the same editor. My fault--I should have spread them out a bit. If they didn't like my formatting, query or style with the first book, it was an easy task to reject the next two without even looking at them. My gut tells me that's exactly what happened here.
The first book got me four agent offers, the two YA titles pulled 11 contract offers, a grand prize win and a film option. Yet, it could have well been me, veering off the established guidelines and getting the boot for that.
tri
Thanks for answering... sorry about the 3 r's in one day, that IS tough. Your analysis sounds entirely possible. Live and learn, right? But it sounds like you've got options, which is great . Wish you the best!
. Wish you the best!