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Okay, here's my tale of woe (which really isn't that bad, I know. But I need to vent and could use your thoughts.)...

About three years ago, I finished my first novel-length story. Yippie!!

I showed it to a few people and one of them recommended that I speak to this agent friend of her's. I checked the agent out. She's well-known and successful, but not in my genre. She mainly does nonfiction. I wrote a fantasy. Still, I thought...what the heck? At the very least, I'd get yet another rejection letter.

As it turns out, the agent loved what I wrote. Really dug the main character and the twist at the end. She loved it and wanted to represent it.

Groovy!

So I signed with her.

After making the edits and so forth that she wanted, the agent sent my work to seven publishers. Five of them asked to see it. Four rejected it outright. The fifth actually called me, said she loved the characters and my voice, and offered a ton of suggestions to get the story moving faster. She literally talked with me for a hour! So I was over the moon. She then told me to resubmit it. Which we did a few months back.

No word from the fifth editor even though my agent has e-mailed her about it. :(

Moreover, my agent has recently submitted the manuscript to two other publishers...both of whom didn't want to see it.

Now my agent is talking about self-publishing the book.

In short, it feels like she's given up on it.

I'm very new to this game, but I figured that she'd approach dozens of publishers...from the biggest of the big, to new indie shops. Am I demanding too much?

Should I try to get another agent who works within my genre? And if so...should I "dump" my current agent first and then go hunting for somebody else or should I ask around, see if there's any interest, and then jump ship after I have found somebody?

Ugh...I have nobody to really talk to about this. So I'd love to hear what you all think!
 

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First, sympathies because this is a tough situation. And I'm sorry to say that it's difficult to advise without knowing the particulars. But....

It's possible that the agent, not usually repping your genre, didn't really know the best editors to submit it to. If that is the case, and there are still a good number of houses that rep your genre that haven't seen it, you might be able to entice another agent. But, it sounds like it has been seen by a number of houses that do rep your genre, and you had an R&R that didn't work out, which seems to suggest that she did know at least which houses to sub to.

The problem you have is that she has shopped it to 9 houses. If that's most or all of the large/medium trade publishers in your genre, it's going to be hard to get another agent interested. Because its been shopped around and rejected. Another agent likely can't go back to those houses, at least not for a few years.

Now, you could take your chances, sever ties with your agent and try querying, but it is going to be a long shot that another agent will be interested if your current agent shopped to the houses the prospective agent would have shopped to. So, first you need to research to see what houses haven't seen it of the major trade publishers. And you might want t research respectable smaller presses, too. So that if you want to talk to her about that, you are ready to talk.

The sad reality is that some agents shop books harder than others. And you may very well have other houses that would be viable that she either doesn't know or doesn't want o shop to because they pay little to no advance.

But it's also possible that she has come to believe that it's unlikely to sell - especially if she's hearing the same reason for rejection over and over. And in that case, your options probably are to shelve it until you have sold something else, shop it to smaller presses (either after you terminate her representation or with her approval), or self-publish.

Only you can decide which is the best option for you. And you need to make an objective decision, and probably even talk to her more before you do.

If you do decide to seek another agent you need to sever ties with your current agent first, according to what your contract requires. Do not seek another agent while represented - that is not cool, likely violates your contract and is a fast way to make yourself persona non grata to agents. So you need to see what your contract says about how to terminate representation and whether you need to wait to seek another agent, etc. And you will need from your agent a complete list of the editors she submitted to, what they saw (pitch, partial, full, etc.), and what specifically they said.

But I would first suggest talking to your agent. Find out why she doesn't want to approach more publishers, and see what she thinks about approaching some smaller presses if she hasn't considered it. It may be that she has reasons she hasn't shared, or it could be she has lost faith in the manuscript. but you need more information before you make any decisions.

good luck!

~suki
 

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Thank you so much Suki. That all makes a great deal of sense. Also, the thought of letting my story sit for a couple years or so before trying again is far more appealing than just throwing it away.

Thanks for your help. I'm starting to feel better. :)
 

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Thank you so much Suki. That all makes a great deal of sense. Also, the thought of letting my story sit for a couple years or so before trying again is far more appealing than just throwing it away.

Thanks for your help. I'm starting to feel better. :)

The best thing you can do right now is educate yourself.

Figure out who are the reputable publishers in your genre.

Then schedule a call with your agent to discuss what the next steps are. Ask her about any houses you all haven't yet approached. Ask her about the rejections, and if they saw the manuscript or rejected the pitch. Etc.

Try not to be too emotional - if you make it clear you want to make informed decisions (as opposed to blaming her), she may very well discuss with you more easily why she thinks it didn't sell, and how well she knew the editors she pitched it to.

And in the meantime, work on something else. if you do decide to sever ties, your best bet at landing a different agent is with a different book. Then, if that agent wants to represent you, you can tell them about this other book and its submission history.

But either way, start with doing your homework, then talking with your agent.

~suki
 

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There is something else I'd like to write.

Of course, not being emotional is the tough part, especially after having such high hopes.

Thanks again, Suki. I really appreciate your kind words.
 

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Always be working on the next thing. It not only shows potential agents you're a career writer, it's the best way to shake off the inevitable rejection woes.

I agree with suki. Have a frank talk with your agent about whether she's into your book for the long run or would rather set it aside. You need and deserve an enthusiastic partner.

On the practical side, if your current agent has already subbed your MS to most of the major SFF houses, it may be difficult to get another agent FOR THIS MS. (Yes, back to that BE WORKING ON THE NEXT ONE, ALWAYS.)

If current agent will keep subbing the first MS, including to small presses, that would be great. You want to exhaust all reasonable possibilities, even if you have to be the one to do the research and suggest the houses to her.

Next time, look first and foremost at agents with strong ties to your genre. And as soon as you have a new MS to query, it may be next time. After a clean and gracious departure from the current agent, that is.

Cross your publishing bridges waving polite goodbyes. Never burn them. ;)
 

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I completely agree with Suki. It seems like agents can vary drastically in their approach and communication style. There could be a number of different reasons why she isn't submitting to other publishers. I'd talk to her first.
 

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Some agents don't bother with smaller publishers. Maybe because they don't have the same budget behind them. If you self-publish then there's no reason to keep her on. She didn't do anything.
 

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You have a bad, and to my mind, an unethical agent. What she's doing is very common now, and it should be illegal. One day soon it may be.

Whatever the reputation of this agent, find another as soon as possible.
 
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