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LBlankenship · 04-27-2012, 06:22 PM

I won a query submission from Vickie Motter back in February, sent it on the 26th... sent a follow-up note (with re-submission, per her blog) eight weeks later (this Monday)...

At what point to you put down the silence as a "no"?

Krista G. · 04-27-2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBlankenship

I won a query submission from Vickie Motter back in February, sent it on the 26th... sent a follow-up note (with re-submission, per her blog) eight weeks later (this Monday)...

At what point to you put down the silence as a "no"?

I checked QueryTracker, and it looks like she sends quick requests but slower rejections. She's requested a few manuscripts this last week from queries sent this last week, but the last rejections she sent were in mid-March, and those were to queries sent in mid-February.

I think she does reject, eventually, but at this point, you can probably infer what her response will be. That said, did the query submission you won include a promise of feedback or a quick turnaround? If that's the case, perhaps you're getting caught in her spam filter...

Good luck with this and other queries (and all your requests)!

happywritermom · 04-27-2012, 08:37 PM

Lblankenship, you submitted a full manuscript, right? If so, two months is certainly not an automatic "no." I usually wait a good three months before even nudging.
If you think there is a possibility your manuscript got caught in the spam filter, go ahead and ask via email. It won't hurt.
Given all this stuff about minimum cuts though, I would tread carefully.
In my opinion, that kind of arrangement gives agents less incentive to push for the big six or to hold a manuscript until the market is ready. No matter how little you get, they still get a sizable chunk.

Drachen Jager · 04-28-2012, 01:56 AM

I think she's just been busy lately. I've been waiting on news from her for a month and a half now.

Did you format your manuscript for her e-reader? She has an article on her blog about how she likes manuscripts formatted, it goes beyond the usual 1" margins and such.

LBlankenship · 04-30-2012, 12:45 AM

Thanks for the responses.

No, it wasn't a full MS, and I foolishly formatted it according to her agency's guidelines not her blog's. The contest gave me a specific subject line to use, but I guess it may have gotten caught in the spam filter.

After reading most of the thread here, I'm not exactly on the edge of my seat. Hiring an editor and self-pubbing is looking more and more viable...

IrisFlower81 · 07-20-2012, 10:22 PM

Queried Vickie Motter 7/18. Got a request for the first 100 pages on 7/20. Am super excited, and keeping my fingers crossed!

IrisFlower81 · 07-26-2012, 09:42 PM

Rejection for the partial on 7/26. At least she's fast.

JulianaHaygert · 09-06-2012, 02:35 AM

My NA sisters and I are hosting a New Adult pitch contest with agent Vickie Motter today. There are still 6 spots open!
http://naalley.blogspot.com/2012/09/...ki-motter.html

worddance · 10-03-2012, 04:40 AM

Yep. Vickie Motter is fast. Queried at 2:00pm on Saturday, 9/29.

Request for 100 pages 3 hours later.

Rejected on Sunday, 9/30.

Ouch.

Luzoni · 01-01-2013, 12:14 AM

I had Margaret Bail ask for my full manuscript. I'm looking at Query tracker for the submissions times, but it says that's for partials. Submitting the whole manuscript isn't a partial, right? Sorry for the stupid question, I'm really new to agents.

Williebee · 01-01-2013, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzoni

I had Margaret Bail ask for my full manuscript. I'm looking at Query tracker for the submissions times, but it says that's for partials. Submitting the whole manuscript isn't a partial, right? Sorry for the stupid question, I'm really new to agents.

No worries. No, a full is not a partial. So, yes, send the full, as requested. No, don't expect the response time to be as fast as for a partial. It might be, but don't expect it. Good luck!

HFgal · 01-06-2013, 08:26 PM

From this thread, it seems like this agency is legit, but I found it unusual that on the website's home page, the first thing they are advertising is that they offer a "full suite of literary services" including Literary Management but also:

Book Development
Internet Marketing for Authors
Classes for Writers
The First Fifty - new service!

Isn't this the conflict of interest that I've read about? Like, it's in their financial interest to tell you that your MS needs some work, because they offer that service for a fee?

It seems that most of the other agency websites I've seen say, We are agents. Period.

victoriastrauss · 01-07-2013, 06:21 AM

Also see my post from last year. They charge a minimum commission of $1,500.

- Victoria

Chris P · 02-02-2013, 10:22 PM

Thank God for AW. I saw the "First Fifty" thing and it sounded all kinds of fishy. "Shoemaker, stick to thy last!" comes to mind here. Be a book doctor or represent authors. Trying to be too much to too many only looks like a grab for money. I used to do copyedits/proofreading (not content or structure, just grammar, spelling, formatting, etc.) on a contract basis, and I stopped taking fiction jobs because I didn't feel right taking more money for editing than the author was likely to make writing. As I said, this just gives me all sorts of bad feelings.

And a minimum commission? That's like me charging the casino to offset my potential losses. This agency will go on my "Do Not Query" list. Too many other agents don't raise these concerns.

04-27-2012, 06:22 PM	#226
LBlankenship Space cadet Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Near Washington, DC Posts: 623	I won a query submission from Vickie Motter back in February, sent it on the 26th... sent a follow-up note (with re-submission, per her blog) eight weeks later (this Monday)... At what point to you put down the silence as a "no"? __________________ DISCIPLE a hard fantasy romance Available at all major e-retailers Part II on sale NOW! Samples at my book blog: Disciples of the Fount • Writing blog: Notes from the Jovian frontier • Twitter: LBlankenship_sf Creative Services for self-publishers: covers, ebook formatting, and more

04-28-2012, 01:56 AM	#229
Drachen Jager Professor of applied misanthropy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 10,305	I think she's just been busy lately. I've been waiting on news from her for a month and a half now. Did you format your manuscript for her e-reader? She has an article on her blog about how she likes manuscripts formatted, it goes beyond the usual 1" margins and such. __________________ When people tell you something’s wrong or doesn’t work for them, they're almost always right. When they tell you exactly what they think is wrong and how to fix it, they're almost always wrong.—Gaiman The story must strike a nerve—in me. My heart should start pounding when I hear the first line in my head. I start trembling at the risk.—Sontag Creativity is the residue of wasted time.—Einstein

04-30-2012, 12:45 AM	#230
LBlankenship Space cadet Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Near Washington, DC Posts: 623	Thanks for the responses. No, it wasn't a full MS, and I foolishly formatted it according to her agency's guidelines not her blog's. The contest gave me a specific subject line to use, but I guess it may have gotten caught in the spam filter. After reading most of the thread here, I'm not exactly on the edge of my seat. Hiring an editor and self-pubbing is looking more and more viable... __________________ DISCIPLE a hard fantasy romance Available at all major e-retailers Part II on sale NOW! Samples at my book blog: Disciples of the Fount • Writing blog: Notes from the Jovian frontier • Twitter: LBlankenship_sf Creative Services for self-publishers: covers, ebook formatting, and more

07-20-2012, 10:22 PM	#231
IrisFlower81 Flower Girl Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 137	Queried Vickie Motter 7/18. Got a request for the first 100 pages on 7/20. Am super excited, and keeping my fingers crossed! __________________ My blog: http://ellenmrozek.wordpress.com My Projects: The Recruited--YA thriller (querying--yikes!) Positively Anonymous--NA contemporary (querying) Facing the Music--YA contemporary (re-writing)

07-26-2012, 09:42 PM	#232
IrisFlower81 Flower Girl Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 137	Rejection for the partial on 7/26. At least she's fast. __________________ My blog: http://ellenmrozek.wordpress.com My Projects: The Recruited--YA thriller (querying--yikes!) Positively Anonymous--NA contemporary (querying) Facing the Music--YA contemporary (re-writing)

04-27-2012, 08:37 PM	#228
happywritermom practical experience, FTW Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,043	Lblankenship, you submitted a full manuscript, right? If so, two months is certainly not an automatic "no." I usually wait a good three months before even nudging. If you think there is a possibility your manuscript got caught in the spam filter, go ahead and ask via email. It won't hurt. Given all this stuff about minimum cuts though, I would tread carefully. In my opinion, that kind of arrangement gives agents less incentive to push for the big six or to hold a manuscript until the market is ready. No matter how little you get, they still get a sizable chunk.

09-06-2012, 02:35 AM	#233
JulianaHaygert figuring it all out Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 74	My NA sisters and I are hosting a New Adult pitch contest with agent Vickie Motter today. There are still 6 spots open! http://naalley.blogspot.com/2012/09/...ki-motter.html __________________ www.julianahaygert.com @juliana_haygert Group Blog: NA Alley

10-03-2012, 04:40 AM	#234
worddance New Fish; Learning About Thick Skin Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 18	Yep. Vickie Motter is fast. Queried at 2:00pm on Saturday, 9/29. Request for 100 pages 3 hours later. Rejected on Sunday, 9/30. Ouch.

01-01-2013, 12:14 AM	#235
Luzoni practical experience, FTW Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: USA: North of Hell and South of Paradise Posts: 186	I had Margaret Bail ask for my full manuscript. I'm looking at Query tracker for the submissions times, but it says that's for partials. Submitting the whole manuscript isn't a partial, right? Sorry for the stupid question, I'm really new to agents. __________________ 3 finished SF novels: "Sisters In Sorrow"--Querying. "Heights of Helios"--Querying. "Once on a Blue Moon"-- On Hiatus 1 Horror Fantasy in Editing 2 SF-Adventure WIP 1 YA Fantasy WIP 1 SF-Romance/Erotica WIP 1 Medical memoir under contemplation

01-06-2013, 08:26 PM	#237
HFgal Who wants a cup of tea? Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: 19th century Posts: 158	From this thread, it seems like this agency is legit, but I found it unusual that on the website's home page, the first thing they are advertising is that they offer a "full suite of literary services" including Literary Management but also: Book Development Internet Marketing for Authors Classes for Writers The First Fifty - new service! Isn't this the conflict of interest that I've read about? Like, it's in their financial interest to tell you that your MS needs some work, because they offer that service for a fee? It seems that most of the other agency websites I've seen say, We are agents. Period.

01-07-2013, 06:21 AM	#238
victoriastrauss Writer Beware Goddess Absolute Sage Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Far from the madding crowd Posts: 6,313	Also see my post from last year. They charge a minimum commission of $1,500. - Victoria __________________ Victoria Strauss www.victoriastrauss.com Writer Beware: www.writerbeware.com Writer Beware Blog: www.accrispin.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter

02-02-2013, 10:22 PM	#239
Chris P Likes metaphors mixed, not stirred Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Entebbe, Uganda Posts: 9,277	Thank God for AW. I saw the "First Fifty" thing and it sounded all kinds of fishy. "Shoemaker, stick to thy last!" comes to mind here. Be a book doctor or represent authors. Trying to be too much to too many only looks like a grab for money. I used to do copyedits/proofreading (not content or structure, just grammar, spelling, formatting, etc.) on a contract basis, and I stopped taking fiction jobs because I didn't feel right taking more money for editing than the author was likely to make writing. As I said, this just gives me all sorts of bad feelings. And a minimum commission? That's like me charging the casino to offset my potential losses. This agency will go on my "Do Not Query" list. Too many other agents don't raise these concerns. __________________ Short Fiction and Novel in the AW Library Shorts on sub: 12 Now available! Adventures of Duke and Eddie Querying! Resingled Querying! Nyasaland 68K/90K Write on, Brother! (blog)

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