Is this piracy?

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benbradley

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Are you sure the person isn't asking how to convert files he already owns so they're usable on kindle?

No, I'm not sure; that's why I asked. I just sounds tacky and wrong; it does sound as if he wants to get free or cheaper copies from somewhere else and vonvert them to Kindle.
Are ebooks priced higher for Kindle than for other formats? Not that it matters in this case.

A google of a unique string of words from the quoted text finds the thread, and someone (apparently aruna, whom the thread's OP will surely call a Boo Bird!) has responded appropriately that this is an attempt at piracy. If it helps remove any doubt about this person's intentions, the thread title is "Free ebook sharing site required."
 
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I did not expect to find the funneh in this thread. It did, however, kick me upside the arse.
 

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Are ebooks priced higher for Kindle than for other formats?

Sometimes a given site (Fictionwise, for instance) or an author's own site might have a sale (Diane Duane recently had a spectacular sale).

If it helps remove any doubt about this person's intentions, the thread title is "Free ebook sharing site required."
Well, presuming they don't mean something like manybooks.net (which is awesome), then, yeah, they want to rip people off. (Manybooks.net offers books in Kindle format, anyway.)
 
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What gets me here is that £5.99 is considered expensive... it's less than a paperback! A good few pounds less than a typical, newly released paperback sold without any discount.... Now, there have been cases where I have seen ebooks for a lot more which strikes me as poor marketing strategy if you really wanted to move your readers into the ebook format but this is not expensive for a popular author.

I suspect the poster here is comparing the price to the self published ebooks and some small press epubs which charge a lot less for the files.

The discussion about ebook pricing is probably best had elsewhere, however...

It does look like they are trying to subtly ask for places to get pirated books. Though my response to a thread like that would be to suggest they check out Project Gutenberg and the Amazon free ebooks as well as any other legitimate not pirate sites I could find.
 

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Hmm, I see the points: e.g. freebie sites, and "sharing." I assume that "sharing" refers to peer-to-peer sites? (Sorry, I'm guessing here.)

Yeah, it does seem super shady. And I'm not sure how much that is in US dollars, but it sure doesn't seem like a whole lot to pay for a book. I mean, when I find a decent author that I really like, I want to support that author by purchasing.
 
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Ah, so the DMCA lets you strip DRM for personal use? That's good.

There's a lot of ambiguity there, actually. Many people argue that the DMCA, as written, forbids any circumvention of DRM, even for personal use. In any case, while individual consumers are unlikely to have any problems, even if it is illegal, the people who make the tools to do it have often been attacked -- look at DVD Shrink. They had a ton of problems offering their DVD ripping software.
 

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There's a lot of ambiguity there, actually. Many people argue that the DMCA, as written, forbids any circumvention of DRM, even for personal use. In any case, while individual consumers are unlikely to have any problems, even if it is illegal, the people who make the tools to do it have often been attacked -- look at DVD Shrink. They had a ton of problems offering their DVD ripping software.

I think the issue here is: it's only a problem if you circumvent DRM and someone finds out about it... in other words, if you bypass DRM in order to transfer a file from one ereader to another you are unlikely to come under the eye of anyone looking for rights violations. However, if you upload the file to a torrent site, then chances are you will be caught.

It's like some elements of kinky sex can be prosecuted as GBH but they only get prosecuted if one of the participants presses charges or you do it in a place where the police have no choice but to 'see it' and take action. The acts are illegal but you won't get charged if the police never see you do it...

So it is not so much illegal to mess with DRM but some things you might do afterwards are illegal and breaking DRM might be construed as 'suspicious' if anyone finds out about it.

Oh, and referring to an earlier point, £5.99 is about $12 - £14, depending on what the current exchange rate is. The usual conversion is to roughly halve dollars to get pounds. Though there are also issues of relative economies to take into account here - some things here have been expensive for a long time that may well be a lot cheaper in the US (I think books are one of them)

And yes, I do beleive we have an issue of undervaluing ebooks...
 
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