Months to a year for editor's response?

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If an agent is reputable and has good relationships with editors how long does it normally take for editors to respond to an agent's submission? I've heard that, these days, it is taking longer and longer, months and in some cases up to a year. Is this the trend or does it depend on the agent or genre etc?
 

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It can take anywhere from hours to years. There's no baseline because every book is different. The market changes quickly and response times reflect those changes. If you happen to sub exactly what a particular editor is looking for, they might snap it up quickly, while something that's still a wonderful book, but not a "hot" genre may take longer to get through acquisitions.
 

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My agent commented a few weeks ago that books were disappearing into publishers for months and months without response.
 

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This is IMHO a trend.
When my first novel went around in 2007/8 we heard back in weeks not months.
 

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I agree. I'm used to hearing back in days for agented submissions; weeks, I can just about put up with. But years? FFS.
 

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Any idea why this is? Is it because editors would now rather sit on a MS rather than saying no? Or is it a resource issue and there are too few editors servicing too many submissions?
 

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My agent also commented that editors 'are buying one book a year', so I would see it as everyone being very cautious and risk averse in what they're buying.
 

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I agree. I'm used to hearing back in days for agented submissions; weeks, I can just about put up with. But years? FFS.


I know someone who waited four and five months, respectively, for responses to a couple of agented submissions. That was this summer. The other responses came in somewhat faster, but they still took months, not weeks.

(This is verified, true information, although it's just one person's experience.)
 

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A lot depends on who your agent is, and who they submit to. An agent I know takes so few new clients on that when she took a new client on this year most of the editors who received the book read it the same day. That book was submitted and signed up, in three countries, within a month.

Mostly, though, I'd say it's taking longer because editors are responsible for more books than they used to be; and there's a lot more work for them to do, too, as they're also responsible for more of the stages of editing now.
 

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Any idea why this is? Is it because editors would now rather sit on a MS rather than saying no? Or is it a resource issue and there are too few editors servicing too many submissions?

I don't think most editors WANT to sit on a manuscript. It's kind of like having the dirty dishes pile up in your sink--it's another lingering task that's left on your to-do list, reminding you of how much you have to do and making you feel guilty because it needs to get done. So you'd rather get the no out there as quickly as possible, because it actually feels good not to have things lingering (even though there's always something else waiting to linger...)

But! Sure, in the past 5 years, as publishers move to electronic submissions, and as writers move from the typewriter to the computer, it's become easier (and cheaper) than ever to write and submit a manuscript. And because it's become easier and cheaper, publishers and agents see not only an increase in submissions, but an increase in mis-directed submissions (in other words, submissions that aren't appropriate for the editor or agent at all. I get at least 2-3 YA submissions and 1 non-fiction submission a week--we publisher neither of those. And I don't get nearly the volume many publishers and agents get).

So with the increase in sheer volume, it's going to take that much longer to go through and respond. Even with a form rejection. And many editorial departments have been downsized in the past five years, so there are less editors going through more submissions.

All of those things equal a longer response time needed. I don't think most of us want to take a long time responding, but it's just a matter of not enough hours in the day--even for a profession that leaves the office and then does more work at home (which is where most editing and submission reading take place--after regular business hours, at home)
 

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I'm wondering more about requested material. I've heard too many stories about whole manuscripts being sent in, not to the general slushpile, but to specific editors from specific agents. And then the material sits in some odd half-life for a year or three.

I'm not in that boat, and I have no idea how I'd handle it. The knee-jerk reflex would be to withdraw the mms from the publisher, and fire the agent.
But what happens if it's a really great publisher, and the story is on hold because they love it and want to find a place for it?

How long should writers and agents keep requested material in limbo like this?
 

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Assuming the submissions were made by an agent, then the writer should talk to the agent before making any decisions. The agent should know what's usual, and what's acceptable, and should guide their client in the matter.

If the submission was made by a writer--well then. It's entirely up to them how they play it.
 

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I don't think most editors WANT to sit on a manuscript. It's kind of like having the dirty dishes pile up in your sink--it's another lingering task that's left on your to-do list, reminding you of how much you have to do and making you feel guilty because it needs to get done. So you'd rather get the no out there as quickly as possible, because it actually feels good not to have things lingering (even though there's always something else waiting to linger...)

But! Sure, in the past 5 years, as publishers move to electronic submissions, and as writers move from the typewriter to the computer, it's become easier (and cheaper) than ever to write and submit a manuscript. And because it's become easier and cheaper, publishers and agents see not only an increase in submissions, but an increase in mis-directed submissions (in other words, submissions that aren't appropriate for the editor or agent at all. I get at least 2-3 YA submissions and 1 non-fiction submission a week--we publisher neither of those. And I don't get nearly the volume many publishers and agents get).

So with the increase in sheer volume, it's going to take that much longer to go through and respond. Even with a form rejection. And many editorial departments have been downsized in the past five years, so there are less editors going through more submissions.

All of those things equal a longer response time needed. I don't think most of us want to take a long time responding, but it's just a matter of not enough hours in the day--even for a profession that leaves the office and then does more work at home (which is where most editing and submission reading take place--after regular business hours, at home)

Thanks for the insight, Angela. What propels projects to the head of your reading queue? Submissions from specific agents? 'Hot' topics/genres?
 

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Thanks for the insight, Angela. What propels projects to the head of your reading queue? Submissions from specific agents? 'Hot' topics/genres?

I was on a panel at Rocky Mountain Fiction Writers conference this past weekend, and a YA editor there said he feels like he *should* read slush in order it's received, but in reality, he does read out of order when subs come in for the subgenres he particularly is looking for at the time. I think that's true of most editors/agents.

At Carina Press, a few things propel the project to the head of the queue: agented submissions, submissions in genres we're particularly looking to acquire at the time (and it changes what those are), returned revise & resubmit requests, and submissions targeted at a particular editor within Carina Press. Also, if a particularly good query letter catches my eye and makes the book look intriguing, I'll pass that on to an editor out of order.

Otherwise, I do assign submissions to editors in order of receipt.
 

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I was on a panel at Rocky Mountain Fiction Writers conference this past weekend, and a YA editor there said he feels like he *should* read slush in order it's received, but in reality, he does read out of order when subs come in for the subgenres he particularly is looking for at the time. I think that's true of most editors/agents.

At Carina Press, a few things propel the project to the head of the queue: agented submissions, submissions in genres we're particularly looking to acquire at the time (and it changes what those are), returned revise & resubmit requests, and submissions targeted at a particular editor within Carina Press. Also, if a particularly good query letter catches my eye and makes the book look intriguing, I'll pass that on to an editor out of order.

Otherwise, I do assign submissions to editors in order of receipt.

And would you prioritize submissions from specific agents? i.e. putting them ahead of the queue of other agents?
 

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And would you prioritize submissions from specific agents? i.e. putting them ahead of the queue of other agents?

Yes, I suppose we do, especially those agents we have an established relationship with, or who have an established reputation.