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I've been reading a few of the threads on here, mostly because I'm trying to get a feel for what 'science-fiction' is. I kind of strayed away from the sci-fi genre when I was younger, mostly because I didn't like it, wasn't so much into science as I was discovering new (and completely different) worlds. But now, I think I may have stumbled into writing a science fiction novel...only, I'm not entirely sure if I have.

See, one idea I've been toying with for years is the concept of 'Gifted' individuals, kind of like that TV show Heroes. I admit, I've only watched two episodes of the thing, and I can safely say that there is more 'science' in my novel idea. By that I mean there are two-wheeled cars and instant identification devices in stores and such places that only have to scan your face to give you access to your personal accounts and such, artificially intelligent weapon/trackers that mimic real life and take the form of just about anything to get them close to their targets, and things like that. There's also a technogenius who is sort of 'one' with technology, so having a bit more science is a given.

but is that all that matters to categorize this as science fiction?

additionally, I should add that that wasn't the story I had in mind when I began this thread. That one is a bit more science fiction than anything else, really. No, the story I had in mind concerns a sort of futuristic version of earth after an apocalypse or like event, in which humans like in technology-infused nature dwellings (caves, giant trees, that sort of thing) with voice activated appliances (well, not appliances, really, because for some reason they refuse to be written into this story) and whatnot, but in which they've eschewed (always wanted to use that word) cars and cement and iron buildings, telephones and such. Also, there are dragons. I'm still thrown as to whether or not these dragons are a result of genetic experimentation that is somehow linked to the apocalyptic event that changed everything, or if they just, like, appeared from some sort of evolutionary fluke. And I don't believe in evolution, so I don't have a clue as to how I'd explain that angle. There's also a bit of magic in there, in the way that the dragons choose their riders, but thats really the only instance. I'm on the fence on whether or not these dragons can communicate with their humans, mostly because I like the idea of each animal having a voice, but I have also seen How To Train Your Dragon about thirty times, and don't laugh, but it's shown me a whole different dimension of communication between man and beast.

What I want to know (and if you've read this far you are an amazing, AMAZING person who should be showered with all the desires of your sweet tooth) is does the magic, as little as it is, disqualify this story from the science-fiction genre? I figure if it did, then it'd just be science-fiction/fantasy, but I really want to see people's opinions, and I like making threads, and its 11:07 here and I can't sleep, and this questions has somehow wormed its way into my muse, and shriveled it into almost nothing, and i want to see if getting an answer will bring it back to life.
 

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Read a Dragonriders of Pern novel--science fiction about dragons who form a speshul bond with their chosen humans.

I do feel you will have a pretty hard time writing SF without evolution in it, as it's a foundation of biological science. (Not trying to start a fruitless debate, just pointing out that it'll be hard going.)
 

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I think I read a Dragon Riders story when I was younger, and I read the entire Eragon series, so I was intentionally remaining indecisive about the bond. I didn't want to do something that was already overdone.

And I know *moans*. I figure I can just research what I need and summarize, I guess...
 

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This may not answer your original question, but if you feel like you're inclined towards writing science fiction and/or fantasy, you'd do well to get into the habit of reading lots of it. This will help you learn to distinguish between the two genres (and how they can be / have been mixed up) and give you a good idea of what's already been done, which will help you to create something of your own that's original and fresh.
 

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There's a fuzzy boundary between science fiction and fantasy. Typically if there are more cool technology things and less magic, it would be marketed as science fiction. (There's no dash in the phrase when you write it out.)

I'm kind of boggled by not believing in evolution, but, I don't think dragons would naturally evolve in a post-apocalyptic setting, I would find it more plausible if they had been scientifically or magically created. If your story is humorous at all it is much easier to get away with deliberately absurd explanations or no explanations of why various elements are present. You could, for example, say that somebody was using genetic technology to revive dinosaurs ala Jurassic Park, but then a bit of magic messed up the process and dragons came out instead. Or that they were genetically engineered to be pets, but turned out much bigger than anticipated.
 

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Science Fiction is very broad and like any other genre, it's really just a marketing container. Don't worry about what genre it is, just write it the way you envision it. Let your agent figure out how to sell it. If you find yourself obsessing over anything but the story and your characters, then chances are you're just avoiding doing the writing.

Still, if you look at Star Wars, purists will tell you that it's a "space opera" not science fiction where most publishers are going to label it as science fiction. Star Wars contains elements of both magic (the force), science babble (that makes no sense) "It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs" kind of crap, and very little, if any, science. It's just set in space.

Anyway, just write it, write it well, and then figure out what it is.
 

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The descriptions I've always gone by for sci-fi and fantasy are pretty straightforward. If it's possible that, at some point in the future (or in the past), whatever you're writing about might actually exist or be able to happen, it's science fiction. If not, it's fantasy. Which, interestingly enough, makes Star Wars fantasy. YMMV.
 
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