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Thanks y'all. If it's of any interest, I deleted the pages having to do with "they who shall remain nameless (twsrn)" and as soon as I can figure out how to do it, I am deleting the vids I made about them from Youtube.

And I made a decision last night re my first two books, the ones with Xlibris Publishing. I have had nothing but lies and put offs from them ever since I hooked up with them. They are trying to convince me that despite one million five hundred thousand email ads being sent out...despite the fact that the books are listed world wide and have been for a year...despite the fact that they are listed through places like b and a, b and n, and others...and despite the fact that they are listed on their very own website...that i have only sold three of one of the books and none of the other in an entire year?! Well, I have had it. It cost me altogether over a thousand dollars that I quite literally nearly starved to send them and they want to treat me as if I am too stupid to see through their lies. So, last night, I made a decision. Monday I am calling them, and sending them an email, informing them that I want both books canceled, removed from their data base, and that I feel they owe me at least half of what it cost me to have them publish the books. After all, why pay them for something they haven't done? They did not design the covers, I did. They did not do the editing, proofreading, and correcting, i did, more times than I want to think about. All they did was enter the data onto a computer, save it to a file and push a button to start printing it. And then of course, least I forget, they had their trained monkeys throw the pages together and bind them. Don't you all wish you got paid over a thousand dollars to push a few buttons! So Monday I am notifying them that the games are over. I want the books removed from their data base, I want the contract canceled, and I want at least a portion of what I have paid in the year those books have been out for the pleasure of having them lie to me and play head games with me. The other book, the last one, they have precisely till my birthday in March to prove themselves or I will be doing the same with them. I am sick and tired of being the world's blasted doormat.

And this is to all of you who advise getting an agent. That advise is very wise, except for one teensy weensy thing...agents want the one thing I do not possess...five letters...m..o..n..e..y. Up front....in cash...before they will help. And then if you are unfortunate to get one that has masochistic tendencies and likes torturing those paying them, they take your money and never help you...sort of like publish america and xlibris and author house. I do so hope you will forgive my lack of faith in people these days, it has taken somewhat of a beating lately.

To the one that mentioned the "crit" thing, and said i can share my work with others...what is it, where is it, what does one need to qualify to share their work, and what guarantee's does one have that they work is safe? I am taking a leap of faith nearly as large as I did when I knowingly sacrificed nearly everything I absolutely did not need to get the books published in the first place by pulling the first two and then I am going to try to rewrite them. There is only one little bitty problem with that scenario though. You see, I do not write like you all do, sitting down and thinking and plotting and figuring out characters and all of that. I write by inspiration. I do not interact with the world around me, therefor I have little to draw on for inspiration. When I say I write by inspiration, I mean exactly that. A chance word, a memory, even a wisp of scent or a flash of color will start the words cascading into my head, and they will not let me go till I let them go. This it is with the stories, Thus it is with the verses. I only have a seventh grade education, failed every English class I was ever in, and have little or no knowledge, as I stated, of the world around me. You see, I suffer agoraphobia. I do not interact well with either the world or the inhabitants within it. I do not see things as they do and often am lost and confused by the motives behind what drives them. I do not understand them and they have never sought to understand me. I question things, I think about and wonder about things, things that the few times that I tried to share with others, they either mocked me or threatened to lock me away. I am not crazy, I just don't see life the way they do. My writing reflects this. Tell me more of those "crit" group things and I will take that leap of faith and share some of the things I have written since the books. Mayhaps if they accept my small works I will gain courage to share the ones that I hold closer to my heart. And this in answer to the one who inquired if I write "fantasy"...this I am not sure of, I truly do not know what you would call what I write. I simply call them "heart speak" for that is from whence they originate. I cannot write through consciously willing the words into being, planning them, plotting them. The words simply come of their own accord. And I set them free. If there is indeed a place for me to share, then I would seek to share the very story that Publish America rejected. I would seek to share just that one, which was my very first non poetical writing, with any who could view it and judge honestly and fairly and be at least somewhat gentle in their critiquing.

Query...how and where do I find an agent? What would I say to one? Would I show them my work? What all do they do? If any of you have more advice or tips, and would be able to better convey them in a less formalized format, you are welcome to email me at [email protected]. I would welcome all the help I can get. I have talent, at least a little I have been told, but a seed that remains in the packet cannot grow. I just need help growing.

And this to the one that made the comment about the cost of the computer, I say you nay, there is no alternative to the route I currently travel. I have no other recourse save the one I currently am following. I live in a small town. I do not drive. It costs me anywhere from ten to twenty dollars to have someone take me to the closest large town. I have to have the computer now, so I do not have the luxury of saving the money to get one outright. So thus am I stuck in a no win situation. I am very nearly a total recluse, this computer is vital not only in the instance of being able to write, but it is my link to the world. And the only way I could get and keep this computer is to rent it. From the only computer rental place in town. It will be paid off in about fifteen months. If i keep my sanity that long.

so, leave me your thoughts, and please, explain about those "crit" things.

I will be checking in periodically to see what you all have to say. I am at my ropes end and the knot is slipping. And their is a pit of piranha's below me.

d'racae'lyn/aka/author amber michelle.
 

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Query...how and where do I find an agent? What would I say to one? Would I show them my work? What all do they do? If any of you have more advice or tips, and would be able to better convey them in a less formalized format, you are welcome to email me at [email protected]. I would welcome all the help I can get. I have talent, at least a little I have been told, but a seed that remains in the packet cannot grow. I just need help growing.

Research research research. All that information is available with just a few key presses. Take some time to read the various forums here, like Novels and Basic Writing Questions and Ask The Agent. Then search for agent blogs and read those. Agents like Nathan Bransford, Kristin Nelson, Janet Reid, and Jennifer Jackson take valuable time to help writers by writing blog posts about the publishing industry.

Now is the time to slow down and take your time to read the wealth of information out there.
 

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Query...how and where do I find an agent? What would I say to one? Would I show them my work? What all do they do? If any of you have more advice or tips, and would be able to better convey them in a less formalized format, you are welcome to email me at [email protected]. I would welcome all the help I can get. I have talent, at least a little I have been told, but a seed that remains in the packet cannot grow. I just need help growing.

Go to the main page of this site and start scrolling down. Then start reading thread after thread after thread. You'll catch on as quickly as any of the thousands of other members. There is a TON of great information here. You might want to start with "Ask the Agent" or "Basic Writing Questions." Then head over to "Share Your Work" and get some ideas about how to write a query letter.
 

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Best advice: don't pay a penny to agents. Anybody who asks for it upfront before representing you isn't worth the time.

Second best: you can find more information about the reputable agencies and how to submit to them here on AW. Take a look around and ask questions.

By "crits", people are talking about posting samples of your work in the Share Your Work section here for critique. Take some time to look around and get a feel for how things work. Rest assured that everything you post there is safe.
 

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Amber Michelle:

Hang out around AW for awhile, read the threads in the Bewares and Backgrounds section, and take some time to learn about the business side of writing.

I'll confess I didn't read all of your last post; it was very long and it's late, and I'm tired. However, I did notice that you wrote this:

And this is to all of you who advise getting an agent. That advise is very wise, except for one teensy weensy thing...agents want the one thing I do not possess...five letters...m..o..n..e..y. Up front....in cash...before they will help.

Legitimate agents and publishers will NOT charge you money up front for their services. An agent gets paid when he or she sells your book, not before.

Don't pay anyone else to read, represent, or publish your work.

And welcome to AW. Read the stickied threads. You'll learn a lot, I promise.
 

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Yep, always remember Yog's Law: money flows to the writer. Always.

Good luck, there's lot of good information around.
 

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Hun, the fact that you keep saying that publishers and agents want money upfront suggests that you've bought into the lie that that's how publishing works. That lie is repeated over and Over and OVER first by the proponents of self-publishing and then by others who've bought into it. The lie is rife out on the 'net.

But it's not true.

The only thing you need to secure a legitimate agent or a commercial publishing deal is a great manuscript.

Of course, that's hard to produce. Most writers will never produce one. And when they get rejected, they blame the publishers and agents and then go searching on the 'net for reasons other than 'not good enough' to explain their rejections, and they find and fall for all those lies and even start repeating them themselves. Ad nauseum.

But let me repeat that core truth: The only thing you need to secure a legitimate agent or a commercial publishing deal is a great manuscript.

The trick is to keep writing, keep practicing, keep honing your craft until what you have to offer is a great manuscript.

And then only offer it to legitimate agents and/or commercial publishers for consideration. <--- This part is where the research come in, so you're sure that you're not submitting to the wrong sorts.

And one more time, just to be sure it's clear: The only thing you need to secure a legitimate agent or a commercial publishing deal is a great manuscript.
 

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And this is to all of you who advise getting an agent. That advise is very wise, except for one teensy weensy thing...agents want the one thing I do not possess...five letters...m..o..n..e..y. Up front....in cash...before they will help.

Amber, have you heard of how J. K. Rowling got published? She sent a manuscript to the Christopher Little Literary Agency, back when she was an unemployed single mom on welfare. If the agency wanted cash up front they would have turned her down, since from what I've heard she didn't have any.

As Terie said, reputable and legitimate agents don't charge their clients. Not upfront, not in cash (what, they want cash sent through the mail or Western Union?), not ever. There are people here who actually have agents who have sold their books to major houses, and they haven't paid those agents a cent.

I do so hope you will forgive my lack of faith in people these days, it has taken somewhat of a beating lately.

It's fine to be skeptical, but be skeptical for the right reasons, not because of misinformation.

To the one that mentioned the "crit" thing, and said i can share my work with others...what is it, where is it, what does one need to qualify to share their work, and what guarantee's does one have that they work is safe?

There are no qualifications you need to get a crit, as long as whatever you post is readable (e.g. normal font, normal size). It's also more likely to get read if it's not a rough draft with too many spelling and grammatical errors.

As for "safe", the Share Your Work forum can't be accessed without a password, so check it out. Good luck!
 

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And this is to all of you who advise getting an agent. That advise is very wise, except for one teensy weensy thing...agents want the one thing I do not possess...five letters...m..o..n..e..y. Up front....in cash...before they will help. And then if you are unfortunate to get one that has masochistic tendencies and likes torturing those paying them, they take your money and never help you...sort of like publish america and xlibris and author house. I do so hope you will forgive my lack of faith in people these days, it has taken somewhat of a beating lately.

I know others have already said this, but it always bears repeating: You do not have to pay to be published. An agent will not ask for money up front, this is not how it works. If you are offered representation or publication in exchange for money, thank them and walk away.

An agent is paid a percentage of your income. If you don't earn any money, the agent does not earn any money. Ditto the publisher.




To the one that mentioned the "crit" thing, and said i can share my work with others...what is it, where is it, what does one need to qualify to share their work, and what guarantee's does one have that they work is safe?

Many come to this board and state their fear of having their work stolen. The SYW section of the board is password protected (vista) so anything posted there doesn't get picked up by seach engines. The only people who will be able to see anything you post there are users of this board and generally we prefer it when people don't suggest we are waiting to nab their work and slap our own names on the front.
If you do not wish to post your work here (for whatever reason), try advertising in the Beta readers section of the board for somebody willing to crit your work privately.
 

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The only people who will be able to see anything you post there are users of this board and generally we prefer it when people don't suggest we are waiting to nab their work and slap our own names on the front.

Even ignoring the ethics/potential consequences of doing so (and the fact that we've all got our own work and don't need anyone else's), what good would it do us to steal someone else's work? We'd still have to edit it and submit it, with no guarantee of it being accepted.

Personally, what keeps me going despite rejection is my faith in my work - which I wouldn't have if I were submitting someone else's writing. There would be no personal connection.
 

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If you are capable of doing your own design and layout (as you apparently were with your XLibris books) and you just want to see your words bound between covers, I recommend LuLu.com, which allows you to set things up for free and only makes money when people buy a copy.

Beyond that, all I will say is that you clearly have much to unlearn and even more to learn about how writing and publishing work.
 

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There's a nice big thread in the Bewares, Recommendations and Background Checks forum called "How REAL Publishing Works." I suggest you read it. Several times. :)


I have never paid my agent a penny up front; he gets paid off the top of my advance and royalty checks when my publishers send them. I've never paid to publish; my publishers pay me. In fact, when I have occasion to see my agent and/or editors in person, I don't even pay for my own meals or drinks.

My books are in stores all around the country, and thanks to my UK, German, and Polish publishers, they're in stores all over the world. I didn't pay for any of that. I got paid. I didn't design my own cover or pay for a single book to be printed.

Anyone who tells you that you have to "spend money to make money" as a writer is lying.

That's the way real publishing works.
 

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Amber,

Should you decide to post some of your work in the Share Your Work forum, you need to be aware that you will receive some critiques that seem very harsh. You may feel offended and maddened by them, but I assure you the critics are sincerely trying to help you improve your writing skills and to help you produce a manuscript you can sell to a commercial publisher.

I see that you have already found the forum and I caution you to remember the one big rule we have on AW. Respect your fellow writer and AW member. Like I said, you may find some of the critiques to be harsh and offensive and may feel compelled to respond emotionally. Rather than responding emotionally, it is best to simply thank each member for taking the time to read your work.

Additionally, critiquing other members' works will help you find faults in your own and I recommend doing a few critiques before posting your own work. You may not feel qualified to do critiques but don't let that stop you. Crits are simply a person's personal opinion and everyone's opinion counts and is respected here in AW.

~brianm~
 
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I feel they owe me at least half of what it cost me to have them publish the books.

If you signed a contract with them they will tell you to check the clauses. Most of them will have "all sales final, we didn't promise you anything, we delivered the minimum required" clauses so they can keep the money.

These companies are very good at keeping your money. Do not expect to get it back. You can try, but they won't cooperate and you will get frustrated. You're not the only writer calling cheat and wanting a refund.

Give it a try, then MOVE ON.

agents want the one thing I do not possess...five letters...m..o..n..e..y. Up front....in cash...before they will help.
You've been looking for agents online--those will ALL be fee-charging agents.

REAL agents do NOT charge money--they only get paid AFTER they sell your book.

Scam agents have no reason to sell your book if you pay them. They get more money by not selling a book.

You find a reputable agent by asking writers who do books similar to your own. Most have an email contact and don't mind helping out another writer.

Here are some reputable agencies that DO NOT CHARGE a penny:

Nancy Yost

Lowenstein

Jennifer Jackson


Donald Maass

Knight Agency


Spectrum

You see that on all of them except Lowenstein that they show pictures of books they've sold and writers you've heard of. Nancy Yost used to be at Lowenstein and it shows a record of sales on Predators and Editors.

http://pred-ed.com/

You can check out a publisher or agent on Pred-Ed. Go check the agents you've looked up. Chances are good they will have big red "Not recommended" warnings next to them.

I got both my agents by asking other writers--writers who have books in stores--for recommendations. I've had agents repping me since 1990 and not once have I been charged. They were busy selling my books, not trying to get money from me.

To the one that mentioned the "crit" thing, and said i can share my work with others...what is it, where is it, what does one need to qualify to share their work, and what guarantee's does one have that they work is safe?
The "Share Your Work" area on AW is password protected and you are dealing with fellow writers. It is an unspoken rule to RESPECT the work of other writers.

The writers here are serious about their craft.

No one is going to steal your work. They are too busy with their own work to bother.

Go to the main menu "Absolute Write Water Cooler" and scroll down to "Share Your Work" and click.

Read the rules at the top. They will be marked "Sticky", meaning like a sticky note.

Read the critiques left for other writers. Sometimes you will see your own mistakes in other works and can fix them without posting anything.

Basics like breaking things into smaller paragraphs, spell check, grammar, and punctuation--you take care of that before posting a 5-page excerpt.

When you've gotten enough comments--a week or so is fine, you let the moderator know to delete your posting.

I do not write like you all do, sitting down and thinking and plotting and figuring out characters and all of that. I write by inspiration.
We all do! To one extent or another we all start out that way. It's like a baby using furniture to pull herself upright so she can walk. She gets help from an adult for a time, and she begins taking her first steps.

Here on AW you learn to do those first steps, then move on to walking on your own--which will be the good old reliable "butt in chair" method of writing.

It takes practice, but you will learn how.

I was just like you. I only wrote when I felt "inspired." Then I figured out how to turn that inspiration on any time I liked, and I was able to write steadily day after day. Result: 23 books sold, a bunch of short stories, and I now edit.

It just took practice. A little bit every day.

You learn to play the piano by practicing every day. Same thing goes for writing!

I do not interact with the world around me,
Neither did poet Emily Dickinson.
She did not leave the Homestead unless it was absolutely necessary and as early as 1867, she began to talk to visitors from the other side of a door rather than speaking to them face to face.
She DID do a lot of reading and thinking.

And she wrote. Every day. She wrote!
Emily was quick witted and intelligent; she had a good sense of humor, but was often ill at ease in other people’s company. She gave the impression of being somewhat agitated and intense.

Although she did feel awkward in some social situations, with her close friends and sisters she could easily indulge in innocent childlike humor.
If she was around today she would have a computer just like you and be writing to people around the world.

Writing-writing-writing!


I only have a seventh grade education, failed every English class I was ever in, and have little or no knowledge, as I stated, of the world around me.
You have a computer and all the public domain books in the world are available on it for you: http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/

You see, I suffer agoraphobia.
Big deal. One of my artist friends has it. He still does amazing paintings of alien worlds he has never visited.

An author I know has it. She writes. Every day. She made it to the New York Times bestseller list.

TV producer/writer/novelist Stephen J. Cannell had dyslexia. He never let that stop him.

Moe Howard dropped out of high school to follow his passion for acting and entertaining--but he READ a LOT.

So did Groucho Marx, who was considered to be a major intellectual. He always felt badly about not completing his education, so he made up for it by reading constantly. He also wrote books.

His brother Harpo quit school after the 2nd grade. (The big kids kept throwing him out the window so one day he just kept going. That didn't stop him from being a part of the Algonquin Round Table, and helping write his own book "Harpo Speaks.")

I know writers in wheelchairs, writers with ADD, writers who are blind, writers who are deaf, writers with destructively INSANE families, writers with cancer.

We all have problems--but we don't let anything get between ourselves and our passion for writing!

It's not an excuse for them--it is something they ignore and get past so they can do what they love.

Tell me more of those "crit" group things (snip) Mayhaps if they accept my small works
Okay, a critique group is there to criticize, not tell you how wonderful your writing is. Their job is to find every flaw and pick at it.

It's the same thing you'd get from any editor or agent, but in slow motion and more painful.

If you go there to get praise, then don't. You're not ready yet.

If you go there to learn to be better at your craft, then do.


An amateur wants praise and validation.

A pro wants to know what needs to be fixed so she can make it better.


share the very story that Publish America rejected. I would seek to share just that one
They only rejected it because you didn't buy enough copies of the other book. Forget them. Move on to be a pro.

Query...how and where do I find an agent? What would I say to one? Would I show them my work? What all do they do?
Hang out on AW, read the forums. Go to the 808 section of the library if you can and read books about writing and getting published. The more you know the less you get ripped off.

See if your library has an online download feature. You can "check out" books for free then.

None of this is fast.
Those places that ripped you off preyed on your lack of information and impatience, but it's all here for you if you just dig in for the long haul and read and learn.

Helpful places--bookmark and READ them:

Learn Writing with Uncle Jim


The Snowflake Method of Writing a Novel

How Publishing Really Works

The Craft of Writing

All FREE. You can't beat free.

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Mr. MacDonald, I pray you will forgive my impertinence, but I absolutely have got to ask you this.............

ARE YOU THE MASTER MIND BEHIND "ATLANTA NIGHTS"?!

That "masterpiece" came up quite frequently during my search for information to use against "a corrupt and fraudulent publisher whose very presence I have removed from my personal website and deleted, destroyed, decimated, and discontinued on my computer, and who I am attempting very hard to do likewise from my brain, said publisher which shall remain nameless". I absolutely love the idea that someone pulled one on them! You, sir, are to be commended, honored, and saluted to the highest degree if you are indeed the mastermind behind that little gem!

A very tickled lady dragon!

D'racae'lyn

By the way, coming across mentions of that "epic of literary perfection" was about the only time that I smiled during that whole entire fiasco...with malicious and vindictive glee, i might add!
 
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And do you know what else? They actually did me a favor. Because of my experience with them I am pulling all three of my other books Monday, even if I can't get at least a portion of what it cost me to pay them not to do their job, then I am going to search for an agent to handle the fourth book and I am revamping the other two. I am not going another year on the first two being told that I have had no sales when they had one million five hundred thousand email ads sent out, are listed with major distributors like barnesandnoble and amazon.com, and are available worldwide and have been for a year. In that time they only record three sales of one of the two books and none of the other. The dragon book, which was published by the company that was just purchased by the umbrella company that owns the one that published my first two, has been out since latter June and only shows three sales despite being available on that publisher's website, through b & n, amazon and several other major distributors and being listed world wide. I suffer an emotional disorder, not a mental one. I may not be the brightest light bulb in the room, but there is still some glow. In other words, stupid I am not. So thus am I officially notifying both publishers Monday morning, by both phone and email, that I want those contracts canceled, those books removed from their databases, and a refund of at least a portion of the money that I wasted paying them to sit on their thumbs with their feet hanging over. Then I am, as I stated, going to search for an agent, send them the dragon book, see what they say, and rewrite, revamp, regroup the other two, and then find agents for them.

Several on here have advised me to turn the energy generated by my anger towards writing. Well, that is exactly what I am going to do. And you know what? I am going to send those disreputable lowlifes an autographed copy when I sell my fiftieth book!

An oak does not become mighty in calm weather, but rather through surviving storms.

And I intend on letting this help me grow stronger.

After all, why should I let them kill my dreams for the future just because they have decimated my dreams of the present?

D'racae'lyn
 

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Glad to hear it, Amber. I don't think you'll get a refund, but I suppose it never hurts to ask. Just don't be shocked when they tell you no. ;-)
 

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Sir Gillhoughly, thou must of a certainity be in possession of wings, for thou beist surely an angel sent to guide this weary life traveler!

Thank you for the list of possible agents. As I told Mr. Macdonald above, Monday I am pulling all three of my books. Read what I wrote him and you will understand why. I can do better, and deserve better, albeit I am not the professional that most on here are, than to have to suffer this dishonorable treatment. Even if I do talk weird sometimes (and yes, that is exactly how I think, believe it or not, which is one of the primary reasons I detest having to go out in the "real world" for when I am there I must "conform" to their manner of speaking and do my sorry best to attempt to use terms of reference they are comprehensive of. It is a "pain in the keister" as my grandmother would have said, so I do it as infrequently as I can get away with! And yeah, I know that is being chicken, but hey, someone has to lay the eggs!)

As soon as I have confirmation that the contracts have been canceled and the books removed from their websites, I will begin searching for an agent for the dragon one and revamping the other two.

wishing you loads of hugs and best wishes

d'racae'lyn
 

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Amber,

Understanding the business of commercial publishing is as important as being able to write a great manuscript. The two go hand in hand and before you start submitting to agents, you need to understand what is excellent, good, acceptable, and bad for you and your works.

I'm thrilled to read you are channeling your energy into your writing, but do please channel some of it towards learning the business side of writing. Knowing how commercial publishing works and not having to depend upon others for advice at every move will help you avoid making more mistakes.

Best wishes and good luck.

~brianm~
 
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James,

You (edited for those sensitive users, u know who u are) deserve a big :Hug2: and :Clap: for all the support and advice you have so effortless supplied. And of course penning the cult classic A. Nights.

But...(again edited for sensitive users thought they were seeing too many ... infront of their faces)get your mail once in awhile and clean up that mailbox goober. :wag: (System Admin in real life...hehe)
 
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