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Okay, so I'm in Word '07, working on my script.

There's the FADE IN etc. all in caps, and then the character's name in caps where I'm about to start the scene.

I go to type speech, which should NOT be in caps, and all it will let me do is type in caps. I turn caps lock on, it's caps. I turn it off, it's caps. There's no button in Word for caps lock, and anyway I restarted my computer to see if that would fix it, but no. I went higher in the document where there was lower case, and tried typing there, and it was lower case. Anyway, it's not caps here in AW, so I know it's not my computer that's broken.

I just found a button for controlling upper and lower case in Word. Well, I change it to lowercase where I want to type, and I type and it's still caps. I typed something then, and it went in caps, but then I highlighted and changed to lower case, and that worked fine, and then continuing on after that it went to lower case as normal.

I added another piece of dialogue from a different character - name in caps, text in lower case, and it's working fine again. So I've solved my hurdle, but what was happening there?

It drives me crazy when stuff like that happens. I had a similar problem recently. I hadn't typed anything in a new document, and I set the Font to TNR, and then set the size to 12. Well, it reverted back to Calibri font. So I changed it back to TNR, and the size reverted back to 11. It went on and on like this, and in the end I had to type something in Calibri 11, then highlight and change it to TNR 12, which worked, and then everything after that was already set to TNR 12. But why must stupid shit like this happen? Is it just Word '07? Or am I doing something stupid?

I'd really like to know. So far I've been able to get past these problems, but they keep occurring, and it's bloody annoying. If there was a clear-cut "this is what you're doing wrong" or even "this is the simple way to fix it" then I'd love to know. Seriously!

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I suspect you are using a style template - possibly one intended for screenplays.

With a style template, you can have a style called 'CHARACTER NAME'.

That style will show everything in upper case no matter what the underlying text actually is.

(It's actually under 'Font' - see 'All Caps')

So that block of text is set to that style.

If you are using styles, then have a look at what short cut keys are assigned to the style. Then, just highlight a block of text that is meant to be action and press [Ctrl]+[A] (or whatever the shortcut key you've assigned is)

Good luck,

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In Autocorrect options, down at the bottom, there dwells a troll named Define styles based on your formatting. Is its box checked? Maybe Word is only trying to be helpful (and totally bunging it up, as usual).

Killing the normal template and starting fresh might help.
 

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It's possible you've merely hit the correct key combination to set your font to All Caps.

Go into the Font details window (it may still be Ctrl-D in 2007 - otherwise you will need to hunt about for wherever it is at the moment) and see whether there's a tick in the All Caps box.

More mysteries have been started in documents in my office by people hitting control key combinations which do interesting things...

[Or possibly you have the evil "Update Styles Based on Formatting" option ticked on, in which case because you've typed in all caps, Word has decided you want to type in all caps always. I always always recommend going in to the autocorrect and autoformat options and turning off most of the "Word thinks for you but badly" options.]
 

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The thing is, I had typed 50 pages of the script already, and there was plenty of caps-names/actions/fadeins/etc. and there was never a problem with getting it back to normal simply by pressing caps lock again on my keyboard. It just suddenly started being a problem after 50 pages or so...

I'm about to check that style thingy...
 

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It's possible you've merely hit the correct key combination to set your font to All Caps.

Go into the Font details window (it may still be Ctrl-D in 2007 - otherwise you will need to hunt about for wherever it is at the moment) and see whether there's a tick in the All Caps box.

More mysteries have been started in documents in my office by people hitting control key combinations which do interesting things...

[Or possibly you have the evil "Update Styles Based on Formatting" option ticked on, in which case because you've typed in all caps, Word has decided you want to type in all caps always. I always always recommend going in to the autocorrect and autoformat options and turning off most of the "Word thinks for you but badly" options.]

I thought of that Ctrl problem, but everytime I've ctrl-d myself into something stupid, I just save and close the file, and when I open it up again it's all fine. Not this time though. I even restarted the computer and it was still doing the stupid caps thing.

I'm scared to turn off Word-thoughts, because I don't know how any of it works, and anyway, I don't know where to go to do it...

Normally I don't have any problems with Word '07. I thought it was a good program.
 

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In Autocorrect options, down at the bottom, there dwells a troll named Define styles based on your formatting. Is its box checked? Maybe Word is only trying to be helpful (and totally bunging it up, as usual).

Killing the normal template and starting fresh might help.

I can't find Autocorrect options - nothing autocorrect is in any of my tabs, and it's not down at the bottom...
 

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Have you tried posting your question in google and seeing if it brings up some bulletin boards where other people get questions answered?

I got this when I typed ( locked caps lock word 7) into Google



and the reason it happened is because i was using the word 2007 equation editor, which defaults to typing everything in caps, and this almost 'escaped' from equation editor and went to the rest of the document and it was turned off by going right click > font> unticking 'all caps'....
dont know the point of this option.... maybe for keyboards that dont have a caps lock?


and there are some answers a little further down....
 
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I can't find Autocorrect options - nothing autocorrect is in any of my tabs, and it's not down at the bottom...
You know that circular button at the top where you go to save when you don't hit ctrl + s? Click it. Then when you click it, go to word options.

Click circle thingy at the left hand corner --> Word Options --> Proofing --> AutoCorrect Options.

That's how you get to it. MS 2007 is sneaky.
 

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I can't find Autocorrect options - nothing autocorrect is in any of my tabs, and it's not down at the bottom...
Click the Big Stupid Button, go down to the bottom, click Word Options button. Find Proofing. Click. Find AutoCorrect Options button. Click.

Kill kill kill!

Oh, cryaegm said that already. Except for the kill-kill-kill part :D
 

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Okay, so I'm in Word '07, working on my script.

There's the FADE IN etc. all in caps, and then the character's name in caps where I'm about to start the scene.

I go to type speech, which should NOT be in caps, and all it will let me do is type in caps. I turn caps lock on, it's caps. I turn it off, it's caps. There's no button in Word for caps lock, and anyway I restarted my computer to see if that would fix it, but no. I went higher in the document where there was lower case, and tried typing there, and it was lower case. Anyway, it's not caps here in AW, so I know it's not my computer that's broken.

I just found a button for controlling upper and lower case in Word. Well, I change it to lowercase where I want to type, and I type and it's still caps. I typed something then, and it went in caps, but then I highlighted and changed to lower case, and that worked fine, and then continuing on after that it went to lower case as normal.

I added another piece of dialogue from a different character - name in caps, text in lower case, and it's working fine again. So I've solved my hurdle, but what was happening there?
I have an idea, it might have to do with MS Windows rather than Word.

Press either shift key five times (pick one, don't alternate between them). The "Stickykeys" dialog box should come up. Press the Settings button. This brings up Accessibility Options/Keyboard. Make sure all the options are unchecked. What's happening to you isn't consistent, but it partly sounds like the "togglekeys" option is on. But if all the options are already unchecked, please disregard this paragraph. :)
It drives me crazy when stuff like that happens. I had a similar problem recently. I hadn't typed anything in a new document, and I set the Font to TNR, and then set the size to 12. Well, it reverted back to Calibri font. So I changed it back to TNR, and the size reverted back to 11. It went on and on like this, and in the end I had to type something in Calibri 11, then highlight and change it to TNR 12, which worked, and then everything after that was already set to TNR 12. But why must stupid shit like this happen? Is it just Word '07? Or am I doing something stupid?
This would be something different (or if the above 'stickykeys' doesn't apply, this might be related to the caps thing in some hidden Word options I'm not familiar with). I have problems just with Wordpad when I'm writing a .rtf document in different fonts and sizes, I forget the exact "problems" but it seems going to the end of text and starting typing shows up as the original font and size when the program started up, not the font and size I selected for the text up to that point. I'm wondering if what it does is just how it works and I'm expecting it to do something else.

I have similar problems using options such as bold and italics in these bulletin board dialog boxes for posting. If I type after something I've bolded, I don't want what I type to also be bolded, but that's what happens.

Here's another Hopeful Hint: If you have text selected, the options you change will only apply to the text you selected. If you don't have text selected. the options you change will only apply to where the cursor is when you made the change. If you move the cursor up a line and then back down, your changes might not apply anymore...

In most text formatting in "wsyiwig" mode there's no visible boundary for when one formatting area ends and another begins, which sucks. the "bbscode" for forum posts such as [ b ] and [ /b ] for bold (without the embedded spaces) is clearer in that you see exactly what text it affects and you can see where to insert something to get the effect you want, but it has the feeling of "last-millenium computing." I'm comfortable with it probably because I started learning about computers over 30 years ago, and I can see where others might recoil at the site of "special codes."
 

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oh I HATE these kinds of problems!

Every time I open my WP I still quietly thank Williebee for walking me through my troubles before...
 

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Click the Big Stupid Button, go down to the bottom, click Word Options button. Find Proofing. Click. Find AutoCorrect Options button. Click.

Kill kill kill!

Oh, cryaegm said that already. Except for the kill-kill-kill part :D
Why did they make that stupid ass button? When I first started using MS Word 2007, I was so confused and wondered "What the hell is this?" Then after I put the version on my computer two years ago, I didn't care for MS Word and just messed around with it. Then I found out how to change the color background and a lot of stuff. xD

I do want to kill kill kill MS Word 2007 though. Stupid Widow/orphan control and its other BSness...