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Somewhat bad at the beginning does that turn off readers? Just for example he is forced to do horrid things for the sake of keeping his own and others lives. Yet he understands that it is wrong and tries to fix his wrongs? When the character is forced to the dark side, yet is escaping their sins. What are your opinions on that aspect?
 

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Bad can be very interesting ;) Moral struggles can be very interesting. I'd be totally fine with it.
 

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Somewhat bad at the beginning does that turn off readers? Just for example he is forced to do horrid things for the sake of keeping his own and others lives. Yet he understands that it is wrong and tries to fix his wrongs? When the character is forced to the dark side, yet is escaping their sins. What are your opinions on that aspect?

There are a few ways to approach the answer(s) to this question.

The published book: If we're talking about a novel that is published, most likely your readers will already go into the book knowing your main character has some redeeming qualities. (Thanks to the back of the book blurb, for example.) You can probably hold out a bit longer, because the fact alone this guy is boasted as the main character (ie: protagonist) suggests there's something good in him.

The manuscript: Before you publish, you've got to get past some readers, though. Beta readers, if you have them. Agents, editors. But the key here is just to show that moral side where possible, as early as possible. Antiheroes are some of the most memorable characters in fiction: Batman, Holden Caufield, Lucifer (Paradise Lost), Raskolnikov, Scarlet O'Hara, Han Solo, Severus Snape, Jack Sparrow, Jack Bauer, House, etc.

Consider, also, how other characters react to your main character. This might all depend on the POV for your novel. If your POV is your main character, then you might have to work a bit more to effectively show off his internal struggle. But if the POV is his wife, for example, then you might have a more obvious showcase for his good side right away.

Personally, I usually like antiheroes more than the hero-heroes. Try picking up a copy of Bullies, Bastards and Bitches by Jessia Morell if you're interested in the whole dark hero/antihero/hero/villain distinction.
 
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Thanks guys... I actually have an editor looking at my work now, and they did ask to soften up my MC. and I did and it is much better. You see, he is born in a place where he was forced to do sinister things. Anyways thanks!
 

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Think about Dexter the serial killer. Before he became a TV show, he started out in novels. Not everyone likes him, but having your MC do bad things isn't the end of the world. In fact, it can be very interesting for the reader. They don't need to like them, they need to invest in the character emotionally. Antagonists somehow get a lot of attention... so they're doing something right.
 

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As long as your writing of the character is honest. Do not try to make a bad guy justify his reasons for being bad because you are worried that the reader will not understand.

Look at some of Cormac McCarthy's "bad" eggs. Lester Ballard in Child of God is a very bad egg indeed.

And McCarthy gives us tiny hints and peaks as to why, but never divulges the reason as to why he is bad.

Just make sure the writing is honest and true. Your readers will know if you are being insincere.

However, if your character goes through a life chaanging experience and goes from bad to good, you still do not have to explain everything...kepp us, the readers, guessing.

Good luck!
 

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I just watched Kubrick's Lolita last night. One of the saddest things I've ever seen. Humbert Humbert is a great example of a tragic character.
 

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You just have to make them an interesting character. HH is totally screwed-up but he's poetic and witty, able to manipulate the reader into liking him.
 

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What is the story?

Is it about redemption? It's been done.

Is it about a character's descent into great tragedy? It's been done.

Is it about character's growth? It's been done.

So, just write it and write it well.
 

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yeah, much has been done...It is all about the way you write it of course. My editor says mine is quite original so far, so I hope it stays that way :)
 

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Don't worry about it. You character is a good man in his own eyes. Everyone is the hero in their own story.

You can bet Charles Manson, Pol Pot, Hitler and Jeff Dahmer are absolutely convinced they are doing the right thing.
 

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Never read Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, have you lol? Anyway, I vote for it's probably fine. Granted, I'm the type who would enjoy a story from the villain's POV. I think the key point you've mentioned is that he's doing it to save others, which actually makes for an awesome conflict. He's doing things he doesn't want to be doing and finds despicable himself. That would be immediately intriguing to me because I love that sort of internal conflict.
 

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OK so what if my character was forced to be bad, yet he understands of the wrongs he commits?

The kind of readers you want (smart ones) won't attribute bad qualities to a good person forced to do bad things. Free will is an easily understood concept. I wouldn't worry too much. If anything I think your character will be viewed as a victim and readers will rally behind the character when s/he acts.
 

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Thanks guys for your help! I am really glad that it's working out! Luck to you all with writing! oh and maestrofwork (sorry if I mispelled??) I am sure to check out your books! I found them on amazon and they look really interesting :)
 

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Do you mean foreshadowing or anti-heroism? Either way, they're great techniques to use; I'm currently reading Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck, and it's one of the best books I've ever read because Lennie's such an interesting character to study in English. Another good character is the anti-hero Light Yagami from Death Note. Either way you write it, they're both great techniques to use for writing a good novel.
 

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As long as you don't push your character to be something he's not, you'll be fine. Some of my favorite characters in fiction are horrendous human beings--Alex from A Clockwork Orange, the Joker from Batman, Kazuo Kiriyama from Battle Royale. Don't focus on whether they're "bad" or "good." Just make them interesting.
 

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Don't do this:
'Max pulled the trigger and killed the man. Waah! I'm a good man, said Max.'

On one level, he is bad. Sure, he's doing some bad things to protect his family/friends, but meaning well does not absolve him of those things.
 
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