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Last summer I partnered with the uber fab Stew21---otherwise known as Trish---otherwise known as Trishka, the Trishkadelic one. We partnered to write a novel. And we are posting it to our novel blog. She writes a chapter, I write a chapter, she writes a chapter, I write a chapter...and so on. I absolutely love this partnership.

But PS...we don't communicate between one another in which direction the story goes next. we just write our chapters.
 

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Writing Partner Wanted​

Fantasy Young Adult and Romance aspiring novelist seeks another writer who doesn't suck at beta reading comments.
"Serious" people, please don't apply, but professional welcome.
Must think short, witty comments are funny. ;)
 

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Fantasy Young Adult and Romance aspiring novelist seeks another writer who doesn't suck at beta reading comments.
"Serious" people, please don't apply, but professional welcome.

Must think short, witty comments are funny. ;)


wow. seriously?
 

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Maybe we should all post Lonely Heart adverts.

Except those who have found their perfect partner, of course.
 

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Last summer I partnered with the uber fab Stew21---otherwise known as Trish---otherwise known as Trishka, the Trishkadelic one. We partnered to write a novel. And we are posting it to our novel blog. She writes a chapter, I write a chapter, she writes a chapter, I write a chapter...and so on. I absolutely love this partnership.

But PS...we don't communicate between one another in which direction the story goes next. we just write our chapters.

That sounds like fun, but I don't think I could do it. I am too much of a control freak.
 

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That sounds like fun, but I don't think I could do it. I am too much of a control freak.

I'm a super control freak. But I can departmentalize. The blog novel we're doing is for fun...just to see if we can do it. It's a lot of fun! It's here:

http://trishkevin.wordpress.com/

By posting it online as we write it...we're very clear about what we're doing. Just writing practice. Just for fun. It's all first draft.
 
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I don't think I could collaborate on a project with anyone.

Even in tt42's case, we tinkered with the idea of a collection of shorts. But a novel? Nuh-huh. I am the only god in my universe.
 

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Ah, ScarletPeaches --- loved your post. You and TT42 are so damned lucky (STRENGTH & HONOUR!!!). I don't have a writing partner but I do read for a few people and LOVE it... I think reading for others has only helped my MSs.

It's hard to find someone you trust and are in synch with (as SP and TT42 are). *sigh* I can dream --- one of these days! :)
 
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This is so wanky but here goes...

I believe tt42 is my reward for struggling through so many years on my own. It's like I proved how much I wanted this, I did my 10,000 hours (read Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers for more details) and I was rewarded with someone who gives me that extra push to take me from 'happy with what I write' to 'damn fucking proud'.

Just don't tell her I was nice about her behind her back. ;)
 

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Let's see, someone referred to me as a twunt, someone called me abrasive, and SP got all squicky sweet and <3 <3 <3 about our unholy alliance.

Hmm. Not much for me to add here. :D Carry on.

Oh, and bettielee? *flashes West Side gang signs*
 
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Let's see, someone referred to me as a twunt, someone called me abrasive, and SP got all squicky sweet and <3 <3 <3 about our unholy alliance.

Hmm. Not much for me to add here. :D Carry on.

Oh, and bettielee? *flashes West Side gang signs*
Well you could at least explain how it works from your side too.

It's the least I can do. I spewed so much sugar on this thread I need an insulin shot.
 

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Well you could at least explain how it works from your side too.

It's the least I can do. I spewed so much sugar on this thread I need an insulin shot.

There isn't much to say that you haven't already said...at least, not without putting myself in a sugar coma. Or puking.

But...I'll give it a go...

As if I haven't already blogged about it in the past...

Anyway, the biggest key to this kind of writing partnership is NO BULLSHIT. Really. That's it. We don't hold back with praise or criticism (and believe me, there is no beta reader as scathing as the one whose name rhymes with fartletbeaches). We both know that the other's praise isn't just gratuitous ego stroking, and a compliment is generally hard-earned.

SP has no qualms about telling me to "sort it, shithead" if something doesn't work, including the infamous SIS incident of 2008 that completely changed the course of Playing With Fire...and the book is much, much better for having weathered the fiery wrath of SP.

Also, every once in a while I'll write something that makes her (and I'm quoting her here) "seethe with professional jealousy". She informs me of these moments with such comments as "I hate you, bitch", "I hate you so much I could have you killed, then dig you up just to burn your body", and "you completely talented shit". I live for those moments, my friends.

So...bottom line...if you want a writing partnership like this, find someone who is on your level as a writer, who has absolutely no shame about telling you like it is, and doesn't just stroke your ego. In other words, someone who - like you - seeks criticism, not praise.

And when you find that person, they will give you that criticism you so crave.

And what will you do?

You'll take it, bitch, and you'll like it.
 

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I love that our unholy alliance inspires such hatred and envy. :D

It all started back in the days of yore. Say about a year and a half ago. Someone around AW made the mistake of mentioning Joaquin Phoenix and given the slack-jawed droolery coming from both of us, we recognised kindred spirits in each other.

So I sent a PM saying, "Give me your email address and you won't regret it!"

Never being one to pass up the opportunity of what looks like an inbox full of porn, Lori complied and our shared love of Wack (before he went completely batshit) inspired many a filthy email exchange.

I nagged, nagged, nagged tt42 to get MSN and eventually she did.

Fast forward to NaNo last year. On 31st October I was still stuck as to what to write and tt42 said, "Ah, just make up some characters, get them drunk and have them fuck a lot."

Thus was my entry into the erotica genre. And it worked. She was 'with me' on MSN every step of the way and when I burst into tears upon finishing Book #1 five and a half months later, she too had trouble focusing and her eyes watered, I'm assured.

She writes way, way faster than me, which gives me something to aspire to. I write longer books than her, which gives her something to aspire to. Apparently she's envious of my writing, which is an entirely mutual feeling.

Why does it work?

First off, we both have absolutely no shame. We can talk about Colin Farrell's nutsack one minute, moving quickly on to a family member's illness, to financial difficulties, to which position two men could most easily get into for a quick fuck, to books we've read aaaaand back to Colin Farrell's nutsack again.

We have our own language. We make up words all the time and the other automatically understands and takes those words into their own vocabulary. (GGIW being the prime example).

Also, neither of us are precious. Don't get me wrong. The first time I sent her a chapter it was unedited, a first draft straight out of my pen. Well, laptop. I literally felt sick. But apparently she liked it (as did I when she did the same) and the more work we exchanged, the less nerve-racking it got. Now we're eager for comments and will happily email chapters if the other is in bed because we're over that "ZOMG TELL ME I DON'T SUCK CHEESY DONKEY BALLS, IMMEDIATELAH!" need.

I have a reputation for being brutal on AW and while there are a few precious snowflakes who object to such an attitude, tt42 and I both thrive on it. I remember for Book #2 there was one night she said, "It's good, but, uh...if he knows something's about to happen, why doesn't he just phone ahead instead of going over there?" which elicited a mighty "Oh FUCK!" from me. Thank God she wasn't oogy about telling me what's what, because the book ended up better for it (two more chapters explaining why one of the male MCs' phones were off, rendering him incommunicado and showing him riding another MC into the ground).

Likewise, I've said to her on more than one occasions, "Sort it, Shithead!" Especially if she dares to send me anything vaguely resembling deus ex machina or coincidence.

There was also one idea she had for The Distance Between Us which I nixed straight off. No-one in their right mind would believe two guys would act in such a way towards each other. At least, those two wouldn't. Did I couch it in soft, delicate words, with tact and diplomacy? Hell no. And I quote. "Uh, no. Not gonna work. The reader would never believe...look, just LISTEN. How could you sleep with someone for years and not know that about them? Oh don't give me your bollocks. You're better than that."

I also title many of her books, name her characters and suggest 'interesting situations' for them to get into. We call it THE QUESTION. Yes, all caps. "My two [or sometimes more] MCs. What would you like to see them do?" A question which works both ways and we both have a lot of fun answering.

We don't always incorporate every suggestion but most spark off a train of thought leading to a smexuallly depraved chapter. ;)

It's a relationship I don't believe you can manufacture. You wouldn't believe the amount of PMs and reps I get expressing envy over this relationship but...just luck I guess. :D

I've said before that nothing has done more for my writing that AW and the biggest part of that is down to AW being the place where I 'met' tt42.

Don't hate me 'cause you ain't me. :D

This is so wanky but here goes...

I believe tt42 is my reward for struggling through so many years on my own. It's like I proved how much I wanted this, I did my 10,000 hours (read Malcolm Gladwell's book Outliers for more details) and I was rewarded with someone who gives me that extra push to take me from 'happy with what I write' to 'damn fucking proud'.

Just don't tell her I was nice about her behind her back. ;)

Let's see, someone referred to me as a twunt, someone called me abrasive, and SP got all squicky sweet and <3 <3 <3 about our unholy alliance.

Hmm. Not much for me to add here. :D Carry on.

Oh, and bettielee? *flashes West Side gang signs*

There isn't much to say that you haven't already said...at least, not without putting myself in a sugar coma. Or puking.

But...I'll give it a go...

As if I haven't already blogged about it in the past...

Anyway, the biggest key to this kind of writing partnership is NO BULLSHIT. Really. That's it. We don't hold back with praise or criticism (and believe me, there is no beta reader as scathing as the one whose name rhymes with fartletbeaches). We both know that the other's praise isn't just gratuitous ego stroking, and a compliment is generally hard-earned.

SP has no qualms about telling me to "sort it, shithead" if something doesn't work, including the infamous SIS incident of 2008 that completely changed the course of Playing With Fire...and the book is much, much better for having weathered the fiery wrath of SP.

Also, every once in a while I'll write something that makes her (and I'm quoting her here) "seethe with professional jealousy". She informs me of these moments with such comments as "I hate you, bitch", "I hate you so much I could have you killed, then dig you up just to burn your body", and "you completely talented shit". I live for those moments, my friends.

So...bottom line...if you want a writing partnership like this, find someone who is on your level as a writer, who has absolutely no shame about telling you like it is, and doesn't just stroke your ego. In other words, someone who - like you - seeks criticism, not praise.

And when you find that person, they will give you that criticism you so crave.

And what will you do?

You'll take it, bitch, and you'll like it.


Well, I guess now we can see why word count isn't their problem. :D
Jeezus, what kind of sordid love fest was THAT! I don't know if I should laugh or vomit. I think I'll do both.
 
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Well, I guess now we can see why word count isn't their problem. :D
Jeezus, what kind of sordid love fest was THAT! I don't know if I should laugh or vomit. I think I'll do both.
I hope you inhale your own puke, assmaster.

(That's a compliment where I come from).
 

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Fuckbunny, you are the only person on this forum who can get away with that.
 

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Sorry, Lori. I didn't mean to make you feel left out of your own love fest. Ass nugget. All better?