Fool me once - Should I write for them again?

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Here's my story: A magazine for which I very much wanted to write actually invited me to write for them last summer. I was very flattered and jumped at the chance. It was a small piece and didn't pay all that well. But I like the magazine and I'm fond of the owners plus the audience is filled with my people.

So it was all good. My contribution appeared in the September issue and I found myself on their email list of writers to contact with content requests. I haven't contributed since but I know that I can almost anytime.

But the problem is (and I'm sure many of you have already anticipated this) they haven't paid me yet. I didn't let myself worry about it to the point that I actually forgot about it. When I remembered it I compared notes with another contributor and he told me that they neglected to pay him for over a year once. In the meantime he wrote other articles and was paid for them but this one piece went unpaid until they noticed it and contacted him. (He is in a situation where he doesn't even need to keep track of such things, lucky so-n-so!)

Well, I emailed them last month and asked for the check. I was passed through three people before I got a promise that it would be mailed the next week. Clearly it wasn't. I've followed up with no response.

Now the editor, who remains studiously separate from payables, has asked for another article from me. It's a specific assignment for a specific topic.

Here's my sad little question: Should I do it without complaining about the check? Should I bring up the payment with him even though he's previously made it clear that he's not involved in that end? Should I mention the new article to payables on the off chance that they care? Should I exploit their deadline (2 weeks from now) and squeeze the check out of them before sending in the article after agreeing to write it? (Bad option I know, but evil and satisfying.) Should I just turn them down and look for an actually paying market despite my fondness for them?
 

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Should I just turn them down and look for an actually paying market despite my fondness for them?

Yes. Make it clear, in a professional manner, why you are reluctant to write for them again. It doesn't matter if the editor isn't in payables-he should not expect more work if you are unpaid.

Chasing your money down is no fun. Chasing someone you like (or a publication you like) is even worse. Step away.
 

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I guess it all depends on how much those clips might mean to you.

I would take into consideration how large the magazine is - if it is the same editor you dealt with before you might add a short paragraph at the bottom and mention it. Or, if he isn't likely to have known anything about the situation you might not mention it to the editor, but begin mailing statements each month to the billing department. Also, be sure to firm up any questions about payment on the new article.
 

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Yeah, I'm afraid I'd be reluctant to write for them again, too. I'd tell her that you're sorry, but you don't feel comfortable taking on new assignments until you've been paid for the one you already did.
 

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I would explain to the editor why you don't want to write for them again. Even though he remains "studiously separate from payables." if their failure to pay suddenly affects his ability to assign articles, he might suddenly discover someone to talk to in accounting.
 

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Personally, I agree with others here. As much as I love to write, I need to pay my bills, too. I would certainly let the editor know that you'd absolutely love to do the article. In fact, I would probably even write the article -- and then let the editor know that you've completed the article and would love to submit it -- but are waiting for payment from the last article before you're going to give it to them.
 

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I think you should contact the editor at once and tell her that although you thoroughly enjoyed writing the first article, and would like nothing more than to write the new article, you can't bring yourself to do so until you receive the overdue payment. Tell her that you know she doesn't want to get involved in payables, but given the circumstances could she make an exception and see that the check is sent to you at once, or, can she give you transfer your call to the person who can make that happen--at once (or give you the name of said person and their extension number). That if you receive payment you would be delighted to do the article and will advise her about same once this has been straigtened out.
 

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OK, as much as I feel compelled to please the editor and just submit what was asked I've followed your advice. I sent a polite but stern email explaining that I'd very much like to get started on the new project but not until the current payment is cleared up and I get some sort of assurances about future payments.

Why do I feel so bad and like such the jerk when it is they who have created this situation? Augh!
 

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Bryce,

Don't feel bad. You did the right thing. I'm sure the editor and the publication are wonderful, but your ideas, words, ability to write a great story, are more than wonderful, and that's saying nothing about the time you have to devote to a project. To write for an outfit that tells you they will pay and then doesn't, isn't too cool and puts you in a very bad place.
 

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OK, as much as I feel compelled to please the editor and just submit what was asked I've followed your advice. I sent a polite but stern email explaining that I'd very much like to get started on the new project but not until the current payment is cleared up and I get some sort of assurances about future payments.

Why do I feel so bad and like such the jerk when it is they who have created this situation? Augh!

Don't feel bad, it is just being professional. I don't imagine that the editor would come to work if he/she had failed to get a paycheck for six months. As much as any of us would like to be able to do some things for the sheer joy of the experience, the reality is that our families have got to eat...something has to pay for your Internet connection or you wouldn't be able to chat with us!

Things always have a way of working out for the best and you are never wrong to stand up for the ethical/professional side.
 

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Hey, Bryce,
Don't feel bad! You did the right thing and knowing you, I'm sure you did it in a very professional manner. It's hard, especially when it's a publication you like. The editor is still, to some degree, responsible for getting his writers paid.

Another option to get your check--since the editor refuses to deal with the Accounting dept. on your behalf, ask him for the contact info (phone number) so you can call someone there. I've found it often helps to get on the friendly side of those who sign the invoices. :)

Dawn
 

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Just curious . . what happened?
 

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Oh, and I also wrote an email saying what I really thought but I didn't send it. It was a very satisfying exercise!

Be careful with that one! Better to do it in Word or Notepad so that there is NO chance you can accidently send it!;)
 

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Yeah, I know somebody that went through an email and wrote snarky comments in response--just to vent--and then she accidentally hit 'send,' b/c she was so tired and stressed...the results were not pretty! I cringed when I heard about it, some of the things she had said!
 

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I agree with a few of the above posts: would the clip be a significant addition to your portfolio? If it would be, or if the payment would be small enough to live without, I would still consider writing the article just for the sake of your portfolio.
At the same time, it is frustrating to work with a publication who yanks you around like that...if it's an article that they trust you to write, they should be respectful enough to honor their contract. Good luck with your decision.
 

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I wouldn't be as nice. Be professional and firm and INVOICE them. You're running a business and that's horrible of them. And if it were me I'd never work for them again. Sorry this happened to you!!!
 

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Don't feel bad about in the least. I guarantee you the publisher stays aggressively after advertisers about any lingering invoices.
 

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Just curious . . what happened?

Hey guys. Thanks everyone for your thoughtful responses. This community is such a valuable resource for all of us. I really need to spend more time here; I always leave inspired.

Anywhooooo....

It turned into quite a tightrope walk so I didn't want drag you through the minutiae as the drama unfolded. But, finally, here's how it turned out.

First, I got paid. The check is still sitting here on my desk.

Second, my article will be in next month's magazine. I had a variety of reasons for going ahead and writing it. My portfolio is probably the biggest reason. I've written for this magazine before but this was my first full feature. It might seem silly but I always felt a little illegitimate to claim them on my resume without having yet written a full article. The other reason was that I learned they've changed their payment method - basically they brought it in-house. For reasons that were never entirely clear to me a third party is who paid me but that relationship ended in January. Presumably things will go smoother hereafter.

In a previous life I was a credit manager. I worked in both consumer and corporate credit and this experience served me well here. As the deadline came closer I had to work the editor and the payables person at the same time. In the end I made one enemy (the payables person at the third party so no real worries there - just hope that doesn't come back to bite me in the future) and still managed to get paid while feeling good about submitting a new article.