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Elodie-Caroline

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Firstly, I hope this is the right forum for this, if not, then please move it to the correct one. Thank you.

Last summer, when I had finished the first half of my novel, I asked for some beta-readers from another website, where I am very well known. All I wanted were people's opinions if it was a good story or not. I stupidly sent it out to anyone who asked to read it... I was proud of myself and wanted some feedback.

A few months later, a gang of members were deleted from this site, because some of them caused a lot of trouble on there. Some of the people were acquaintances of mine, so is the site owner and I was stuck between a rock and a hard place. I've been a member of said site for seven years and wanted to stay there, so I took the side of the site manager, as he is a personal friend of mine.
Some of the people who were deleted, are some of the people who asked to read my story; later on I got told that they were discussing my work on a private google group. I asked the owner of this group if she had a copy of my work, as she was also the ringleader of the people who were deleted, she said no, so I left it at that.

However, sometimes, some of these people come back to this site as trolls and cause trouble for people if they can. This weekend just gone, was my turn, except I wasn't online to see it and someone got the troll deleted.
But whilst they were on there, they supposedly put a tract of my work on the forum there. I don't know if it was my work, if they had rearranged it and added stuff etc. If it had been left there, I could have seen it and would have known if it was my own work or not. If the postings had of stayed and it was my own work, I could have asked the owner of the site to get me their IP address for legal reasons, but where they were deleted, I obviously can't.

What can I do if they are passing my work around on the internet and maybe even rearranging it, please?

I will never trust anyone with my work again.


Thank you for any advice offered ... Elodie
 

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I'm too ignorant about the technical aspects of running a forum to know whether there might be a copy somewhere of the deleted posts. On another site where I helped moderate, any posts we deleted went into a "litter basket" for a while, in case we had to follow up on them. If you haven't already asked the site owner or site techies about recovery, that's what I'd do.

I pick Internet beta readers very carefully, after considerable observation. Then I send a possible beta only one chapter or one short piece to start with. I want to see what he'll do with it: will he respond in a reasonable length of time? is he a close reader? does he know how to criticize constructively? does he understand my style and subject matter? is his input helpful? can I return the favor by profitably beta-reading his work?

I have a great beta reader working on my latest novel, and I'm enjoying working on his. A good beta is so useful and encouraging that you shouldn't give up looking for one. Moreover, beta-reading yourself is one of the best ways to improve your own writing.

As for what you could do about others posting or tampering with your work, that I don't know. Perhaps others have the legal background or experience to tell you what recourse you have and whether it's worth pursuing.
 
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However, sometimes, some of these people come back to this site as trolls and cause trouble for people if they can. This weekend just gone, was my turn, except I wasn't online to see it and someone got the troll deleted.
But whilst they were on there, they supposedly put a tract of my work on the forum there. I don't know if it was my work, if they had rearranged it and added stuff etc.

Wow! Is this so 'high school" or what? I never even considered the possibilty. I feel like a newby all over again~

Sorry this happened to you!

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I am so sorry this happened to you. This is just awful. I can't offer any suggestions or anything, but thanks for sharing your story. I will be more careful in the future. I do beta reads for people and send other people my work for their opinions. I must say that I have been lucky so far. Everyone that has read for me has been so helpful.
 

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It's unfortunate and their behaviour is certainly childish but I wouldn't worry overmuch about bastardized versions of your work appearing here and there. If they're altering it, it will become increasingly less recognizable as yours. Before you know it, some new bit of mischief will occupy them and your work will be old news.

Chances are, your final version will differ semi-significantly from the one they read anyhow. You know better now, so add it to your lessons-learned file and move on.

In a couple of years they'll be sucking up to you for signed copies. ;)
 

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Hi everyone and thank you very much for your answers and support. I was really fraught this morning over this, so took myself out for the day for a breather.
When I got back home, I e-mailed some of the people on that same forum thread and asked them what kind of thing was written; obviously no one could repeat it word for word, but I got the gist of it. I had already been told that there was a lot of smut on it... my novel doesn't have anything like that in it. Anyway, it turns out that the person who did this, had lifted text from my personal web page and thought that this was my novel! :D So I feel better about it now and don't care what they do with that.

Although I do know that certain members of that gang did have my work, I have never named them anywhere or to anyone, in hopes it wouldn't force them to reveal they had it to the others.
I'm probably not out of the woods, and yes, I have actually changed some of it since it was sent out at that time. I am now very careful who gets to read anything of mine.

Thank you once again everyone; I really appreciate your support.


Elodie
 
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