Plagiarism: Number 1 Sin?

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I'm always terrified that I'm going to accidentally copy some clever line or turn of phrase that I've read somewhere else, but don't remember reading--that when something brilliant just "comes to me", I really only think I came up with it myself. But that's just my paranoia. ^_^; Me, I experience incredible guilt just from being inspired by another writer--like, I've been wrestling with myself lately because I read a story in which the writer approached the character in a particular way, and I realized, this was exactly what my character needed all along, I just didn't know it. And maybe I would have eventually figured it out for myself, but now, because for me it has an outside source, I don't know if I should use it (especially since the characters had been in similar situations too).

I would say that plaigarism is either the writing sin, or is on par with it. It is both laziness and malicious theft. Not only is someone making money (or some other benefit) off of your hard work, but there is something deeply personal about having one's writing stolen.

Heh, I remember way back in grade school, a classmate turned in a book report that the teacher thought was suspicious. She picked up a copy of the book, and lo and behold--the summary was lifted word for word from the back cover. How dumb can you get?
 

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Well, to add to the confusion, it's not that uncommon for poets to use lines from other poems, essays, songs, etc. Typically they are cited in the back of the book but it's still a little annoying to read a poem and love ONE paticular line, only to find a "Notes" page after the last poem in the book and be told the line was from one of Walt Whitman's letters. On the other hand, I've seen a few poets do amazing things with collages and that didn't bother me as much, maybe because a 'collage' is more up front and lets the reader know right off the bat that the poet didn't write all of it.
 

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^^^^^^

Following the previous posters comments, I have had multiple creative writing professors offer up some advice on how to start a novel.

1. Take one of your favorite authors.
2. Start writing word for word one of their stories.
3. By the end of the first 100 pages, your imagination will take over and everything will change into your own concepts.

It always seemed like plagarism to me...but since it has been said multiple times by people who are informed, I almost tried it....almost!
 

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Following the previous posters comments, I have had multiple creative writing professors offer up some advice on how to start a novel.

1. Take one of your favorite authors.
2. Start writing word for word one of their stories.
3. By the end of the first 100 pages, your imagination will take over and everything will change into your own concepts.

It always seemed like plagarism to me...but since it has been said multiple times by people who are informed, I almost tried it....almost!


It's not plagiarism if you then cut those copied pages. It's not plagiarism until you put it out there.
 

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^^^^^^

Following the previous posters comments, I have had multiple creative writing professors offer up some advice on how to start a novel.

1. Take one of your favorite authors.
2. Start writing word for word one of their stories.
3. By the end of the first 100 pages, your imagination will take over and everything will change into your own concepts.

It always seemed like plagarism to me...but since it has been said multiple times by people who are informed, I almost tried it....almost!

If you want you can type out the entire uncut version of King's "The Stand" word for word and it won't be plagiarism. Plagiarism kicks in as soon as you say it's yours. Until then it's just an exercise.
 

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It's also sobering how many younger people especially seem to feel that creative works should be free and passed around with no compensation to the author. The schools appear to be missing the boat in teaching the difference between information -- which should be free and available to all, and entertainment -- which was created by someone, usually to earn income, and should be viewed as intellectual property that belongs to its creator, to be treated with respect.


As someone who taught composition, I disagree that all schools are missing the boat. Some schools are teaching this, and are adamant about it, especially at the college level. But it is also a message that is diluted by the current culture of downloads and instant information gratification.

I checked every paper against a variety of sources (including a subscription-based site the school provided). And made my students aware of this. The department policy was: you plagiarize - you fail. And on the university level, students could be expelled for instances of plagiarism. After my lectures and discussion sessions on plagiarism and proper citation, I never had a problem.

I will say that many had not received such training in high school - although I know I did. I also know many high school teachers who are teaching this.

I think it is an important issue - definitely one of the biggies. Plagiarizing is stealing - period. :Soapbox:
 
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