Favorite books on writing

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Jamesaritchie

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mesh138 said:
First 5 pages and Stephen King's writing book are the only two worth a damn.


I'd forgotten about first five pages. I would ask you to reconsider Bradbury's book. I think it may be even better and more useful than King's, though it's a toss up with me.

I also think Pat Walsh is well worth reading, not for how-to advice, but for what not to advice, and how badly many new writers mess up submissions advice.
 

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Books

Oh, and two books I've found extremely useful are "Lapsing Into a Comma," and "The Elephants of Style" by Bill Walsh, one of the best copy editors in the business. I'd also recommend his website. http://www.theslot.com/
 

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After reading through the rest of things, and thinking about it myself (as well as buying a few of the books -- How to Write & Sell Your First Novel, and both King's and Bradbury's books) I must say that I've learned that books and segments I receive in my English class are particularly useful to me not for the reason that they tell me how to do things, but rather because they give me an idea to base my own ideas or better educate me one aspects of the novel. To tell the truth, I tend to do things my own way regardless of how I'm told to do them unless it makes sense to me and proves to work for me, otherwise I do my own thing (even if it means sacrificing a bit of my grade).

There are a few things that, when I approach my own pieces of writing, I learn that I don't have as firm a grasp on them as I had thought. I do read a lot, acclaimed authors because I find their writing to be good and their pieces interesting and not pointless like so many others that some people are into (specifically my own generation, which bothers me). Yet I have a problem with plot especially, and some of the character archetypes, so when I can get my hands on a good piece about elements of literature I like to read them so that I can better understand and thus use these elements in my own pieces (sometimes I even get ideas for my own pieces). That's the reason I like these kind of books and would caution others who are seriously starting out: don't use these as you would assembly instructions for your pool, use them instead as inspiration or materials to pick and choose from in order to create your own design or style, they'll serve you much better in this way.

With that said, I have a question for those of you who can provide me an answer: among these other books, and the majority of you seem to especially favor King's book, where would you place the Writer's Digest books in regard to their usefulness in writing?

I was looking at those which my Barnes & Noble had on their shelves and realized that if they were as good as some of these others that they might be worth my buying for later reference (that is if they have something that the others do not). I decided to get the opinions of others on this since these books were so specialized and were, on average, about fifteen bucks or something like that. I realized that they had exercises and such, but I had no intention of using those, I'm more interested in the rest of the book.
 

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Stephen King's On Writing is the best! I could tell how much it helped me right after I finished it, in a matter of days. I could see an improvement that quickly. Long-term effect, even more so. I followed this book and it turned me into a novelist. I guess the ability was in me all along, but this book just helped me figure out how to tune in to it.

It also changed the way I look at books I read. If an author commits the Cardinal Sins of Writing, as I like to call them, (overuse of adverbs, bad dialogue tags, etc) I pick up on it right away. I started reading a book about a month ago that did these things, and I couldn't stand it, so I put it down. I won't name names, but it made me realize that I know more about (or at least abide by more) the rules of writing than do some well-known authors. If it weren't for On Writing, I wouldn't have learned these things. I don't think I committed them too much before I read it anyway, but it set the rules right out in front of me and set me straight about them.
 

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I read Stephen King's On Writing several years ago when I first started dabbling in writing. I remember thinking that it was interesting, but that's about it.

I read it again about 2 years or so ago, but this time I highlighted a lot of things that jumped out at me that I hadn't noticed the first time around.

I'm now reading it through for the 3rd time, and I think it's a brilliant piece of work.

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I'm getting On Writing tomorrow and have First 5 pages, which I recommend.
I had Steering the Craft in my hand today at the book store.
 

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Made a list from the suggestions that you all gave on this thread, and discovered that my local library system only has 4 of them!
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Looks like I'll be adding to my amazon wish list....
 

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My library had two. Sad, isn't it?

I'm a serious book-collector, but what I've found is that nearly every single book that I've picked up on writing shared one or two common ideas, and have a different opinion on everything else. It's confusing.

I don't think a book can teach you to be a writer. It can only tell you what other people do. There are books, however, that can help you write better prose. I think there's a huge difference between the two things. I have a friend who tells lovely stories, in great detail...but cannot get them down in writing to save his life. It's not just a matter of punctuation and dialog tags, it's as if he is completely tone-deaf on paper. I think it's because he doesn't read very much. Someone earlier posted that you learn to write by reading things and seeing what works.

Thanks everyone for the suggested list -- anything helps!
 

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What's really remarkable and maybe even sad, is that I have 90% of the books mentioned in this thread and several that are not listed here. As I read another poster's remark, I also don't like essay-type/composition writing books. I don't have the time to write in those when I can be doing my own writing.
 

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For Inspiration and Motivation:

Ralph Keyes' The Writer's Book of Hope
Ralph Keyes' The Courage to Write

The Craft of Writing:

Dwight Swain's Techniques of the Selling Writer
Steven King's On Writing
Gotham Writer's Workshop: Writing Fiction
Any of Sol Stein's instruction/insight books are great.

For a different Perspective:

Chris Vogler's The Writer's Journey

For the Short Story:
The Art & Craft of the Short Story by Rick Demarinis

There are many books out there, I've read a ton but I've included the ones that helped me the most, and had something different to offer than the average, run of the mill instructional books.

Strangely enough, I get alot of insight out of certain screen-writing dvds & books. The disciplines of novel writing and screenwriting are very different, obviously but there are many over-lapping principles and alot can be learned that also applies to novel & short story writing if it is approached in a certain way. I have noticed that some of the better screen writing teachers (in my opinion) are far clearer and more direct in the presentation of certain types of information (Dialogue, for instance) than many how-to books by novel writers.
 

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Shadow_Ferret said:
Even if we don't care much for Stephen King?

I actually don't believe I own any books on writing. I have grammar books, dictionaries, thesauri, editing books, spelling books, Strunk and White's Elements of Style, but no writing books per se.

It really is a fantastic book on the craft of writing. Even if you don't like Stephen King as a novelist (don't read his material), its a great book, because he isn't trying to get you to write like he does. Its about giving you the freedom to use your own voice and having your recognize the tools you need to accomplish that effectively. If nothing else it is very empowering. As a person who has written since I could pick up a pencil, I wrote many short stories and poems but always dreamed of writing a novel. I wondered if I had what it took to write a novel and it held me back for a while. After reading his book, I believed I could and I started! It's all about the tools you have to use and working hard at increasing the tools in the tool box. It is a wonderful book.

I have made a list of several of the other recommendations here and will be going to the library tonight!

Thanks for this list!

Trish
 

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BuffStuff said:
For a different Perspective:

Chris Vogler's The Writer's Journey


Excellent choice, BuffStuff!

This book takes an essential look at the heart of storytelling.
I'm sure glad someone else has discovered it.
 

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Grasshopper,

Thanks. I remember that before I actually ordered the book, I was a bit hesitant to do so after hearing some of the negative "press" about it from readers but I was pleasantly surprised to find that the Hero's Journey structure wasn't formulaic in the slightest if a person took the time to apply it correctly. Most structuring techniques and methods teach the same mechanics and couch them in different Terminology. But I have found that this fact doesn't invalidate the importance of the different structures and their particular terminologies and metaphors.

On the contrary, it is important (in my opinion, at least) to pick one that...resonates with you. I found that the Hero's Journey has alot in common with many other Structures, but for me, that particular metaphor is what got alot of things to.... *Click* in my mind. That and...it sounded really cool. I'd always thought of myself as a writing Hero, and so what better story-structure to cut my teeth on than the Hero's Journey 0_0
 

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On Writing is definitely the best I've read but I also have one called Forest For the Trees: An Editors Advice To Writers by Betsy Lerner. I really enjoyed it...in fact, I've read it three times. She has some really great advice.

I also have Writing Down the Bones...which turned out to be the biggest waste of money I've ever had the misfortune to spend.
 

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I liked Write Away by Elizabeth George, especially her bits on dialogue.
I'm currently reading Spunk and Bite, which says much of Strunk and White's work is outdated. I certainly don't agree with all of it, for example, I'll never like adverbs except in rare instances, and flowery dialogue tags are still for the birds. But it does generate some thought on vivid color descriptions, past vs. present tense, and updated uses of punctuation in certain situations. Good food for thought.
 

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Prosthetic Foreheads said:
Just wondering what you all think about Writing the Breakout Novel by Donald Maass.
I recently read it and it was a huge inspiration; I'm in exactly the position he discusses, so it was extremly useful to me, but it woul dhave been helpful if I'd read it before ever starting to write.

The book that first inspired me to write was Dorothea Brande's Becoming a Writer. She does not teach the techniques of writing, but rather shows you how to access the creativity within you. I know that kind of thing is not for everybody, but it is NOT mumbo jumbo - it's very practical and down to earth.

Like James, I found Writing Down the Bones hugely overrated =- it had nothing whatever to say to me, and I can't understand what people see in it. Load of crap!

Unlike seemingly everyone else here, On Writing was not groundbreaking for me. I skipped the autobiographical parts, and the parts on writing were good but I've found more help with other books.

Orson Scott Card is great. I read him in a volume called How to Write a Million, which was in three parts. The parts on plot and character were excellent, the part on dialogue mediocre.
 

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Bigbunny said:
I liked Write Away by Elizabeth George, especially her bits on dialogue.

I like that one a lot. She's one of my favorite writers. It was interesting to see how she does her research.

Cheryll
 
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