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CaoPaux said:
Victoria, in another thread you inferred that The Literary Group had measurable success despite "problems". Do you think they've now abandoned all pretence?
I must have been referring to Literary Group International, a.k.a. The Literary Group, which is a very successful agency (though I've received a small but consistent body of complaints about one agent there)--and not the same as Robert Fletcher's The Literary Agency Group Inc.

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I'm only a first year law student but even I can see this threat is bogus. Bobby, as the Plantiff, would have to prove that any statements made about his agency, or his person, were made knowing they were false and done intentionally to slander his reputation. Good luck, bro. Why do you think there are so few libel suits filed and fewer ever going to trial and even fewer resulting in judgement for the plantiff? When it comes to the free speech, the courts always err on the side on caution.
 

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Dear Robert,

Your letter is dated April 15th. Interestingly, I haven't yet received it. Gee, certified mail takes an awfully long time.

Thank you, by the way, for posting my street address. That was thoughtful. I've edited your original post to remove it.

Though others have already done so, I feel compelled to respond.

RobertF said:
The totals given above are referenceable and documentable. We have to document everything given the scrutiny that we live under.
Same here.
Anybody here try to get to a literary agent that will actually talk to a new author? It doesn't happen.
Nonsense.
So what happens because of Ms. Strauss and others, is that a new author goes through our process, does some research and then gets scared off.
That's the idea, yes.
We would have that author in front of real buyers within 30 days. That's the real truth, you can spend the rest of your life looking for an agent that will take you on for 'free', or you can get into a process that will tell you if your work is sellable very quickly.
It that's the case, you have a unique knack for taking on unsellable manuscripts. Let's see, in nearly four years of operation (you took over ST Literary Agency--oops, Stylus Literary Agency, then known as Sydra Techniques, in 2001) you claim, what is it, three sales? Four? The Literary Group, the successful agency whose name is similar to the name of your new enterprise, probably sells that many manuscripts in a month.
Our Agencies are willing to incubate new authors. We're willing to spend time working with them to improve their work We present options to them and they can choose any company that they choose for the services they need.
Services you own and/or run, from which you make a secret profit (since the connection isn't disclosed to clients). Documentation I've collected shows that you're referring clients to (at least) two different editing services, both run by the same individual, who also worked or works as an agent for ST Literary Agency--oops, Stylus Literary Agency; and (at least) one illustration service, run by RapidPublishing, which processes ST Literary Agency's--oops, Stylus Literary Agency's--invoices. Recommending that clients use a third-party service from which the agency receives a profit is a practice that has been so extensively abused that it's prohibited by the AAR.

we've offered to publish an interview with Ms. Strauss on numerous occassions.
That must have been some other Ms. Strauss, because I don't remember ever getting such an offer.

Seriously, though, this sounds like a great idea. I accept your offer. I'd love to do an interview. Bring on the questions!
We are beginning a series of lawsuits against her and other bulletin board moderators and posters.
This I will believe when I see it.

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Responding now to the lawyer letter:
April 15, 2005
Gosh, the US mail is inefficient! I'm still waiting.
Mr. Fletcher advises that you have contacted one of his clients Michael Graham
Mr. Graham is not a writer, but an illustrator who worked on the self-published book of a business associate of Mr. Fletcher's. I somehow doubt he's a client, but since the empire is obviously expanding I suppose it's not beyond the realm of possibility.

I did contact Mr. Graham, because I found Mr. Graham's illustrations on the website of RapidPublishing.com (the service that clients of Fletcher's Children's Literary Agency are encouraged to use), and wondered if he was aware of this.
and circulated untrue and derogatory statements about him and his businesses. These statements include, but are not limited to, untruths such as that he is engaging in unprofessional conduct in the publishing industry, that he does not disclose his interest in services he recommends to clients, and that he and his company are dishonest and guilty of unfair business practices.
I've made these same statements many times in many different venues. They're either fully supported by documentation in my possession, or identified as my opinion. (Jaws has trained me well.)
These statements adversely affect the reputation of Mr. Fletcher and his businesses. We have advised Mr. Fletcher of his rights under applicable defamation laws for such statements in the form of injunctive relief and the award of money damages.
OK. But it's not defamatory if it's true (you knew that, right?)
Accordingly, demand is hereby made that you immediately cease and desist circulating any further derogatory statements about Mr. Fletcher and his businesses. Demand is also hereby made for a public retraction and apology for these statements, within ten (10) days.
I'll note (again) that I haven't received this letter.

Lessee. April 15th to April 22nd is seven (7) days. Time is running out!
Your failure to respond as demanded herein shall be considered as an intention on your part to refuse to amicably resolve this dispute between you and Mr. Fletcher. You will therefore leave us no choice but to advise our client concerning the avenues available under Florida and other applicable laws to enjoin publication of defamatory statements and recover money damages.
Be my guest.

Very truly yours,

- Victoria Strauss
 

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victoriastrauss said:
... Literary Group International, a.k.a. The Literary Group, which is a very successful agency ... not the same as Robert Fletcher's The Literary Agency Group Inc.

Ah, the old stunt of a scammer picking a name that's very similar to the name of a legitimate business, in the hopes that the marks will get confused. Good job, Boppin' Bobby!

Let's look at the Stylus Literary Agency page (formerly ST Literary Agency):

April 2005 Update- At this time we have 68 active conversations ongoing with publishers, 3 book contracts in negotiations, and 3 screenplays in pre-option territory.


Wow. "Active conversations." What exactly does that mean, Bobby? You send 'em something, they send it back with lightning speed and a standard rejection form? That's an "active conversation." And this screenplay that I have right here in my desk drawer. It's in "pre-option territory" too.

Let's look a little further. Am I right in thinking that what you post on your webpage is the best that you've got?

Also, we are pleased to announce our next two deals: Pastor Billy for his Christian book, A Marriage Built To Last, and Mr. Stenger for Where Do the Laws of Physics Come From?, a fascinating physics work.

A Marriage Built to Last by Rev. Billy Crone is coming out from Mapletree. They're a startup LDS publisher, they don't require an agent, and they may not pay advances. Isn't it true that Rev. Billy sold this book himself?

Where Do the Laws of Physics Come From? by Victor J. Stenger is being published by Prometheus Books. Dr. Stenger has been publishing regularly with Prometheus since 1988. That's over a decade before Sydra Techniques oops! ST Literary Agency oops! Stylus Literary Agency was founded. Perhaps he's taken leave of his senses and signed with you, but isn't it true that Dr. Stenger sold this book, not you?

So the question still on the table, Bobby, is: What have you sold? To anyone? C'mon. You've been in business for years. You must have sold something.


 

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victoriastrauss said:
I must have been referring to Literary Group International, a.k.a. The Literary Group, which is a very successful agency (though I've received a small but consistent body of complaints about one agent there)--and not the same as Robert Fletcher's The Literary Agency Group Inc.

- Victoria
Aha! Thanks, I'll tweak the index accordingly.
 

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Okay, Robert, I don't like being slighted. I demand that you send me one of your letters. Surely, you can afford for your lawyers to send out another one? If I don't have a letter in the next hour, I'm going to create a special warning about Sydra-Techniques, er, S.T., er, Stylus Literary (cough, gag) Agency (more coughing and gagging) in the P&E web sites.
 

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James D. Macdonald said:
Yep! ST Literary Agency (Sydra Techniques) is now calling itself Stylus Literary Agency.

They apparently did a global search-and-replace on their website and changed every instance of ST Literary Agency to "Our Literary Agency."

Not to worrry. ST Literary, aka S.T. Literary Agency is the same as Stylus Literary agency.

They missed a bit, though:

As a part of our commitment to global distribution for our authors, ST Literary Agency has exhibited
at Book Expo,Chicago and in Frankfurt, Germany at the Bookfair.


Could you get that cleaned up, Robert? People will know who you are.



Good goin', Bobby! He's fixed his web page. The bit I quoted above, with "ST Literary Agency" on it, now reads:

As a part of our commitment to global distribution for our authors, the Literary Agency has exhibited
at Book Expo,Chicago and in Frankfurt, Germany at the Bookfair.


Shall I send you a bill for web development? Oh -- you forgot to add the space after the comma in Book Expo,Chicago. Do I have to do everything for you? Isn't there anyone on your staff who can do simple editing?

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Stylus Literary Agency and Children's Literary Agency share a mailing address at 275 Madison Ave., 4th Floor in New York City. This is the address of a mail forwarding service. Their offices' actual addresses could be anywhere.



 
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James D. Macdonald said:
Good goin', Bobby! He's fixed his web page. The bit I quoted above, with "ST Literary Agency" on it, now reads: (etc)
Just goes to show you that they watch this forum closely. Notice how fast he was to respond after we noticed and reported the name change?
 

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victoriastrauss said:
...but I still haven't gotten that certified letter.

Oh, dear, Victoria. I imagine that you're quaking in your (rather stylish) shoes. Whatever will you do if the deadline goes by before you even get The Letter from those lawyers of his?

It was over a year ago that Boppin' Bobby Fletcher promised "I absolutely guarantee the lawsuits are going to fly."

Doesn't look like they flew. Do you think they had to take the bus? Maybe they had to walk. Do you suppose the lawsuits got lost and had to ask for directions?

No, I think that there aren't any lawsuits, and aren't going to be any lawsuits, because Robert Fletcher doesn't ever want to see the inside of a courtroom again. Last time he was there he didn't do so well.
 

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Just a bit OT here, but I just wanted to thank James and Victoria for their tireless efforts to thwart this kind of garbage. My first publication happened a year ago, and it's only by the grace of God that I didn't wind up under this kind of scam. You guys (as well as the rest, but James and Victoria seem to be the ring leaders) are to be commended for your truthful, and entertaining, posts concerning this matter.
Thanks.
 

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Robert Fletcher, Bring it on!

Bobby, Baby, Writer Beware would love nothing better than for you to fulfill your ridiculous threats about suing us, but know they're as bogus as your sleazy "literary agencies."

Writer Beware can, and will, document everything we've ever said about you in a court of law or to the authorities.

Say, Bobby, noticed that you've been having to refund a lot of $$ these days? You can thank us for that. And we're going to keep telling people you've scammed exactly how to get those refunds.

You can't stop us, you can't intimidate us, you can't shut us up.

Sue away, Bobby baby. I double-dawg DARE ya.

Signed,

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Ann C. Crispin
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Good Morning,

I have a question. If everyone is so against St. Literary Agence and The Children's Literary Agency, why do you permit them to advertise their company at the top of your page?



Diana
 

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Sparkle said:
Good Morning,

I have a question. If everyone is so against St. Literary Agence and The Children's Literary Agency, why do you permit them to advertise their company at the top of your page?

Diana

Because Google Ads do not have a built-in sense of irony. They are placed there by a computer program that reads the page and tries its best to guess what ads to put based on what is on the page. They see references to these agencies and so the program thinks people are looking for the agencies. You can give a computer artificial intelligence, but you can't give it artificial common sense.

I'm not sure how easy it is to keep a particular company's ads out of Google Ads. It can be done in some cases, but trying to block all the literary scams would be difficult.
 

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Sparkle said:
Good Morning,

I have a question. If everyone is so against St. Literary Agence and The Children's Literary Agency, why do you permit them to advertise their company at the top of your page?



Diana

Blame Google adwords. Curse those clever computers! ;)
 

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Sparkle said:
I have a question. If everyone is so against St. Literary Agence and The Children's Literary Agency, why do you permit them to advertise their company at the top of your page?

Those are Google Ads. We don't have a choice about them. Google puts 'em in based on the page's content, and when the content is "literary scam" then Stylus Literary Agency (ST Literary Agency) is the first one that pops up.

Rule of thumb: If an agent (or publisher) advertises via Google ads, or in the back of writers' magazines, they're a scam.
 

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Google Ads

Those are Google Ads. We don't have a choice about them. Google puts 'em in based on the page's content, and when the content is "literary scam" then Stylus Literary Agency (ST Literary Agency) is the first one that pops up.

Actually you do have a choice. Google allows webmasters to block certain URLs (they call it the comptetitive ad filter). You paste the URL you want blocked into a list and any ads that go to that URL will no longer show up. It can take 24 - 48 hours to be applied.

I've had Google ads up for a couple of months now and check them every other week to see if any inappropriate (i.e. scam) ads are showing up. When they do I filter them. I doubt I've gotten them all yet, but that's why I keep checking.
 

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I received the same material that you have. Wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole. When they begin to ask for money let them know you are not interested. Sorry to say this but the enormously long email they send after receiving your manuscript is full of confusing junk and just an opener to get much more money than it initially mentions. Find an agent that asks you to send your work in paper form via the US postal service. I wish you luck in your work.
Ruth
 

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James D. Macdonald said:
Yo, Jenna! Can we keep Bozo Bobby and his friends' ads out of here?

Man! I DID, but then they got new urls. I'll blacklist 'em.
 
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Guess what? I got the letter.

It's word for word the same as what Mr. Fletcher posted here, with just one teensy difference--the date. In Mr. Fletcher's post, the date was April 15, but the date (and postmark) on the copy I received is April 22--the very day Mr. Fletcher posted here. Hmmmm.

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*rolls her eyes* I'm sure you're just a'quaking and a'shaking in your boots now! NOT! As others have said before me, you have to prove several elements to prove libel/slander, and Mr. Fletcher can't even prove element one much less all of them. I'm surprised you actually got the letter!