"20 years later..."

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First, thanks to everyone who responded to my "Cinematic writing in novels" thread. Greatly appreciated.

Now, I've written the first 3000 words of my novel which is based on a screenplay I wrote a few years ago. My story basically consists of two storylines. The first one takes place in my protagonist's childhood (5 y.o.), the other in his adulthood (25 y.o.). Between those two story lines there's a gap of twenty years during which nothing particular relevant happens, except for the fact that my protagonist trains in the art of swordsmanship and becomes a skilled swordsman (this is somewhat important).

A film director might use a superimposition, e.g. "20 years later", to show the audience that the following events take place twenty years later. In spec writing this is sometimes frowned upon so I used a visual device in my screenplay to imply the time jump. Problem is, this device, smooth as it is, won't work for a novel.

Since I rely so much on "show" in my novel, it feels awkward to have a large "tell" chunk in the middle of these two storylines to sort of tie them together. And I'm not too keen on the idea of using the dreaded "20 years later" either as it seems like a lazy, easy-way-out solution.

So my question is... when a story starts out in protagonist's childhood, jumps twenty years ahead and continues in his adulthood (think Braveheart), how would a good novelist go about writing this so the transition doesn't seem lazy and awkward.

If you know some good published examples, I'm of course interested in getting my hands on those. Thanks in advance.
 

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If the childhood is not the heart of the plot, then I would start with the MC as an adult and move back to explain the childhood where necessary through the narration of the adult MC plot.
 

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Using dates on the chapters is one way to do it.

Like:
Chapter One
Summer, 1973

then:
Chapter Two
Christmas, 1990
 

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And yes, dates before chapters, as siddow suggests.

Some books I've read use dates and the name of the POV character at the beginning of each chapter. keeping the reader straight on all of it, which I found very helpful.
 

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Stew21,

Some of the most important events in the story takes place in the childhood storyline. They are not only essential to the plot, they're also vital in establishing the setting of the story, "the world" so to speak. Many of those early scenes are quite effective as "show" scenes, but would be incredibly dull if I simply accounted them through narration later on. Of course I could use scores of flashbacks, but this approach strikes me as even more amateurish.
 

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That's a good question right now.
Dates before chapters is one way, as Siddow suggests. There is also nothing wrong with simply saying, "Twenty years later, MC..." That is, if it works for the story you're telling.

The important thing is, don't overcomplicate something that should be a relatively simple transition.
 

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I'm not recommending flashbacks at all. Just wanted to say that you want to make sure that it's not all just back ground and "world-building" that happens in that first set and that it also has significant plot. if it is all forward moving plot, then of course it needs it's own stage. I never recommend flashbacks, though they are necessary to some stories. Sometimes a weaving of past and present is helpful too. (alternate chapters), the arcs and climaxes of each storyline can be achieved at the same time.

I don't know your story, obviously. It was just a suggestion.
 

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Stew 21,

I hear ya :)


Siddow,

Interesting. Worth considering. Although it would probably be an inconstant approach since the majority of the story doesn't have significant time jumps. It might look silly to have that "stamp" on, say, two out of seventy chapters.


Birol,

Maybe you're right about there being nothing wrong with "Twenty years later, MC...". It could simply be my screenwriting background that's messing with my head. Maybe this is the smoothest way after all...
 

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You could have something a little more creative than just 'twenty years later...' Have that section begin with a scene that clearly shows your MC in his new situation - at work, with his wife, whatever it is. Have a reference to some well-known event that will pin down the time for your reader.

Also - does it matter if your reader doesn't know that it's precisely twenty years at this stage? So long as it's clear your MC is now an adult, does it matter if they're 25 or 27 or 23?

Oh, and instead of giving time stamps, why not just 'Part 1' and 'Part 2' to indicate the gap?
 

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girlyswot said:
You could have something a little more creative than just 'twenty years later...' Have that section begin with a scene that clearly shows your MC in his new situation - at work, with his wife, whatever it is. Have a reference to some well-known event that will pin down the time for your reader.

Yea, I think you're right. I'll have to brainstorm this one. I want it to be as smooth and organic as possible, without confusing the reader too much.

girlyswot said:
Also - does it matter if your reader doesn't know that it's precisely twenty years at this stage? So long as it's clear your MC is now an adult, does it matter if they're 25 or 27 or 23?

No, it doesn't matter.
 

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just put "20 years later... " at the top of the page. I've seen it done.
 

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I wouldn't even put that. I'd just have a chapter break and then go on with the story, no explanation. If your character has the same name, the reader is gonna get it.

Incidentally, how big is your first chunk, where the MC is 5? Just the 3,000 words? If so it could (don't throw things at me, please) be a prologue, or chapter 1. If it's more like half the book, part 1 and part 2 would work.

In my book, I had almost exactly this time-difference. I had my MC at 6 and I had him at 26. What I had were essentially two entirely different stories (which were also related in some ways). So each chapter began with a section from the character at 6 years old, and the rest of the chapter was him at 26, in the "main" storyline. This worked very well because the two sections played off of one another. However it gave the story a more literary feel, which may not be what you want if you're going for more of an action/thriller. But what I liked about it was the fact that I could reveal things incrementally rather than putting everything up front.
 

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Not sure if it would work with your story, but I did read a series once (the Mage Worlds books by Debra Doyle and James MacDonald) that broke up the back story of several characters into little mini-chapters that were used throughout the books.

The back story was obviously important, but rather than put it all in one chunk (and since these books have several central characters in addition to the MC) they spread it out so that the relevant pieces of back story mirrored the contemporary story. To keep things straight they used dates/locations at the top of each chapter. (Sort of like what JoNightshade was suggesting.)

Of course they used this approach in all of those books (I think there were like seven total) so they had put a good bit of work into the back story. And they didn't do every other chapter, it was just kind of spread out.

Just something to consider. You might find as you write that the twenty year gap has material that doesn't make for complete chapters but could be used as highlights in the MC's growth.
 

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Ron McLarty's Memory of Running alternated chapters back and forth past and present and it worked well.
 

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Shakespeare just aged Hamlet without notifying the audience directly. He is 19ish at the beginning, as proved by the events and timing of the story, then by the end he is said to be 30. There is no proof, no evidence, and none needed.

Then again, one can just cut scene and make the person older.
 

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A cinematic device that translates well to prose is the use of a focal point. An object that you see at the end of one scene, fading out, and when things fade back that object is old and rusted. Like a car. At the end of one chapter you could describe a pristine automobile, at the beginning of the next you could describe a dusty old thing with no wheels. Give enough clues that it's the same car, and you're set.
 
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