Double Spaced or Single Spaced?

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When an agent [miraculously] asks for x-many pages, do you send it as single spaced? or double spaced?

An agent asked for the first 10pages to be sent in the body of the email. I'm a bit unclear as to whether or not it is 10pages as a result of double spacing, or 10pages that are single spaced.

To me, it is the following:
5 single spaced pages -> about 10 double spaced pages
10 -> about 20
etc.

Is there a general rule?
 

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All pages of the manuscript whether 5 pages or 10+ are 1 inch margin double spaced UNLESS you are emailing them in the body of the email.
 

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For the ten pages in the body of the email - take the first 10 double spaced pages - and change to single space and paste in the email...
 

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When an agent [miraculously] asks for x-many pages, do you send it as single spaced? or double spaced?

They mean "the equivalent of x double-spaced pages." Take your first x pages and reformat them and send them.
 

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For the ten pages in the body of the email - take the first 10 double spaced pages - and change to single space and paste in the email...

so 10 would become 5 or so,right?
 

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I can't imagine why you would reformat and single-space the material. You can have it double-spaced. Set Word to be your email editor and you can use every feature that Word has in creating your email.

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Andrew - the OP was asked by the agency to copy his work into the email itself. You can't double space an email. In this situation, considering the email would be single spaced, he was curious if he should take the first 10 pages as in 10 pages double spaced or single spaced. People here advised him for the former.

What do you think, considering he has to paste the text into the body of the email? Should he do the first 10 double spaced pages or single spaced?
 

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I can't imagine why you would reformat and single-space the material. You can have it double-spaced. Set Word to be your email editor and you can use every feature that Word has in creating your email.

And it will often be received on the other end as a mash of gobbledegook.

Pasting simple text into an email is really the best way to do things. Your email server settings apparently preserve formatting--that's awesome, but the OP here has no way of knowing if the person he's emailing to has similar settings.
 

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Folks, you need to learn to use your software. The vast majority of users in the US are using Microsoft Outlook or Outlook Express. I know ONE agent who uses a Mac, out of the many agents I know. I used to know two, but the other one gave up and bought a PC.

Outlook will certainly use Microsoft Word as your email editor and you can format as needed. I'm not 100% sure about Outlook Express, but if you have Word, there is a "Send" option under File that I believe will use whatever you default email program is, including Express. Assuming the agent hasn't set his or her email to read everything in plain text, it will show up exactly as you sent it. If he or she has set it to read in plain text, then he or she will get plain text and have to deal with it.

Google and Yahoo will let you paste in double-spaced text and Google Docs will let you write in double-spaced text and then email it. Of the two, Google Docs is probably the better option, as that is an actual word-processing program.

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Lots of assumptions there Andrew (that people have the software in the first place, heck even have a PC, not to mention the fact that some people, no matter how hard they try to learn, really have difficulties with anything more than the basics with email etc). I honestly don't see why, if the agent has requested the pages be in the body of the email, they couldn't copy the single spaced words, paste them into word, and click "double space".

Of course you will tell me this is yet another something that the author would do that would make the agent think less favourably about them. I'm sorry but I just can't agree with you that ALL agents think like that. Maybe the ones you know (and obviously you personally do), but I know quite a few agents now myself, and they are quite the opposite.

Nonetheless. You give interesting advice, and mention techniques I'd never known of, so I am going to definitely give them a try. So thanks for the info.
 

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Um, we are discussing emailing an agent. Assuming, then, that folks have computers and email software is safe, then, is it not?

Then the question was whether the request of X pages meant single- or double-spaced. As every agent and editor will tell you that every submission should be double-spaced, the answer is double-spaced. The question then becomes how to accomplish that via an email. Many here seemed to be implying it was very difficult. All I did was clarify that it is NOT difficult.

As for those having trouble.... Listen, while I'm sure there are still some authors pounding away at typewriters and getting published, they are in the vast minority. Perhaps even 1% or less of books getting published today. Since nearly every publishing contract REQUIRES the author to include the electronic file of the ms when deliverying, if you are not writing on a computer and you are serious about getting published, it's time to start writing on a computer.

Nearly every public library has computers available and most of those computers have web access. Thus, all any author has to do is get a Gmail account at docs.google.com and they can write on the computer as long as the librarian will let them.

If you wanted to be a painter and this was a website about painting, no one would ever question the assumption that you need to have paint and brushes and canvas or masonite or something else to paint ON. Similarly, if you want to be a writer and get published in today's electronic age, you need a computer and word-processing software or access to a computer and a site like Google Docs.

And I will go a step further: You need a laser printer. I know that tons of folks have inkjet printers and that inkjet printers often do a very good job. But I also see a lot of crappy inkjet printing jobs. Recently I read a manuscript of nearly 600 pages and three or four times the type got streaky and hard to read because the cartridge was running out. Now, I won't even begin to wonder about a cartridge that only prints 200 pages or so, but I will bring to your attention that Kinko's, Staples, and Office Depot all offer very reasonably priced printing options using online services. You go to their site and register and then you can upload your manuscript and select the printing options. For a full manuscript, it's often 5 cents per page or less, which is a heck of a lot cheaper than printing using your inkjet cartridge. And the results will be superior. And if you get light or badly printed pages, they reprint them for free. Does your inkjet printer do that?

Being a writer is like being a small business owner. Invest in the equipment and services you need to make your business a success. If you don't know how to use your software, buy a book or a DVD that will teach you. Or use any of the many free tutorials that can be found online. There is simply no excuse for an author to not know how to center something without hitting the tab or space bar. To not know how to include page numbers on every page, along with their name and the title. To not know how to search for and remove all of the extraneous spaces, tabs, hard returns, etc. I won't accept that any more than I will accept my drycleaner not knowing how to press a shirt or get a stain out. I won't accept that any more than I will accept a plumber telling me he doesn't have a plunger. There are basic tools and skills everyone in business has to have, even writers.

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The key thing, LordDelusions, is that if an agent asks for 10 pages, he or she wants no more than 2500 words. However you choose to format your email.