If you're as sick and depraved as I am, follow my sig to Murky Depths and watch their YouTube commercial. I damned near wet my pants!
Warning: Overtly gross subject matter.
Pike
Warning: Overtly gross subject matter.
Pike
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I watched. No sound here, but I guess the content is pretty self-explanatory.
Oh, and thanks for giving us another market. I'll be looking forward to seeing your story this spring. Don't forget to give us a heads up when it's out.
Issue #3 of Murky Depths is at the printers so it might just start shipping before the end of this month. Dylan Williams has done an amazing job on Pike's "Duchess" . . . be scared!
Oh, yes. And feel free to comment about the video at the Murky Depths' Forum. Glad you liked it Pike!
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Aha! So you're the Murkey Depths guy, huh?
Welcome, Lucifal. I hope you get lots of subs from our peeps here in AW's horror forum.
Yup, that's me. If you can tint your horror with a touch of dystopian sci-fi all the better. I currently have about 50 stories I'm dealing with - there the ones that have come back to me from my editors for a decision - not many have scored a "1". I'll tell you about our submissions system some day
Yup, that's me. If you can tint your horror with a touch of dystopian sci-fi all the better. I currently have about 50 stories I'm dealing with - there the ones that have come back to me from my editors for a decision - not many have scored a "1". I'll tell you about our submissions system some day
bolding mine.
You can tell us, Lucifal. We won't tell anyone else.
Thanks, Terry! I haven't looked at the story in so long I forgot her name. I'm psyched about Dylan's interpertation, and seeing the rest of the mag.
BTW - Welcome to the boards! (Pulls head out of backside) Oh, that was a tad belated.
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Issue #3 has been delayed by two weeks waiting on an interview with Stan Nicholls, else it'd be available right now. He was trying to hit a publishing deadline. Unfortunately Murky Depths had to take second place to the business of making money. It was worth waiting for though, but I made the mistake of asking him what he thought of Murky Depths (there were a lot of typos in his story in Issue #2)!
The submissions process is no big secret and simple as hell. When submissions arrive I send them out to my editors. They score a story between 1 and 4 with 1 being, in their opinion, right for MD and publishable. "Ones" stand the most chance of being in the magazine, but it's not guaranteed. If a story does score a 1 it then does the rounds with ALL the editors, but it's still down to me at the end of the day whether a story makes it or not. "Twos" come back to me as well and I'll either reject them immediately, mull on them, or ask for second opinions from the other editors. "Threes" sometimes come back to me but 4s never do, they (and about half the 3s) are rejected by my editors. So it's 85% certain that if you receive a rejection from anyone but me it wasn't a Murky Depths' story (although I also carry out some first readings too if I have the time) and likely received a 3 or 4 from the editors. Doesn't mean it's a crap story, just that it's not right for us.
I'm still working through 2s from as far back as December I'm afraid, whereas some rejections have been turned around in a day. So the old axim that the longer a magazine has a story the more chance there is of it being accepted holds true. A query letter at the wrong moment can flip a decision the wrong way! But I am a writer too, like my editors, so we do our best to turn stories around as quickly as possible, and the likelihood is the better the story the more feedback we'll give (but that isn't always received very well! A shame, as we're only trying to be helpful.).
Hope that was interesting!
The submissions process is no big secret and simple as hell. When submissions arrive I send them out to my editors. They score a story between 1 and 4 with 1 being, in their opinion, right for MD and publishable. "Ones" stand the most chance of being in the magazine, but it's not guaranteed. If a story does score a 1 it then does the rounds with ALL the editors, but it's still down to me at the end of the day whether a story makes it or not. "Twos" come back to me as well and I'll either reject them immediately, mull on them, or ask for second opinions from the other editors. "Threes" sometimes come back to me but 4s never do, they (and about half the 3s) are rejected by my editors. So it's 85% certain that if you receive a rejection from anyone but me it wasn't a Murky Depths' story (although I also carry out some first readings too if I have the time) and likely received a 3 or 4 from the editors. Doesn't mean it's a crap story, just that it's not right for us.
I'm still working through 2s from as far back as December I'm afraid, whereas some rejections have been turned around in a day. So the old axim that the longer a magazine has a story the more chance there is of it being accepted holds true. A query letter at the wrong moment can flip a decision the wrong way! But I am a writer too, like my editors, so we do our best to turn stories around as quickly as possible, and the likelihood is the better the story the more feedback we'll give (but that isn't always received very well! A shame, as we're only trying to be helpful.).
Hope that was interesting!
Matter of fact it was.
Over on the Rejection forums we've got a long running thread called The Coffee House of Pain. All of us share our current submissions' woes. Obviously, most writers are in the dark on the process, and only feel the sting of rejection. Having that ins, functioning ide view puts a new perspective on the process.
So, functioning as a writer and an editor means you get it at both ends.
Thanks, Luc!
Pike
Over on the Rejection forums we've got a long running thread called The Coffee House of Pain. All of us share our current submissions' woes. Obviously, most writers are in the dark on the process, and only feel the sting of rejection. Having that ins, functioning ide view puts a new perspective on the process.
So, functioning as a writer and an editor means you get it at both ends.
Thanks, Luc!
Pike
Indeed. One rejected writer just responded with "You suck", forgetting that small press publishing can be a tad incestuous (for instance my editors also work on GUD, ASIM and Apex Digest amongst others).
Another submitter, claiming to be a professional writer for over 30 years, demanded that he only receive responses from me and not my editors (and we all know what the latter means now don't we) because his first rejection, which I penned, had been so nice! And he was such a complete prick about it that my editor in question nearly packed it in. She has stopped making helpful comments though, which I think is a real loss to everybody. Arseholes are so up their own, they don't consider the consequences of their actions.
And as a writer you don't want your submission to be the next one read after all that! Cause and affect.
Another submitter, claiming to be a professional writer for over 30 years, demanded that he only receive responses from me and not my editors (and we all know what the latter means now don't we) because his first rejection, which I penned, had been so nice! And he was such a complete prick about it that my editor in question nearly packed it in. She has stopped making helpful comments though, which I think is a real loss to everybody. Arseholes are so up their own, they don't consider the consequences of their actions.
And as a writer you don't want your submission to be the next one read after all that! Cause and affect.
Ouch! That is a shame about one editor halting the helpful comments. Maybe we should send a heaping pile of "thank you" e-mails to the incensitive louse who screwed that up.
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