So now I am truly depressed ...

Status
Not open for further replies.

narnia

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
1,054
Reaction score
139
Location
under my bed
One of my biggest 'issues' with putting pen to paper at this stage in my life (aside from discovering that I have no talent...) is my ** cough ** age.

Yeah, I know, I am not that old but still. :eek: Add to that a recent discovery of ancient texts started in my youth and the why bother what am I thinking it's too late now I wasted so much time why didn't I start earlier mindset starts to rot my brain until I snap out of it.

I have always been a latecomer to things. I think Tom Selleck had filmed his last Magnum episode 5 years ago before I started watching it. I still haven't seen an episode of Friends, I've only had a cell phone for a little while, I just got my first laptop, and I bought my first house two years ago. So I think to myself, hey, the writing gig thing is just another example of my modus operandi, as it were. Plus my grandma used to say everything in life happens the way it is supposed to, so I mostly go my merry way thinking she's right.

Today I read an article in the NYT about a new author. I like to read about new authors, maybe because subconsciously I wonder how much of their journey parallels mine. This article is about Charles Bock, whose first novel 'Beautiful Children' comes out tomorrow (Jan. 28, 2008 in case you are reading this much later! :)). Here's the link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/magazine/27Bock-t.html?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

So what was so depressing? The reviewer writes:
"For a while Bock, who is now 38, a little old to be a first novelist,..."

So if he thinks Bock is a little old, when/if my first novel comes out it will read something like "XXXX, who is now much older than Bock even now and GOK how old she'll be when/if her first novel comes out, is way too old to be a first time novelist and I am amazed that she was able to stay awake for long enough periods to write*, ...."

:cry:

Happy Monday!!!!

:tongue

* my Dad says the older you get the more sleep you need, which is his way of justifying his wont to fall asleep anywhere and everywhere (I love you Dad!!! :heart:)
 

icerose

Lost in School Work
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jun 23, 2005
Messages
11,549
Reaction score
1,647
Location
Middle of Nowhere, Utah
Wasn't there a guy in like his 70's that just recently published his first novel??

It's up to you if you think you can't do it. No other factors but you will change that.

Why not consider yourself the tenacious person who wouldn't let anything get in your way and just got your first book published kind of person despite starting late and won't let anything stop you.
 
Last edited:

TheIT

Infuriatingly Theoretical
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 10, 2005
Messages
6,432
Reaction score
1,343
Location
Silicon Valley
I just turned 40, I'm unpublished, and I'm not dead yet. There's hope.

:D
 

narnia

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
1,054
Reaction score
139
Location
under my bed
Thanks donroc and icerose, and no worries! I am not giving up, I was just using the post as speed bump getter-overer! :D

And I guess upon reflection it's a comment I wouldn't expect to read in a review for the most part, especially since I don't consider 38 'old' .... :Shrug:
 

Cassiopeia

Otherwise Occupied
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
10,881
Reaction score
5,368
Location
Star to the right and straight on till morning.
The best advice was given to me by my uncle. His advice can be found in red in my signature. He was a great man. He was the Editor of the Sturgis, S.D. newspaper for many many years. He wrote and published several articles and books involving the Souix people and because of his efforts there is now a memorial in his honour at the Crazy Horse Museum in Custer State Park, South Dakota.

I will forever remember that his books were published in his later years and he never stopped writing. I can see him now with his coke bottle bottom glasses, graying hair (he had a full head of hair when he died in his 80's), the pipe which was forever filled with cherry tobacco and hung from his lips though he didn't always light it and the quiet amiable way he read the paper and spoke to me about current events.

I mention him because he gave me hope when others wouldn't and though not a famous author by any stretch of the imagination, he was a hero to many including me.

So you take your glory where you find it. Revel in the idea that you've got time. And if you love to write, stop thinking about it and just do it. :D

oh..and read my signature :)
 

waylander

Who's going for a beer?
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 24, 2005
Messages
9,770
Reaction score
2,446
Age
67
Location
London, UK
There's a thread around here somewhere about novelists who were over 60 when their first book got published.
Go and look up the career of Mary Wesley whose career didn't lift off until she was over 70.
Then go and write something
 

Jersey Chick

Up all night to get Loki
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 9, 2007
Messages
12,326
Reaction score
4,292
Location
in the state of carefully controlled chaos
Back when my daughter was born, my husband had a very low-paying job as an assitant greenskeeper. The pay sucked, but I was working so we made ends meet. When the baby came along, it would have used just about all of my salary to pay for daycare and I wanted to stay home with her. Well, we wouldn't be able to...

Then a friend of my FIL told us that his union hall (he is a pipefitter) was taking applicants. It entailed a five year apprenticeship, on the job training, and schooling, but he would come out as a journeyman, making union wages (which are pretty good in NJ), with terrific benefits. And I'd be able to stay home.

My husband hesitated about it and when I asked him why, he said, "Five years is a long time..." So I told him, "Well, that five years will pass no matter what. Where do you want to be?"

He graduated a year ago - :)

Anyway, my long winded moral is that the time will pass no matter what - if you want to keep trying, keep trying - but once it's gone, it's gone and you might regret calling it quits. What do you have to lose?
 

narnia

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
1,054
Reaction score
139
Location
under my bed
Cassiopeia, one of my best friends is 101, and he is a great inspiration in many ways. Chief among them is that he refuses to die until my first book is published. :)

Luckily he is in excellent health!
 

HeronW

Down Under Fan
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 17, 2007
Messages
6,398
Reaction score
1,854
Location
Rishon Lezion, Israel
So, (smacking Narnia on the noggin) if you're interested in writing, and it IS part of most of your life, what better way to spend the time you have, this precious time which no one is ever going to give you any more of--doing what you like less? Yes, being published is the happy crappy pitbull result that A: proves your dog is the best in this fight and B: don't turn your back on it because you're gonna need another meaner dog to stay on top.

I've had a handful of shorts published. I've probably made in total--a dollar for every year of my age by writing: $50. I know I have some good sh*t out there, and I have to work to keep it coming. It's what I love to do so I keep doing it.
 

JLCwrites

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
3,079
Reaction score
5,697
Location
Pacific NW
As long as you are living... you are not too old to write. That was a very minor speed bump. :)
 

narnia

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
1,054
Reaction score
139
Location
under my bed
So, (smacking Narnia on the noggin) if you're interested in writing, and it IS part of most of your life, what better way to spend the time you have, this precious time which no one is ever going to give you any more of--doing what you like less? Yes, being published is the happy crappy pitbull result that A: proves your dog is the best in this fight and B: don't turn your back on it because you're gonna need another meaner dog to stay on top.

I've had a handful of shorts published. I've probably made in total--a dollar for every year of my age by writing: $50. I know I have some good sh*t out there, and I have to work to keep it coming. It's what I love to do so I keep doing it.

Ouch! :D

I won't give up, I promise! ** ducks **

You're so right. If I think it's depressing at my age bemoaning all the years I lost, imagine 20 years from now!!!

Besides, I finally picked out a cool pen name so I can't let it go to waste! ;)
 

Susan Breen

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Apr 13, 2007
Messages
846
Reaction score
199
Location
New York
Writer's Digest used to have this recurring article that I loved in which they would have blurbs about new authors and tell their ages. They still do it, but I notice they don't tell the ages anymore, but the debut authors almost always used to be in their 40s and 50s. There is no way in this world that 38 is old, unless you ice skate. Don't worry.
 

Rolling Thunder

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 12, 2006
Messages
15,209
Reaction score
5,342
So what was so depressing? The reviewer writes:
"For a while Bock, who is now 38, a little old to be a first novelist,..."

I'm 46 and only started to write seriously in 2006. Whether this means I have a better, or lesser, chance than others is irrelevant though.


Write a good story that people will want to read and age will mean little.
 

Cassiopeia

Otherwise Occupied
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
10,881
Reaction score
5,368
Location
Star to the right and straight on till morning.
Ouch! :D

I won't give up, I promise! ** ducks **

You're so right. If I think it's depressing at my age bemoaning all the years I lost, imagine 20 years from now!!!

Besides, I finally picked out a cool pen name so I can't let it go to waste! ;)

I want you to consider this, if you write the number of words on the left every day of the year for a year, the total is your total words for the year.

50=18,250
100=36,500
200=73,000
300=109,500
400=146,000
500=182,500

Now by my reckoning, even at 50 words a day you have a novella. At 500 you have an epic. So pick a goal and stick to it. Don't try to write the entire novel in a week. Just take it a day at a time with the word count you are aiming for. If you get stuck on one project, start another and work back and forth as inspiration hits you or journal your thoughts when you get stuck in life so you can clear you mind to write.

I hope that helps :)

Now smile. *waits*

That's it...

Come on...

Just a little bigger.

What's that I hear? NO! You didn't just giggle did you? ;)
 

ModoReese

Bang head here for service
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 2, 2006
Messages
187
Reaction score
10
Location
North of there and South of here...
I recently read the Wikipedia entry on Gloria Stuart (best known for playing "old Rose" in Titanic.

This amazing woman acted for a few years, then left to start designing furniture, and was very successful at it. She also became recognized for oil painting.

After a 30 year break from acting, she returned to it with some success, then at *74* learned how to operate a hand press and became well known for her printed books, with many in notable museums.

She was in her 80s when she filmed the Titanic role she is so well known for.

Check it out here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Stuart

This has inspired me beyond words.
 

Soccer Mom

Crypto-fascist
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 5, 2006
Messages
18,604
Reaction score
8,039
Location
Under your couch
It's never too late. You are still going to be <insert age> next year, regardless of whether you publish a novel or not. Might as well be a novelist.

Now snap out of it Narnia! Here's a kitteh to help!


299001391_38079f5104_o.jpg
 

DWSTXS

Mr Mojo Risin...
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 13, 2008
Messages
2,504
Reaction score
647
Location
Carrollton, TX
Website
www.pbase.com
When I was 20....(I'm now 47) and I was talking with an older gentleman and I mentioned that I wanted to write, he gave me some good advice:

You have to live before you can write.......go out and live a good portion of your life, and by the time you do get around to writing, you'll have some good life experience....put that into your writing.
 

wyntermoon

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 6, 2006
Messages
4,633
Reaction score
2,237
Website
threeseasagency.com
Och, girl. Frank McCourt was 66 when Angela's Ashes debuted. He received the Pulitzer the year after (1997). We have loads of time to fuddle about!
 

Novelhistorian

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 12, 2006
Messages
365
Reaction score
47
Location
Seattle
Anybody remember a book called And the Ladies of the Club? It was a first novel, written by a woman named Helen Hooven Santmeyer. She was in her eighties, I think. The book became a bestseller.

I don't remember when this happened, but I'm willing to bet it's at least fifteen years ago, if not twenty. Which means that Ms. Santmeyer would be more than a century if she were alive. She's not, but I'll bet the publication of her book put a spring in her step.
 

Thomma Lyn

Cat Wrangler
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
499
Reaction score
120
Location
East TN
Website
www.thommalyngrindstaff.com
38 is old? :Wha:

News to me, too! :)

Age is irrelevant to writing. Well... except for age-related perks like wisdom, experience, practice. And those things, to my mind, enrich -- not detract from -- a person's ability to craft good stories.
 
Last edited:

Stew21

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
27,651
Reaction score
9,137
Location
lost in headspace
Since I was a kid I wanted to be a writer. Then when I got into college I majored in something a bit more "practical" I got on with the business of life. I always wrote, always told myself I'd write a novel - but didn't.

about 5 years ago I decided to go ahead and try.

I'm working on my third. I am unpublished. I hadn't even tried until the most recent ms was completed. I'll query it for as long as I can, keep writing and then start querying wip#3. :shrug:

I might never be published, I'm 37, I'll still write, I'll still try. There isn't an age limit.
I wish I would have started paying attention to it sooner than I did, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm doing it now.

Trish - not done trying yet.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.