authors the likes of David Icke, Jim Marrs, William Cooper, Jordan Maxwell, etc.
Illuminati/New World Order Conspiracy books
Illuminati/New World Order Conspiracy books
who's the best literary agent for conspiracy books?
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I think the publishers of that particular genre are open to unagented submissions.
Also, the first step is developing a platform--Web site, appearances at conferences, guest slots on "Coast to Coast AM", etc.
Also, the first step is developing a platform--Web site, appearances at conferences, guest slots on "Coast to Coast AM", etc.
Those books are all theoretical in nature. They have competing books that take a totally different view, hence, they can't be classified as nonfiction. By the same token, they wouldn't be classified as standard fiction. And I've seen some of those books. They're not very well written and I seriously doubt that any of them have been professionally edited.
I'd hate for my book to be "professionally edited." I'm hoping to find an agent who'll leave my work the hell alone. My editing is sufficient.
who are the publishers of that particular genre? i might just go straight to them, if that's the case.
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You do realise aside from agents having suggestions on edits, that when you land a publisher you will have many rounds of edits to go through before your book is out on the shelves right? And that the editing process isn't about "correcting" your work, or ruining it, but working with you to make it totally awesome? You are setting yourself up for a fall if you will only work with people who won't edit your stuff. Or setting yourself as a perfect candidate for Publish America.
how can i avoid the editor predator?
i want nothing to do with them. i love my book as is and don't want somebody addicted to "helping" messing up my art.
i'm an artist and an adamant editor is the last thing i want to have to deal with.
it sounds like another profession where people force themselves on you "for your own good."
is there any way to avoid this type of extortion and still get my book out to the public at large?
what's wrong with Publish America? do they leave your work alone?
i'm not familiar with this business at all. all i know is my book is perfect as is
i'm not familiar with this business at all. all i know is my book is perfect as is
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Avoid PublishAmerica like a plague. I'm a newbie in this whole business, and I've heard and seen enough groans and shudders at its mention. Be afraid. Be very afraid. 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PublishAmerica
Should be a starter on what's wrong with them.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PublishAmerica
Should be a starter on what's wrong with them.
wow. they're bad enough to have a wiki entry. now that's funny!
well, i'm pretty sure i'll avoid them then.
well, i'm pretty sure i'll avoid them then.
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I'd say, self-publishing.
I've never had an editor that did anything but improve my work.
Most authors are too damn close to their own work to see stuff. We fill in the blanks in the story that will confuse others because "we know what's going on."
I can't think of any major or small publisher who will print a book as is.
About the only circumstance is if you've published successfully, finish your next meisterwerk, and step in front of a Humvee before it's edited.
Once Anne Rice became a poobah, she had hissy fits about editors touching her pot of gold. She would only allow them to publish as is. And her work got more and more bloated with literary flotsam and jetsam as a result. I sold a novel for the first time this year, and went through two heavy duty edits. The novel is much improved as a result.
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Look in bookstores for books similar to yours. Then submit your book to those publishers.
TrineDay publishes a lot of conspiracy-theory books, as does Progressive Press and Loompanics.
I'd say, self-publishing.
I've never had an editor that did anything but improve my work.
Most authors are too damn close to their own work to see stuff. We fill in the blanks in the story that will confuse others because "we know what's going on."
I can't think of any major or small publisher who will print a book as is.
i'm tempted to self-publish, but i'm sick and tired of the work it'd entail. i wrote a book. (it was hard.) i just want my money. i'm sick and tired of working. i need a break and i need my money. i actually couldn't even afford to self-publish if i wanted to at this point.
Actually, my book is unlike any book that has ever been written. And less and less do i see books remotely close to mine in the bookstores. i'll check those links out: they look like they might be exactly what i need! thank you!
i'm not 100% anti-editor, but i know people who get a salary often want to do something to earn it and i don't want people trying to earn their salary by f-ing up my work of art.
if i get to oversee the editing i may allow some, but i hope i don't end up in a situation where an editor has license to mess with my book without my permission
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^^
is self-publishing free? is it hassle free? i'm an author, not a business man. if i self-publish, i gotta do all the transaction work myself right? who needs the headaches? that's why there's publishing houses and literary agents, no?
is self-publishing free? is it hassle free? i'm an author, not a business man. if i self-publish, i gotta do all the transaction work myself right? who needs the headaches? that's why there's publishing houses and literary agents, no?
My understanding is it's not so much your agent who will edit your book (though he/she may well give some suggestions), but rather an editor(s) at the publisher will do so, and the publisher (who pays the editor to make these decisions) makes the final decision of what they publish or not.
As others say, to have total control of your writing, basically your only alternative is self-publishing. From my reading on here on AW (and a little elsewhere), the self-publisher with perhaps the best reputation is Lulu.
But with self-publishing you miss out on much of the marketing and getting-the-book-in-bookstores power that publishers have and already know how to do. In order to get any sales at all with self-publishing, you really DO have to develop a platform and get your name out there by being on "Coast to Coast" and any other radio or TV show that would have you and such. I just looked up a few of David Icke's books on Amazon, and they're published by "David Icke Books," so he's self-published and surely didn't have an agent. Even so, he might still have had an editor.
You sound dead set against having your manuscript edited, but still, you may want to read a few of the threads in "Share Your Work" to get a feel for how feedback and editing by someone other than the author can improve a piece of writing that might look "fine" at first read. Of course, you may disagree with many of the responses and suggested changes to the originals, but that's also part of it, different people have different opinions.
You may want to read around these forums some more. There's a forum named "Bewares and Background Check" where questions about specific agents and publisers are asked and answered. Within that forum is A WHOLE SUBFORUM on PublishAmerica, with many more juicy details and stories than in the Wikipedia article. And one small detail: fwhat I've read of PublishAmerica, they indeed do some minor editing, mostly along the lines of adding typos.
And probably the vast majority of publishers, good and bad, have Wikipedia entries thesedays. That site is huge.
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No it's not free.
It was more the expression, ". . . i just want my money."
Oh, if it was only so easy. I've been published four times, so far, and they were all media tie-in works, so I had contacts before I ever wrote the first word and never did the money just appear.
Partial advances up front, rest due on delivery, occasionally having to browbeat the publisher for my money, royalties held against returns, etc. This is not a business that moves quickly and payment moves even slower on occasion.
Other people may have other experiences but very damn few people get rich writing. I'll probably make more in my life as a tech writer than I ever do as a novelist. *shrugs* I'm cool with that - it's just how it works.
well, i'm in it for the money. i hate writing.
if i was self-published i'd be more likely to get rich right? cuz i'd get all the profits
but the only twist is i'd have to hustle more to make my book known.
how much does it cost to self publish? i've surely got 200 sales in me, easy. that's just people i know. how much would it cost to self-publish a book that's about 470 8x10 pages
if i was self-published i'd be more likely to get rich right? cuz i'd get all the profits
but the only twist is i'd have to hustle more to make my book known.
how much does it cost to self publish? i've surely got 200 sales in me, easy. that's just people i know. how much would it cost to self-publish a book that's about 470 8x10 pages
I can't believe that a few people got all over my case for asking some simple questions, but they apparently have no problem with your statements in this thread.
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