More showdowns and more casualties (WGA strike)

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CBS and Paramount just followed ABC's lead and cancelled all of their contracts for TV and movie commitments and development deals.

My favorite show of this season, Pushing Daisies, have been canceled... :(

A lot of people, including writers, are going to be out of the job.

Look forward to more cancelations of your favorite shows.
 

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no! and Pushing Daisies wasn't even premiered here yet! and goodbye The Big Bang Theory... just when I tought good TV Shows were finally going out
 

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That sucks. Any chance that after this is over they'll try again with those shows?
 

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Ray, I'm curious what your source is for the quoted material. I'm having a heck of a time finding anything on this.

I did find some news on the TVGuide.com blogs:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Wga-Strike-Watch/800059822

Apparently even George Clooney couldn't save some of TV's big talents from the studio ax. More than two dozen writers and non-writing producers have been cut from the ABC Studios roster, thanks to a force majeure clause (translation: they can fire anyone at any time under circumstances beyond their control -- aka the WGA strike) that the network exercised Friday, according to Variety. Every studio has suspended their writers because of the strike, but ABC's decision is the most significant to date, because it's the first network to sever ties completely from any of its talent.

Variety reports that nearly all of the axed deals were those of producers and writers who were not currently working on "major" series. While some insiders are braced for similar cuts at other studios, others suggest that ABC's broad scope in their decision shows that the move was not only in response to the strike, but also an attempt to whittle down their roster in the long-run.
 

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Are you sure it just wasn't put on hold till the strike's over? I thought Daisies was doing well in the ratings?
 

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My friend, who is a sound man in Hollywood (he was working on The Shield before the strike), told me with certainty that ABC has canceled their contracts (apparently now CBS is doing the same). Also, he said he was sure that Pushing Daisies has been canceled because of a) the strike and b) it's one of the most expensive shows to produce (because of the high production value) and they just couldn't hold the production forever.

Yes, it really sucks. It's one of the few shows I really look forward to watching.
 
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It's supposed to be Scrubs's last season, too... will we ever find out what happen to all the characters?
 

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The last episode aired in the UK was the last one of series 6. No idea if anyone will show the few episodes of series 7 I gather have been made.
 

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Semi-good news for you, Ray, at http://www.tvguide.com/Ask-Ausiello

And a quote from Pushing Daisies creator Ryan Fuller:

" Even if the strike ends in the next week or two, it looks like they will scuttle the rest of the season. This is for many reasons. One is that it will be hard to launch a big promotional campaign for four or five episodes; it's just not cost-effective. Two is that if we did come back we would land right in the path of the American Idol juggernaut, and would likely be decimated. Three is if we came back in the fall with a full slate of episodes, then ABC could relaunch the show in a big way. The tentative plan now is to start the writers immediately [after the strike is resolved] so we can get some scripts stockpiled, and then hit production in June. But that's all tentative. We've talked about so many options since the strike began and they fluctuate on a weekly basis. But right now a short first season seems the most likely."

It's not in Cancelledville, just resting in Limboland, like most of network TV. :)
 

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I sure hope so. They did talk about just canceling it because it was so expensive to produce. But I'm glad they see the potential (it's one of the best new shows this season) that hopefully they will stick with it...
 

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I'm just glad they stocked up enough HOUSE to last a little while. Anyone know how much longer those episodes will last?
 

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Us scriptwriters sure are a bunch of jerks now aren't we.
Why? Because you actually want to get paid for your work? You buncha barbarians! Maybe now Hollywood is beginning to realize that they can't toss a few peanuts at the writers. Good writing is the foundation of any show.
 

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Why? Because you actually want to get paid for your work? You buncha barbarians! Maybe now Hollywood is beginning to realize that they can't toss a few peanuts at the writers. Good writing is the foundation of any show.


I was just joking! :D I was PRETTY sure you guys weren't hating the writers (most of you are writers yourselves). But I couldn't resist the dry comment. ;)
 

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No, I'm just irritated that they won't go on and give in to the writers. We all know they're going to--wish they'd just do it!
 

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Well, if the networks' plan for breaking the strike is turning the public against the writers, I think it's working. At least, when people ask me what I do I've stopped saying I'm a writer and started saying I'm a 'novelist', because people kept asking me if I was on strike. :eyeroll: No, there is no such thing as a novel writer's strike, and even if there were I wouldn't be part of it because I'm not published. But back when I was saying 'writer' a lot of people would start complaining about the 'stupid TV writers' after I corrected them as to what it was I wrote. It got worse after the Golden Globes were canceled too.

I don't personally care, and wouldn't probably have even noticed there was a strike up until the Golden Globes, had I not read about it on AW. The last of the really good TV shows went off the air in 2004 in my opinion, so I could care less what's not on because of the strike now. Even though I'm a writer, I can't honestly say I have a lot of sympathy for the WGA strike myself. Whether they were getting paid fairly or not, TV and movie script writers were being paid SOMETHING, which is more than a great many talented novelists, poets, and short story writers make. Poets and short story writers in particular very rarely make a good living off their writing, even if they're well-published. Unless they're bestsellers, most novelists don't make anywhere near what I would consider 'fair' compensation for the amount of work that goes into a novel either. Most of us write because we love it, not because we expect 'fair pay' for it like we would some job we just tolerated for the paycheck.

Anyway, if all the TV shows go off the air, maybe people will read more books. That would work out well for us novelists. (OK, so we all know the general public will watch reruns and DVDs instead, but hey, I can hope.)
 

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Even though I'm a writer, I can't honestly say I have a lot of sympathy for the WGA strike myself. Whether they were getting paid fairly or not, TV and movie script writers were being paid SOMETHING, which is more than a great many talented novelists, poets, and short story writers make. Poets and short story writers in particular very rarely make a good living off their writing, even if they're well-published.

Please let me put up a defense of the WGA's position.



And everything I have written below is my understanding from what has been explained to me by seasoned screenwriters. I welcome any correction to my facts and my interpretations, as I only want the truth here.


::ETA:: (Sunday Night Feb 3, 2008) I got a PM today from a resident screenwriter here at AW. He said I got some of the below WRONG. Sorry. I will elaborate in another post further down this thread.




When a novelist publishes a novel (a tough trick, I do realize), he keeps the copyright and the control of the novel, and he gets royalties for every sale made. Sometimes a pulisher will ask for SOME changes to the novel before publication, and the number of voices the novelist has to deal with in that editing process is maybe one or two at the most, but he still retains creative control, and is given a general measure of respect as an "artist."

Meanwhile, screenwriters and TV writers are NOT in the same boat at all.

When a screenwriter sells a screenplay (also a tough trick), he renounces his copyright, he renounces creative control, and he does not get any royalties. Instead he starts off with a special deal (this deal happens BEFORE the actual sale, BTW) called an "option" where the studio agrees to merely persue the screenplay, but nothing is a done deal yet. The amount of money the writer gets for the option can be as little as a dollar (perfectly legal and very very common) and at that point the writer is no longer an "artist" or even a "craftsman." Instead he get re-assigned as a "laborer" (this is all part of the current legal wording in the film industry) and he is obligated to do EVERYTHING that his "employer" (that's the studio) tells him as far as how they want this screenplay to be re-done.

Now the number of voices this writer has to answer to can range anywhere from two people to three dozen--sometimes more. And half (sometimes well more than half) of them don't know ANYTHING about the craft of story. The number of rewrites they can squeeze out of him are endless. Sometimes these rewrites result in a total obliteration of the original screenplay. And if he even once balks at any of this, they can accuse him of being "uncooperative" and can exercise any number of clauses in the option contract and TAKE HIS SCRIPT AWAY FROM HIM and give it to another writer.

And after getting "fired", does he get paid???? Not yet! Nope! Not a dime. That's because the screenplay isn't up to their satisfaction yet--it's still only in the "option" phase NOT yet in the realm of "bought and paid for." So if they bring in ANOTHER writer, and that other writer does everything they tell him (like a good little doggie), and THEN they decide they want to actually BUY the screenplay (and this could be many months, sometimes a year or more later) the original writer now must split the sale of the screenplay with this new guy they brought in. Yep! Split it with him! How much??? Sometimes 50/50. Sometimes 70/30. It could be anything, really, and sometimes it needs to go into arbitration. So then an arbitration judge has to actually read every last draft of the script from start to finish, and then the judge needs to decide how much of the FINAL script (the version that the studio is actually willing to purchase) originated with the first writer, and how much was the handiwork of the second writer, and then that judge's ruling is final. And the really crummy thing about all of this already crummy situation is that sometimes the second writer will deliberately eclipse some of the cooler parts of the first writer's original contributions just to be able to tip that 50/50 split off more toward 60/40 and 70/30 and 80/20, just because he wants that money --artistry be damned! --respect for fellow writers be damned! Icing on the cake: if the original writer is the one who raised such a stink that an arbitration judge actually had to be brought in, that writer gets blacklisted as a "trouble maker" and will probably never get hired by any studio ever again.

Now after forcing the sale to be split between two people, it would be all nicey-nice of the studio to maybe DOUBLE the price they were originally willing to pay for the screenplay, that way when it gets divided between the two writers, those two scribes could then each get a bigger net cut. But no -- no such nicey-nice at all. And if the original writer is lucky, it will ONLY be ONE additional writer he has to split the sale with. Two or three additional writers is NOT unheard of, and the pricetag on the screenplay does NOT go up. (If an additional producer comes on the scene, then yes, the price goes up, but not if an additional writer is called in.) And then, after the studio hands over this split pay between the two writers, the studio goes on to make a movie.

If the resulting movie is a success, two things often happen. First, the public showers all their adoration on the actors and SOMETIMES on the director. But almost never does any member of the general public ever even learn the screenwriter's name. JK Rowling's name is pretty famous, but have you ever heard of Julian Fellowes? How about Melissa Matheson? Christopher McQuarrie? Alan Ball? No??? Too bad. But the mis-directed fame part is only the FIRST thing that happens when a film is a success. The SECOND thing that happens is the studios take that succesful film into the "aftermarket." The aftermarket is cable TV, video sales, DVD's, and (soon) the internet. And studios stand to make a HUGE bundle on the aftermarket, often the equivalent of --if not full blown double or even triple-- what the original box office got them.

Writers want a piece of that aftermarket.

If a movie is a flop, the writer "responsible" for that flop will get close to nothing. But if it's a hit, the writer deserves a piece of it.

How much is a fair piece?

As far as the box office goes, writers are still being pretty hands-off. But as for the after-market ... writers currently get 4 cents per DVD sold (not called a "royalty," instead the correct term is "residual"). And they get NOTHING for an internet download. Writers want to DOUBLE that 4 cent residual to an eight cent residual (not at all an unreasonable demand when you consider the original reason why the WGA even SETTLED for a measly four cents twenty years ago--that's another post entirely), and they also want similar compensation for each and every internet download. The studios are saying "No way!" to any increase at all on that four cents per DVD, and they are further insisting that writers should get absolutely nothing for the internet and should remain content with just the four cents per DVD --even though every last media business expert is predicting that in less than five years, ALL AFTERMARKET WILL BE RELEGATED EXCLUSIVELY TO THE INTERNET, AND DVD'S WILL NO LONGER EVEN EXIST! No more DVD's will mean no more residuals ......... ever again.

The WGA "settled" for that crummy, crappy, paltry and insulting four cents per DVD twenty years ago. And it was a HUGE mistake. The studios really pulled the wool over ther writers eyes twenty years ago when they cried and pleaded for the writers to be nice and to be reasonable and to cut the poor helpless vulnerable studios a break and to JUST take four cents per DVD "just temporarily" until the studios could see if that whole new and experimental technology called DVD's was even going to prove profitable. So this time around, still bitter about being duped into that lousy four cents, the WGA is not willing to budge at all. They WANT those internet residuals, and will remain on strike for a year or longer if they have to to get them. "Be nice. Be reasonable." No. Not this time. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

At this point I am going to PM a few of the pro screenwriters here at AW and ask them to come in here and check my math and check my history (and maybe even check my spelling) and make sure I got it all straight.
 
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I have been told that some of the truck caterers who service the film and TV companies and shows have had to close shop.

And for those of us who have had novels recently published, we can only speculate how much more difficult to impossible it will be to sell them to film and TV.
 

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Resident AW forum member, Neal Marshall Stevens sent me a PM to tell me I got some of the above post wrong.

So here are my apologies, and his response:


Okay, PD, there are, I'm afraid, a number of mistakes.

If you don't mind, I'll try to respond, in general, both to the
original poster, and to your response to her.

Her complaint, I'm afraid, is one that I hear a lot, in reference to a
whole bunch of different things -- why do (fill in the blank -- rock
stars, movie stars, sports stars, whatever) get paid so much while (fill
in the blank again -- nurses, cops, teachers, poets?) can hardly earn a
living.

The original poster, I'm afraid, has made a common mistake, which is to
conflate *importance* with *value.*

Obviously, nurses are more important to our society than, say, rock
stars. No nurses, we'd be in big trouble. No rock stars -- eh.

So why shouldn't we pay nurses more than rock stars?

Because what we pay people isn't based on how *important* they are. Pay
is a function of market forces, not importance. And that is a measure
of value. Value is a measure of supply and demand. How available are
the skill sets that allow people to become nurses and what is the demand
for nurses. That's what determines the going pay rate for nurses.

That's why Doctors get paid more than nurses.

That's why top-rated screenwriters and directors -- admittedly
significantly less *important* occupations than either doctor or nurse, get
paid significantly more than both.

I graduated from NYU Grad Film School which, at the time I graduated,
had a graduating class of around thirty students. Pretty much all of
them wanted to go on to become feature directors.

Now, at that time, if you graduated from medical school, presuming you
wanted to be a doctor, there was a very good chance that, ten years
from graduation, you would be working as a doctor -- you'd be doing what
you studied to do.

You know what the success rate was, graduating from NYU -- one of the
top two or three film school in the country?

Less than one student per class. That is, out of three graduating
classes, maybe you'd have two students who went on to be professional full
time directors of feature films.

Screenwriting is slightly less competitive -- but only slightly less.

And when you think about it, it makes sense.

Look at how many features are released in this country in a year --
even including indie features.

Maybe three hundred -- three hundred and fifty.

How many people want to be one of those directors -- not simply a
director directing a feature that ends up going direct to video, or ends up
unrelreased (of which there are hundreds more) but of directing one of
those features that actually gets a theatrical release?

And how many would-be feature directors -- recent graduates of film
school, commercial directors, directors of music videos, people directing
their own stuff in their back yards, or raising their own money and
shooting their own features, are clambering to be one of that elite group?


Tens of thousands?

Hundreds of thousands?

Meanwhile, Scorsese is making his next feature, and Spielberg is making
his, and ever major director is making his -- and the kid who just
graduated from NYU is not only competing against them, but against every
other kid in his graduating class, and in every other graduating class
from every other film school, and against every kid who's already
graduated and is already out there working.

Ditto with screenwriters.

That's what's known as -- a highly competitive market.

You write a poem, what is at stake financially? Someone might publish
it in the New Yorker, or in a small literary magazine, or they might
publish a book of your poems, if you are sufficiently well-known. But even
very successful poets aren't all that terribly "successful" in that
business sense -- in the sense that there is a huge market demand for
their material.

There is, even for the most popular living poet in the world, at best,
only a tiny demand, in a financial sense.

So why in the world could there ever be more than a tiny financial
return for even the most popular living poet?

On the other hand, Hollywood movies, which these days cost, at the low
end anywhere from ten up to a hundred and fifty million dollars, are
looking for writers who are capable of delivering work that can attract
audiences that justify that kind of expenditure. Hundreds of millions of
dollars are at stake based on their ability to deliver work of
suitable quality (and again, we're not talking quality in a critical sense,
but quality in the sense of -- will the movie that comes out the other
end succeed or fail).

If I can write a movie for a million dollars that goes on to earn half
a billion -- it seems to me that I've more than earned my million.

If someone else thinks it's easy -- give it a try. And while you're at
it, the Super Bowl is coming up tomorrow. Trot on out to the field and
see how you do out there. It's easy to win games and call this or that
player a bum sitting at home in your chair. Not so easy when you're
actually playing out on the field.

Regarding the distinction between writers of fiction and screenwriters,
you almost have it right but not quite.

Novelists, poets, playwrights retain copyright. When their work is
published or performed, they are licensing their material for limited use
in certain markets for a set period of time. They retain the underlying
rights, unless they specifically sell them (which of course, they can
do -- an author can, for instance, sell the movie rights to his book,
retaining all other rights).

It is a different state of affairs for other kinds of writers. Not only
for movie writers, but also for game writers and certain other
writers.

We perform what is known as "work for hire." We do not own what we
write. The author, for legal purposes, and thus the copyright holder, is
the studio or the producer who has either hired us to write the
screenplay or, in the case of an original screenplay that we may write and sell,
it is whoever has bought the screenplay.

That may sound a bit backward, but that's the way it works. I can come
up with something totally original to me, write it, sell it to someone
else -- and then *they* become the author, legally.

They own all rights, in perpetuity, in all media currently in existence
or yet to be invented, throughout the universe. That sounds like a
funny phrase, but that's how it is, in fact, phrased in the contract.

So yes. We get a lot (or at least in principle, we can get a lot) --
but we also give up a lot. Everything, in fact.

However, there is one advantage to our work being considered "work for
hire" which owning your own copyright denies you.

It means that you are, from the perspective of the Board of Labor,
considered to be an employee. That means that we had the right to organize.
And we did. We formed the Writers Guild of America.

This was back in the thirties and the Guild did things like set minimum
pay scales for low and high budget features (and these aren't exactly
budget busting -- for a high budget feature -- anything over 5 million
dollars, the minimum is $77,000), allows us to retain certain other
rights -- not by way of copyright, but through *contract* with the guild
and - and this is an important correction -- the Guild took control of
credit arbitration.

That is, producers have the right to replace the writer. That can do
that if they choose. In fact they can have as many writers as they want
on a project.

What they can't do is decide who gets credit. When the movie gets close
to being released, they generate a "tentative credit notification"
document which they have to send to every writer who was involved in the
project -- saying how they'd like the credits to read.

If anyone objects, it then goes to the *guild* to be arbitrated. Then
all the relevant drafts will be sent over, presumably without anyone's
name attached, and the various parties can attach statements making
their case -- and the guild decides who gets final credit and how it will
read.

Obviously, however these decisions turn out, someone is going to be
happy and someone isn't. But the point is, we are no longer at the mercy
of producers or directors to decide who gets credit (say, maybe --
*they* do, for our work).

As for the strike -- in general terms, the issue comes down to this. In
the past, much of the money that we've been paid for television
episodes, what we call "residuals" -- are really deferred payments. The
argument has always run -- look guys, we make these things at a loss up
front. We don't really make any money until they go into repeats. So we say
-- fine. Pay us X amount up front and we'll take the rest as "residual
payment." So we get a certain amount up front, and then less for the
first repeat, then less for the next, less for the next, less for the
next.

And the idea is, since we agreed to this deferred business, rather than
getting paid up front -- we're always going to get something, so long
as these things get aired -- we'll always get a few pennies. We'll
always get a share -- although the majority of it comes from the first
dozen or so airings.

And when the VHS market came along our feeling was -- it's the same
kind of thing -- it's like repeating the show, only in a more tangible
form. But, they said -- hey, it's a new market, we don't know whether it
fly or not. So we substantially reduced the percentage, on the basis
that, as the numbers became clearer, we'd renegotiate.

Well, the numbers became clearer, as that market became the dominant
source of income for the industry. But the numbers never changed.

Now, as we're shifting in the direction of the internet, we find
ourselves facing a real sea change. Because, for instance, LOST has foregone
traditional reruns in favor of straight-to-internet airings. What would
have earned a writer of Lost $20,000 in residual payments -- not extra
money, but money that was really deferred, is now going to be a mere
fraction of that based on any formula that the producers are now
advancing.

And what happens five years from now, or ten years from now when,
potentially, every show is rerun in this way -- when traditional re-runs
simply cease to exist?

And when traditional DVDs, when that whole market has given way to
streaming video, for which we currently are being offered next to nothing?

I know that there is probably a whole world full of people who are
saying -- so what? They already are earning enough. They already are
earning more that I do, writing my poetry part time.

I'm not trying to knock anyone else. I've been very fortunate in recent
years -- but you also have to realize that there have been many years
when I've starved. I've had years when I've earned six figures, five
figures -- and four figures from my writing (back when I was working in
TV).

There have been years when I and my wife have lived in our one bedroom
apartment with our two kids and our two offices and I've cranked out
scripts and lived half off an option check and some residual payments and
our credit cards.

The nature of this business is cyclical. You can sell a script for a
quarter of a million bucks -- and not work again for three years. And
having residuals and having royalties (and for DVD income, by the way,
they are called royalties -- I'm not exactly sure why the distinction is
made) can make the difference, for many of us, between financial
survival or destruction during those fallow periods.

I recently had a discussion with a friend of ours on this subject and
the question drifted to the Baseball Players strike of several years
ago, and she had said that she was annoyed about it -- that she felt that
the players didn't need to strike, that they "earned enough."

And I had asked her -- did she think that the team owners, who
certainly earned far more, not only than any individual player, but far more
than all of the team players put together, "earned enough."

And she said that she hadn't really thought about it.

And that's the point. What the players earn get it the papers. What
Steinbrenner earns -- and what the "corporation" earns -- doesn't.

Again, people seem ready enough to say that we are "earning enough" --
but don't seem disposed to ask whether or not the heads of massive
corporations who, while they are awarding themselves multi-million dollar
deals that far exceed what the guild *as a whole* is taking in, are
stonewalling us and trying to get us to take a deal that will -- five or
ten years from now, put us in a situation where a substantial portion of
our income has been cut away -- that just maybe *they* are not only
earning enough, but have, for a good many years, been earning too much.

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