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AppleTree76
01-12-2008, 06:21 AM
Where should "and" go?:

His fat, pocked and ugly face.

His fat and ugly, pocked face.

The second one sounds better doesn't it, or not?

Duncan J Macdonald
01-12-2008, 08:12 AM
Where should "and" go?:

His fat, pocked and ugly face.

His fat and ugly, pocked face.

The second one sounds better doesn't it, or not?
No, not to my ear. Have the conjunction between the first two modifiers sounds wrong.

Try "His fat, pocked, and ugly face."

Viva la Serial Comma!!

FennelGiraffe
01-12-2008, 08:27 AM
Whenever I'm tempted to burden a noun with three adjectives, I lie down until the feeling goes away.

OK. In terms of grammar, I would go with either of these: His fat, pocked, ugly face
His fat face, pocked and ugly,

girlyswot
01-12-2008, 08:28 AM
The second sentence is an unusual construction. It could work, I think, but you'd have to think carefully about how it skews the emphasis. Do you mean 'fat and ugly' to be a single sense-unit, almost synonymous? I'd guess not. Probably you want 'pocked and ugly' to go more closely together, or all three to have equal value. In which case you need either an unmarked construction: His fat, ugly and pocked face (I'm English so I wouldn't add a serial comma after ugly, but you could if you wanted to); or a construction that links ugly and pocked, like: His fat face, pocked and ugly (nicked from FennelGiraffe, because I liked that suggestion).

IceCreamEmpress
01-12-2008, 08:52 PM
I would have said

His ugly face, fat and pocked since I assume the fatness and pocked-ness are what make the face ugly in this characterization.