I feel cheated

[ALLWritety]

Got Die Hard 4 - Aren't you dead yet.
out on DVD. I was looking forward to the movie and i was not disappointed there. Pure unbelievable action, great! Just my cup of tea or coffee (should i say!)

However my :rant: is this:

On the trailer they play this music which i loved this version. (BTW can anyone confirm what the trailer music is?)
Comes to the flim DID I hear it? NO! Not even once. Hello WHAT'S THE GAME HERE BOYS???
I was sad i can tell you.

Kevvers

[OddButInteresting]

Nine Inch Nails' 'Just Like You Imagined' wasn't to be heard in 300 either, despite it being in the trailer. Took me a little while to discover what the track was, actually.

Y'know what I really hate? Recycled music in trailers. 'Lacrimosa,' Clint Mansell's original Requiem For A Dream theme, and recently the music from the first full-length Spider-Man 3 trailer in the recent Golden Compass trailer.

It ruins a trailer's individuality for me. Rather than advertising the film as a piece of entertainment or art, it sells it as a packaged "product." Sure, it's just a trailer, and a commercial film is essentially a product, but I demand a complete and self-contained product. Not just a mish-mash cut-and-paste collage of stock media.

I hate that "I've heard this before..." feeling, especially when I can't work out where I have heard it before.

[nessam]

I watched it last night and loved it. Did anyone else think it was funny that the Mac guy was a computer hacker?

And I'm sorry but no chick can beat up on my main man that way.

[clockwork]

On the trailer they play this music which i loved this version. (BTW can anyone confirm what the trailer music is?)
Comes to the flim DID I hear it? NO! Not even once. Hello WHAT'S THE GAME HERE BOYS???
I was sad i can tell you.

Kevvers

Yeah, they've been doing that since the dawn of trailers. The problem is that trailers are almost always released before the film's score has been completed, necessitating the need for temp tracks of music borrowed from other scores or songs that suit the mood.

soundtrack.net (http://www.soundtrack.net/) is a fantastic resource for identifying score music in trailers and a superb database of film scores.

The 'resources' section and then 'trailer music' section tells us the following about Die Hard 4's trailer music--

http://www.soundtrack.net/img/trailer/1.gifTHEATRICAL TRAILER
"Goth (Remix)" - 615 Music / Craig Sharmat
"Cycler" - RipTide Music (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1117)
"War Zone" - audiomachine (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1519)
"Rankle" - X-Ray Dog (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1046)
"Adrenaline Surge" - Future World Music (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1027)
"Suicide Mission" - Wild Whirled
"Ode to Joy" - Sorman Nystrom
"Full Throttle Part #2" - Static
"Hits, Swooshes and Rises" - Distortion Music
"Sensory Deprivation" - audiomachine (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1519)
"Natural Born Killers" - audiomachine (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1519)
http://www.soundtrack.net/img/trailer/2.gifTEASER TRAILER
"Clash of Empires" - Groove Addicts (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1518)
"Ramped Booming" - boomerang! (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1181)
"Voices Down" - boomerang! (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1181)
http://www.soundtrack.net/img/trailer/3.gifTV SPOTS
"Giant Slayer" - X-Ray Dog (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1046)
http://www.soundtrack.net/img/trailer/4.gifINTERNATIONAL TRAILER
"Eff Drone" - Methodic Doubt (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1321)
"War Zone" - audiomachine (http://www.soundtrack.net/composers/database/?id=1519)

[ALLWritety]

That is a cool site CW9 I think the music going by the klist that i like is
Ode to Joy. Do you know of anywhere I can hear that music to be sure?

Kevvers

[ALLWritety]

Yep thats the one and I have googled it - found it Great!
K

[clockwork]

Ah, right! Ode To Joy was actually featured in the first Die Hard film (because director McTiernan said the act of the robbery by the bad guys should be a joyous event) and that music was the inspiration (I think) for the wonderful score by Michael Kaman.

I haven't seen Die Hard 4 yet but I was worried about the score because Michael Kamen died about four years ago. His work was so fantastic and distinctive but a friend has said that Marco Beltrami's score for Die Hard 4 pays a pretty decent homage.

(Yes, I'm a total score-nut. :) )

itunes is a pretty good place to hunt down music when you're trying to figure out what a particular track is. Alternatively amazon.com have most of their music available to preview in samples too.

[nevada]

THey also re-use music to create a feeling in the audience. For example, most people liked Spiderman and associate, subconsciously, that music with feeling good. THerefore, if that music is played, it creates a sense of happiness with the audience which the audience then transfers to the movie being flogged. It's all about association.

Speaking of Diehard 4: Aren't you dead yet (Lol i love that) I walked out of it in the theatre. I was getting more and more annoyed and thought "what the hell am i doing still sitting here? I walked out and got my money back. Several weeks later, my brother gave me a copy on DVD and I thought, what the heck, maybe i can stomach it at home, where i'm less discerning about what I watch. Nope, didn't even get as far as I did in the theatre. I did like the Mac actor, thought he was very natural, but he so didnt make up for the total crapfest that the movie was. lol Just my opinion, of course.

[clockwork]

The problem I'm anticipating with Die Hard 4 (though I haven't seen it so what do I know?) is the lack of discernible extra "character" to the film. In Die Hard 1, the skyscraper was a character by itself, as was the airport in Die Hard 2 and the city of New York in Die Hard 3 (that's why the ending of DH3 was rank, IMO - because they abandoned New York after it had served them so well and ended the thing in Canada!)

Die Hard 4 looks as though it could be about anyone and set anywhere. It doesn't have that extra Die Hard element which made the first three work.

But I should really see it before ranting on. :)