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Does anyone know a good website were they have a history of housing and show you something like that? is that I am making a fictional civilization that has nothing to do with the classic generic medieval thing

It's a civilization that dwells at a mountain range at the edge of a desert
 

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You might want to look into Moroccan/Tunisian/Libyan architecture, especially in the Atlas Mountains of Morocco or the Gebal Akhdar of Libya (which was ancient Cyrene).

Hope this helps.

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Does anyone know a good website were they have a history of housing and show you something like that? is that I am making a fictional civilization that has nothing to do with the classic generic medieval thing

It's a civilization that dwells at a mountain range at the edge of a desert

You can download this book by Cosmos Mindeleff for free:

http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/17487
 

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Check out Iranian traditional wind towers. They used/use underground aquaducts, wind towers and thick masonary walls to stay cool.

For your story build from what you have, do the mountains have forests? or just stone? What is the social organization; nuclear families, extended families, villages, towns? What technologies have they mastered? Do they channel water, what do they use for power? What are the environmental challenges; heat? earthquakes? ultraviolet radiation? Does your culture draw on a current or past Earth culture? What art/craft are the people known for? How does their religion impact housing; altars, building orientation, decoration. What are the security requirements? Do they surround each house with a ten foot wall or not bother with doors and locks at all?
 

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Check out Iranian traditional wind towers. They used/use underground aquaducts, wind towers and thick masonary walls to stay cool.

Thanks for the Windtowers, Ken! They seem to improve my ideas of how to keep coolness. I had thought on having houses were the main floor is half underground for about the first meter.

For your story build from what you have, do the mountains have forests? or just stone? What is the social organization; nuclear families, extended families, villages, towns? What technologies have they mastered? Do they channel water, what do they use for power? What are the environmental challenges; heat? earthquakes? ultraviolet radiation? Does your culture draw on a current or past Earth culture? What art/craft are the people known for? How does their religion impact housing; altars, building orientation, decoration. What are the security requirements? Do they surround each house with a ten foot wall or not bother with doors and locks at all?

Mostly they have stone, but there are small forests and some fertile plateaus in higher lands. About the desert, I have asumed that is a Shadow Rain type of desert

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There is only one large settlement that lies on high valley and is limited by a canyon with a river within and have several villages and towns around that were founded as military outposts in strategic places

The houses of the poorer people (farmers, servants, etc.) I thought of a design based on the Shabono of the Yanomami people:
ShabanoYanomami.jpg


While more prosperous people inhabitate invidivual housings


About military outposts, I have thought on trapezoid-like blockhouses looking down from higher lands

Their agriculture apparently is based on rotative agriculture to not overuse the few fertile high plateaus. They have mastered metallurgy, thanks to the abundancy of iron and other metals on the region and thanks to this, they expanded outside the mountain range, conquered the city-states from the glasslands and slaved their citizens, leaving them as farmers to work in the more fertile glasslands and builders of military outposts and walls wereas the citizens dedicate themselves to war, science and philosophy; specially war.

Their techonology is no more advanced that the 5th Century A.C., although they have watermills in most of the many rivers that goes down the mountain and ends on the canyon river and have managed how to create aqueducts to transport water, roads and stone bridges

Around their world, they are more known as a fierce and conquering race, when a boy turns a certain age, he (with the group that was born the same day) is exhaminated and must pass a series of tasks to see if he is fit and how fit is he. They also train females, but only to spying purproses in case of one of the 3 city-states tries to revolt.

There is no formal education, most of education is passed down by older brothers and sisters, a living grandparent, or an older man in the community. When one gets old enough, usually is accepted as a protegè in a craft. The closest thing to university are the monks in their academias. They are an agalmagation of preacher, philospher, mathemathician, inventor and sages

They are ruled by a king, the descendent of the first son of the god Sun and the moon Goddess; because the duality of their religion and essential philosophy (basically it is percieved that the day and the night lives inside each person, each one with their own pros and cons and that being "good" or "bad" is just a point of view) the kings are usually named if their were born in the dark season (rain season) or the light season (dry season) as Shadow King, Mirror King, etc.

Mirrors are sacred objects because they can multiplicate light and people, some larger rooms and the royal palace are lighted with a mirror system on the daytime

Earthquakes seems to happen rarely, but they do, and usually marks one of the large ages. The calendar is divided on the ages of the earthquakes, then they are subdivided on the reign of the kings, and then a year is divided on a solar calendar that each month is a lunar phase. Every seventh day is a rest day and a "week" is of 14 days.

I have chosen not to base this civilization on a existing one, but you can notice that I have taken things from several ones, I know what I have seems a little simplistic, but at least is not the same Generic Medievaland stuff, eh?
 

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I have chosen not to base this civilization on a existing one, but you can notice that I have taken things from several ones, I know what I have seems a little simplistic, but at least is not the same Generic Medievaland stuff, eh?

Sounds potentially very cool. I wonder what you are thinking of for the population density? It sounds like there are not all that many people up in these mountains. I bet you could add more...A nice conjunction of ecological zones (mountains and canyons, apparently lots of water) such as you describe, can support relatively dense populations as around

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenochtitlan

http://www.metmuseum.org/TOAH/hd/teno_1/hd_teno_1.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Mexico

http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/map16-vl.html

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/CIVAMRCA/AZTECS.HTM

http://www.satori.geociencias.unam.mx/20-3/(9)McClung.pdf

Note that you could put in some lakes and Volcanos and it sounds like you could add a few hundred thousand people and some more city states.
 

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The setting sounds a lot like northern Peru to me (except without the seacoast). Look at some of the pre-Inca Andean cultures, like the Norte-Chico (also see 1491). There are some interesting theories about the differing ecological niches as you move up from the coast into the mountains and how the different crops from each zone played into the economic and political situation. That area is in a double rain shadow. There are river valleys with seasonal runoff from the mountains, but extremely arid conditions away from the rivers, and rapid increase in altitude over a short distance.
 

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So we have lack of wood, earthquakes, heat, lack of water and a militaristic society.

How frequent and powerful are the earthquakes? Do they build to withstand quakes? Techniques include interlocking blocks of stone, reinforcing stone walls with timber lacing and using iron rods.

There are alternatives to using stone to build, fired brick, sun dried brick, poured stone (concrete), rammed earth and mud on wood and wicker frames.

Roofs heavily influence architecture. Thatch looks great but is high maintenance and fire prone. Clay tiles can be colorful, longlasting but heavy and dangerous in quakes. Slate, also heavy is distinctive and long lasting. Wood is light but high maintenance.

Are there just forts or are houses and communities fortified? One aspect of fortification that is often over looked is that although defenses may be long lasting they have to be up to date to be effective. Some cultures instead of defending towns build refuges like your hill forts. Fortification constrains development. A walled down of ten thousand might have two miles of walls and require two thousand defenders, a purpose built fortress might only have five hundred yards of wall and could be defended by five hundred.
 

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I have thought having slate roofs or clay tides, something that goes with the architectural idea of resisting buildings

About the fortified buildings and communities, you resumed my idea; because walls seemed innecesary in such irregular space. The only fortified buildings are the military outpost and the royal palace that overlooks the rest of the main city on a high hill


About two or three Earthquakes for century. Not enough to destroy a city, but hard enough to make some parts of the higher lands to slide down


You are right, Sokal. I need to think about population density and maybe add some city-states, but one culture at the time!

Fennel, Incas were originally one of my inspirations; in fact, at the beggining I thought to mix civilizations, just to see how hard and absurd it is
 
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