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aruna
10-26-2007, 12:09 PM
....or, the Nostalgia Thread.

I just listened to this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoNd_maBbY) It brought tears to my eyes.

What other music takes you back to a warm and mellow time? Makes you want to cry for something precious that seems lost?

Cassiopeia
10-26-2007, 12:18 PM
*listens and sighs*

Oh how I miss James Taylor

Cats in the Cradle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YblA8gw2Lw) by Cat Stevens

Voyager
10-26-2007, 12:31 PM
Now you made me cry too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy3GHCy49Dw

Voyager
10-26-2007, 12:33 PM
Dang it Cass!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nZKXh4gSZCA

Voyager
10-26-2007, 12:38 PM
I'm supposed to be editing here. But okay, 2 more

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dKwApaN1k6g

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9NdJT8FUaHA

Bufty
10-26-2007, 03:05 PM
Please Don't Tell Me How The Story Ends.

I don't know if it's a new song or not but last weekend was the first time I had heard it (by chance, while waiting for Strictly Come Dancing) and Joan's version with Aly Bain is superb. I think so, anyway. Said he, dabbing his eyes.

And that line in the refrain - Heaven's just the echo of forever - is brilliant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRy53fb_7Sc

aruna
10-26-2007, 03:47 PM
HJere's another James Taylor, which made makes me homesick for a place I've never been to! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNjLUPqckWY)

Writer???
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
They say there are some still out there, but singer/songwriter/story tellers are a dwindling breed. It's sad. And to even come close to James Taylor would be so very hard anyway. I love some of most all music, but there are those (like James Taylor) that just come along at the right time and touch you in a certain way that stays with you always no matter how you and your tastes may change.

Thanks for posting this. I needed a trip "back home" just now.

ChunkyC
10-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Cats in the Cradle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YblA8gw2Lw) by Cat Stevens
That's actually Harry Chapin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLzMw5hKoVk). Whoever posted that video to youtube is confused.

Harry Chapin deserves to be remembered as a gifted songwriter. Unfortunately, a lot of people think Cat Stevens wrote that song, which is kind of sad. To the best of my knowledge (after doing some googling), Stevens never recorded the song, nor did he ever play it live. Wikipedia entry for the song here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat's_in_the_Cradle).

I miss that kind of songwriting too. I'm a big fan of people like Chapin, James Taylor, and Simon & Garfunkel, to name a few.

Shadow_Ferret
10-26-2007, 07:34 PM
Sad, because Cat Stevens wrote such great songs and that's such a mauldin sappy song it's sickening. :tongue

Actually, Cat Stevens wrote a song in a similar vein called "Father and Son." I can't post the youtube of it, if it exists, from where I am.

ChunkyC
10-26-2007, 07:50 PM
That might well be where the original confusion came from. Cat Stevens did write some great tunes, he certainly doesn't need to have other people's music attributed to him.

Cat's in the Cradle resonates with me and now that I'm far enough removed from the radio overkill when it was originally released, I can listen to it again and enjoy it for what it is; an insightful look at the relationship between father and son in our modern society. At least that's how it affects me.

BenPanced
10-26-2007, 07:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMD7Ezp3gWc

Yeah, everybody's posting James Taylor and Harry Chapin, but the Ramones were part of my muscial generation and with a couple members of the band dead, well...

Gabba gabba hey!

C.bronco
10-26-2007, 07:59 PM
That's actually Harry Chapin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLzMw5hKoVk). Whoever posted that video to youtube is confused.
I always hated that song since I was a child because it made me feel completely miserable. I think the first time I heard it I was four.

My preference would be Bridge Over Troubled Water.

Jacob
10-26-2007, 08:03 PM
....or, the Nostalgia Thread.

I just listened to this song. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EoNd_maBbY) It brought tears to my eyes.

What other music takes you back to a warm and mellow time? Makes you want to cry for something precious that seems lost?
That is a great song. I love James Taylor. These days its really hard imagine what next great "classics" in the singer/songwriter genre will be. Its hard for me to think that anyone will come along and write songs like James Taylor or Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen etc..but on a brighter note there is still some hope left with modern artists like ..Gillian Welch, Sam Beam, Mary Gauthier, Tony Dekkar. Most of the music I like that takes me back(all 24 years of it :) are the classics like Taylor with the exception of the artisits listed above and a few others.

ChunkyC
10-26-2007, 08:17 PM
I always hated that song since I was a child because it made me feel completely miserable. I think the first time I heard it I was four.
I was just leaving home at the time it came out, probably part of the reason it really struck a chord with me. (chord -- guitar -- *snortgiggle*)

My preference would be Bridge Over Troubled Water.
Beautiful song. Scarborough Fair (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dau2_Lt8pbM) is one of my favourite S&G recordings.

Ol' Fashioned Girl
10-26-2007, 08:22 PM
I always hated that song since I was a child because it made me feel completely miserable. I think the first time I heard it I was four.

That song is a perfect description of my relationship with my mother... I can't hear it without thinking of her and wishing for things that could never be.

Cassiopeia
10-26-2007, 08:25 PM
My oldest boy said it reminded of him and his dad when he was 15. A few months later he moved in with his Dad and they have been close ever since.

III
10-26-2007, 08:28 PM
:Hug2: This thread just makes me wanna hug.

ChunkyC
10-26-2007, 08:31 PM
C'mere ya big lug....

http://bestsmileys.com/hugging/4.gif

benbradley
10-26-2007, 08:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMD7Ezp3gWc

Yeah, everybody's posting James Taylor and Harry Chapin, but the Ramones were part of my muscial generation and with a couple members of the band dead, well...

Gabba gabba hey!
Well, that song made this illustrious "top 100" list
http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/vote/list100.html
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1114972
along with James Taylor's "Fire and Rain" from the Sweet Baby james album, but no mention of Chapin or Stevens.

I recall that Harry Chapin basically had two hits, "Cats in the Cradle" which I thought was sort-of okay, one of many poignant songs about children growing up, usually too fast for parents ("Father and Son" was already mentioned, there's also [have kleenex handy] "The Circle Game" and "Sunrise, Sunset"). And then there was "Taxi" which I thought was horribly depressing, and I'm afraid that's what I'll always remember him for.

I've always wondered why, since both Stevens and Taylor wrote so many great songs themselves, that they did covers, and even had hits with them ("Another Saturday Night" for Stevens, probably the last before he stopped recording, and "Handy Man" and others for Taylor).

Mud Dauber
10-26-2007, 09:24 PM
I've always wondered why, since both Stevens and Taylor wrote so many great songs themselves, that they did covers, and even had hits with them ("Another Saturday Night" for Stevens, probably the last before he stopped recording, and "Handy Man" and others for Taylor).
I didn't know that about "Another Saturday Night". Who wrote the original?

I have to chime in here because I love Cat Stevens. All of his songs take me back to childhood, and my sister playing his records over and over again until I knew every single word by default, just cuz she always had his songs on in the house. It wasn't til I got older and really started listening to his lyrics that I realized what a great songwriter he is. More than anything I appreciate the optimism and hope he conveyed through his songs.

Can I get in on the hug?:e2grouphu ;)

benbradley
10-26-2007, 09:27 PM
....or, the Nostalgia Thread.

I just listened to this song. It brought tears to my eyes.

What other music takes you back to a warm and mellow time? Makes you want to cry for something precious that seems lost?

I think there's still a lot of "good music" being performed and recorded. This may not be the "best" example, but Tom Wolf is well-known at least among Atlanta-area musicians. He's got two serious and two amusing songs on his myspace page here:
http://www.myspace.com/tomwolf
Also check out his myspace friends, especially Cyndi Craven, a small woman (she's something like 5-foot-4) with a big voice. I've seen these two and many others playing live around Atlanta many times.

I go to a monthly "song circle" where we go around the room, each person picking a song for all of us to sing. Many are rank amateurs, and a few are really experienced musicians and songwriters. There's one song I'm thinking of a guy wrote about his child that's really nice, next time I see him I'll ask if he has a recording of it online, or if I can make a recording of it and put it up (I'd look for a myspace page, but I can't even remember the guy's name!). Now that I read this thread and think of that song, I feel pretty lucky I get to hear him sing the song in someone's living room with a dozen other people.

There's a lot of "good music" out there, a whole lot more than they could ever play on pop radio.

Mud Dauber
10-26-2007, 09:29 PM
They say there are some still out there, but singer/songwriter/story tellers are a dwindling breed. It's sad. And to even come close to James Taylor would be so very hard anyway. I love some of most all music, but there are those (like James Taylor) that just come along at the right time and touch you in a certain way that stays with you always no matter how you and your tastes may change.
I totally disagree. I think there are many great new songwriters out there but a lot of people from the James Taylor/Cat Stevens era are not as open to new stuff. Granted, thanks to shows like American Idol, manufactured pop is shoved down our throats, but it doesn't mean good music and songwriting isn't out there. You just have to know where to find it.:)

benbradley
10-26-2007, 09:32 PM
I didn't know that about "Another Saturday Night". Who wrote the original?

I have to chime in here because I love Cat Stevens. All of his songs take me back to childhood, and my sister playing his records over and over again until I knew every single word by default, just cuz she always had his songs on in the house. It wasn't til I got older and really started listening to his lyrics that I realized what a great songwriter he is. More than anything I appreciate the optimism and hope he conveyed through his songs.

Can I get in on the hug?:e2grouphu ;)
I remember it was a old Motown song. I found a recording here, it's written and performed by Sam Cooke:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uXQV9cANDXU

Mud Dauber
10-26-2007, 09:32 PM
There's a lot of "good music" out there, a whole lot more than they could ever play on pop radio.
Oops--almost a double post.

I guess we think alike.:)

Shadow_Ferret
10-26-2007, 09:34 PM
:Hug2: This thread just makes me wanna hug.
You misspelled gag in your sentence there. :tongue

Mud Dauber
10-26-2007, 09:37 PM
I remember it was a old Motown song. I found a recording here, it's written and performed by Sam Cooke:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uXQV9cANDXU
Wow! It's something to hear the original version of a song I've always thought was the only version. Thanks for the link.

aruna
10-26-2007, 09:47 PM
Here's something quite different... (http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9Y6ARjIL-E)

(and I too was a great Cat Stevens fan)

ChunkyC
10-26-2007, 10:42 PM
Love that song. :)

Shadow_Ferret
10-27-2007, 05:36 AM
Fine. You guys want sappy sentimentality?

Here. This group was the king of that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24IfD-0VUu4

And I will never admit to saying I love this group. Nope. Never heard it from me. Uh-Uh.

Cassiopeia
10-27-2007, 05:57 AM
*sighs while listening to Bread*

Oh... I am 15 again, sunbathing in my little orange bikini on the docks at the lake where my Dad had a summer house in Lake Carmel, N.Y., watching my boyfriend TommyJoe McMannis as he sat in his life guard tower knowing he was all mine. :D

Nolita
10-28-2007, 03:20 AM
Yeah I'm a dork but Dust In The Wind (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hkbdP7sq0w8) by Kansas is still a fave. Highlander reference doesn't hurt. Okay so I'm also a geekette.

More modern warm and fuzzies come from Birdhouse In Your Soul (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ODV96SxhO74) by They Might Be Giants. And how old am I because I think that's a more modern song? Gah! The thread's making me feel old :(.

rugcat
10-28-2007, 04:06 AM
Here's an old obscure Gene Chandler song (http://youtube.com/watch?v=p_t5XboAA_U)which has always been one of my favorites. I always wanted to do a cover version with my band, but we couldn't pull it off -- you need Gene.

I think the video is from one of those early awful 60's music shows Hullabaloo or Shindig or the like-- not a live performance, unfortunately. But what a singer.

Voyager
10-28-2007, 04:19 AM
CSNY? http://youtube.com/watch?v=8l07SUKQw7Q

And the master: http://youtube.com/watch?v=BCO8KkkmdIE

Shadow_Ferret
10-28-2007, 05:37 AM
This song isn't overly sentimental, or emotional, or whatever. I just think it is a beautiful song with great sound. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgwETZKNPZc) Maybe I'm just a sucker for great sax.

rhymegirl
10-28-2007, 07:18 AM
Since we're going down memory lane, here's one of the best songwriters ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcrEqIpi6sg

rhymegirl
10-28-2007, 07:34 AM
Here's another Joni Mitchell song I love:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep7uySNpUyw

Cassiopeia
10-28-2007, 08:39 AM
I love Joni Mitchell. It takes me back to a time when things were just...

some how...more simple.

JRH
11-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Just a Sidenote.

Both Sides Now WAS written and sung by Joni Mitchell in March 1967 and her recording of it first appeared on the album Clouds, released in 1969. and later on the album of the same name, but Judy Collins did the first recording of the song in 1968 (shortly after Mitchell wrote it), and her version reached the top ten on the U.S. pop singles charts and won a 1968 Grammy Award for Best Folk Performance.

The Circle Game is also beautiful but was likewise released by Tom Rush before Joni's recording of it was released.

JRH

aka eraser
11-09-2007, 09:43 PM
I blogged (partly) about a young woman who impressed me very much with this performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffl3ZUKmyPg) from the David Letterman show last week. I think she's got that certain "something" that marks her as one to watch.