Is it acceptable to laugh at McGonagall?

Priene

Out to lunch
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Aug 25, 2007
Messages
6,422
Reaction score
879
Just a follow on from the world's worst poem thread.

Obviously, despite the occasional support from ironists, William McGonagall had no poetic talent. His work is sometimes laugh-out-loud funny, though a great deal (I confess I've read his Complete Works) is simply tedious.

That he is famous at all is down to mockery. In his self-description, McGonagall is a pompous, obsequious non-entity with absolutely no self-awareness. He apparently had no idea how bad his work actually was. At performances, they threw cabbages at him just because he was so...throwable.

And that's where I'm in two minds about McGonagall. He knew how people felt about his work, but he kept on producing it, and kept on giving recitals. An actor, he had successfully carved out a living for himself. When he walked sixty miles to Balmoral to ask to be made Poet Laureate, was he serious? Or was it a comic stunt? Was McGonagall's persona just an act?

If it was, then he was fantastic, as we're still talking about him. If not, he was a sad, deluded fool. Laughing at someone like that is mocking the afflicted.
 

nerds

of all the gin joints
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
1,057
Reaction score
1,489
Sorry.

I found his barge poem hilarious. But I'm fairly sure I wasn't supposed to, and that's the problem with it. Had it been written as spoof or satire, then, brilliant.

It's really the publishers who deserve skewering. Why and how some stuff makes its way into print (in any genre) is truly beyond me, when there are plenty of writers out there who do not murder the English language, do know how to communicate, and can't get arrested.

Your point is well-taken, however.

:)
 

Billytwice

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 10, 2006
Messages
1,945
Reaction score
298
Location
S.Wales UK
Sorry.

I found his barge poem hilarious. But I'm fairly sure I wasn't supposed to,

I think you'll find the barge poem was written by Theophile Marzials and is used in comparison to the works of McGonagall in the original thread.

The point I was trying to make in that thread was we are still discussing McGanagall's works and the fact they managed to get into print in the first place.

Ergo, the man was a genius!

I certainly regard him with as much esteem as 'poetry emperors' such as Dylan Thomas (and their new clothes poetry.) But then, I am but a small voice in the crowd.

Coming back to McGonagall; his poetry makes much more sense and dare I say it, is far more enjoyable if spoken in a strong Scott’s brogue. Glaswegian for example. The Edinburgh accent being far too refined.
I'm thinking of something along the lines of the poet McTeagle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zHzIoMJhf0
 

nerds

of all the gin joints
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
1,057
Reaction score
1,489
I think you'll find the barge poem was written by Theophile Marzials and is used in comparison to the works of McGonagall in the original thread.


Right you are, that was fatigue on my part. Too many barges do weigh heavily on tired brains. :sleepy:

Enjoyed reading your points.
 

KTC

Stand in the Place Where You Live
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 24, 2005
Messages
29,138
Reaction score
8,564
Location
Toronto
Website
ktcraig.com
I'd rather eat glass slivers than read it.
 

Zelenka

Going home!
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 1, 2007
Messages
2,921
Reaction score
488
Age
46
Location
Prague now, Glasgow in November
I was brought up laughing at McGonagall. My granddad used to recite the one about the bull when I was tiny. I'd never thought of him deliberately cultivating his image in order to get into print. It's an interesting point, and I like the idea of him having the joke on society. I always found that story of how they'd tricked him into thinking he'd got an award really sad.
 

Billytwice

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 10, 2006
Messages
1,945
Reaction score
298
Location
S.Wales UK
Some new information has come to my attention.
In a recent BBC TV show Griff Rhys-Jones listed several famous poets who turned down the post of Poet Laureate when offered it.
So, the job was not always held in high regard.
Maybe it was during this period that McGonagall was offered the post.
Could it be possible that the offer was a serious one and not a prank afterall?
Or maybe McGonagall was genuinely interested in an unpopular positon and thought he had a good chance of getting it?