"Up" and "down"

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Right now I'm straining my manuscript for gnats. Er, useless words. On my list were "actually," "that," "somewhat," and "a little."

I have two new words I can delete in almost every instance: UP and DOWN. Oh, and BACK.

He folded up the chair.

He went back down the hall.

He was about to go up and break the door down.

He sank back into the leather seat.

He sat down on the bench.

She went up to him and tapped his shoulder.

AAAAAAAAAAGH!

Well, at least this helps me cut my word count some more. ;)
 

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He was about to go up and break the door down.

My favorite thing from your post! Any chance that line originally started with "Actually"? ;)

Good for you, putting your manuscript through the strainer! And thank goodness for the "Find" function!
 

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My favorite thing from your post! Any chance that line originally started with "Actually"? ;)

Good for you, putting your manuscript through the strainer! And thank goodness for the "Find" function!

There might have been a "really" in the vicinity, but I'm not telling. ;)
 

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My crit partner is the bomb at pointing out extra words. Over is another one. She waddled over to the jukebox.


 

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Agreed. These things are insidious. They creep into a manuscript in the dark, when you're sleeping. They don't even sound bad, read out loud, but they are often pure fluff. Every time I see someone here complain that they can't possibly cut any more words from their novel manuscript, I guarantee they could find a thousand of these superfluous prepositional modifiers.

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I have a lot of these fluffy words and I haven't decided how to handle them. I'm writing my memoir so it needs to sound like me. I'm very sarcastic and don't want to overdue it, but I don't think I should scrap ALL the reallys, etc. I'm aware when I'm writing them because I know they're unnecessary, but that's how I talk.
 

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And should we edit Bob Marley?

Oh, these are always so much fun.

Up and down can be extraneous or useful. For example, some people claim Bob sat down is redundant.

Well, that depends on what we already know. If we know Bob is standing, sure, it's redundant (though not exactly criminal). But if we're early in a scene, and haven't positioned Bob in the readers mind, there's a big difference between Bob sat down (because he is standing) and Bob sat up (because he is lying down).

To go back to an example form the original post, I prefer He sank back into the leather seat rather than the improvement He sank into the leather seat. Sinking back into something is different from merely sinking into something, as the latter gives the notion He may be headed for the floor, and possibly disappearing altogether: He sank into the leather seat and was never seen again.

There are also times when rhythm and common usage may make the addition of these extra words a good idea. My ear prefers She waddled over to the jukebox to She waddled to the jukebox. (This is partly because the syntactical slot filled by over is begging for something--She waddled across the scuffed linoleum toward the jukebox or some such.)

And there are phrases like He wandered over to assess the damage which make no sense without the 'excess' word; He wandered to assess the damage makes no sense.

The name of the game as I see it isn't cutting words; it's cutting words when that involves an improvement. For example, I wouldn't have counseled Bob Marley to change Stand up for your rights to Stand for your rights. Up, down, over, etc. should always be carefully examined, but that doesn't mean the writing is always improved by their removal.

As George Orwell put it, there are certain rules for writing, and one ought to break any of them rather than say something barbaric.
 

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I hate these as well, and you're right, there are very few instances where up, down, and back do ANYTHING. Though I think "he broke the door" and "he broke the door down" come across two different ways.
I agree.

I also would make a case for "go back" or "come back." Going back down the hall is a little different from just going down the hall. But... if you look at your "go back"s or "come back"s, you can replace them with "return"s some of the time, so you still can reduce words (of course, context might make a difference).
 

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I remember reading something by a writing guru who complained about writers who had a bad case of the "thens." The guru was talking about the overuse of the word, e.g.:

"Bruce stood up. He looked around cautiously. Then he crossed the room and picked up the machete. But what could he do with it? He put it back down. Then he walked to the refrigerator and pulled out a beer. Did he hear someone moving outside? He shivered, then walked to the window. Then he heard another sound. He picked up the machete again, and then..."
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My personal curse is excess of "thats". Always have to trim about a hundred.
 

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Yeah, I just cut out at least a hundred words just by searching for all of the following and getting rid of the unnecessary ones: that, just, really, actually, seems, though, still... Amazing how they sneak in there.
 

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"Then" used to be the one I used until an editor sent a ms back to me to be edited and told me to stop-over using it. The experience cured me. I had used it 16 times in the first chapter!

Other words I look for that creep in are "there" and "it" with no direct antecedent. "Just" also gets the axe. "Finally" can usually go.
 

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I would say "he broke down the door" in that instance.

Cormac McCarthy would write: He found the door locked from the inside. He turned back, leaned against the wall. Through the window old gothic soffits hung with tar and lapsing paintflakes. Ragged cats picked their way over the glass and black dogs in the dooryards beyond the railsiding twitched in their sleep. He balled his fist and lunged at the door. He hit it very hard. It detached from the hinges and slewed dust motes rising like brown angels passing through the broken window pane. Two brown rats came from under the bed like great hairy beetles and scampered between his legs and down the hall.
 
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In my recently published story, "moved" was a word that had been used a lot.

Her hands moved down his back
He moved to her neck, ect, ect.

My editor suggested ways they moved like "inched" because I kept adding slowly to it not realizing it. I didn't even realize I was doing it lol. And when it was edited before sending it out, I never caught it. A friend of mine helped me with a final edit before it was sent out and she didn't catch it either. In fact, I think she even added one lol. But it is completely changed now.

You're not going to be able to catch all of those pesty repeats and some of them may appear ok to you but will seem too much for the editor, who knows. Polish it the best you can and hope for the best. Besides, chances of them rejecting it because you used one word too many times is very small. It can happen but likely. Just do the best you can. Good luck and I wish you the best in making this a best seller! I really hope all of us get there!

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I check all my THATS and all my LY words.
 

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Here's another one I picked up from a writing guru: redundant use of "now."

Examples: "There were now three people at the table."

"She knew it was time to make that phone call now."

"Now the senator stepped to the microphone."

I think the guru was on to something. However, "now" does have its uses. In the first example, there may have been two people at the table a minute ago, and you want to underline the fact that there has been a change. In the second example, "now" is unnecessary, but you might want to use it for emphasis. In the third example, you might be writing about a sequence of events--first this happened, then that happened, and "now the senator stepped to the microphone."

Nevertheless, in writing fiction I do try to avoid "now" as much as I can.

(Another point the guru was making was that, since you're writing in the past tense, "now" doesn't make sense. I don't buy that part of the argument.)
 
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On my editing cheatsheet, I have a list of about 50 words. Up, down, now, then, but, was, were etc, are used in Word searches. Everytime I read a writing manual I find something to add to my cheatsheet.

It takes me a long time to edit, but that's why I'm acclaimed by my family as the best writer residing in the house.
 

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I'd be interested in what words are on your cheatsheet RickN. What else besides those seven are on it? I think I need to make such a cheatsheet and appreciate this thread, thanks for posting it JoNightshade. ;) :)
 

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I'm another "then" addict. Trying to curb my addiction.

I also tend to write compound sentences that end up better as either separate sentences or with one of the two sentences changed to a subordinate clause.

Here's a basic example:
"Her denim shorts were streaked with yellow paint, and they matched her tie-dyed shirt well." (Now picture this sentence structure at least once in every paragraph. No no no.)

"In paint-streaked denim shorts that matched her yellowish red tie-dyed shirt, she..."

Tighter and more effective as a lead-in to action.
 

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I have two more that tend to add redundancy are are rarely needed: any and own.

Such as, the always laughable, "He choked on his own vomit." I shudder to think who else's vomit one could choke on.
 
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