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Your opinions will help me decide the details on an affair that one of my characters is having.

Do you consider all of the following to be full-on adultery or is there a hazy line somewhere in between:

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact
*kissing
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact
*sex with a prostitute while out of town
 

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Your opinions will help me decide the details on an affair that one of my characters is having.

Do you consider all of the following to be full-on adultery or is there a hazy line somewhere in between:

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact
*kissing
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact
*sex with a prostitute while out of town

When you break faith with your partner, you are cheating. Whether you are having physical contact or not is not relevant. The key to cheating is are you living up to what you and your spouse, partner, friend, or social living arrangement person have agreed is responsible behavior. If not, it is cheating.
 

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*on-line affair, but never meeting in person -- hazy
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact -- hazy
*kissing -- definitely over the line, maybe not a full-on affair but close
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact No
*sex with a prostitute while out of town -- definitely an affair
 

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Hmm . . .

I bet you'll get a number of different responses.

For me I'd say that 1,3,5 are probably cheating. 1 - because you call it an affair, so I am imagining cyber-sex and the lot, as well as the emotional connectedness. 3 - Maybe Iim old fashioned but I feel physical contact is almost always cheating. Especially if the truth is hidden from the partner. 5 - to me sex is cheating, especially just because of the danger of diseases, and the idea that the person is out of town and needs to get their jollies.

As for the others: 2 could be, but . . . see I come from a world where everyone flirts with everyone so it's not taken seriously. I can imagine if you don't come from such an environment, it could then become a much bigger deal. And 4, I think could be cheating if the person is close with this friend to the point that the intimacy with their own partner has suffered.

But of course what it all comes down to is the couple and the communication. If the person is open and honest about the behaviour . . . if the other member of the couple approves. . . (I know people with open relationships) then in the end, it is only cheating if it hurts the other person (and by this I mean that when you tell the other person they are okay with it, not keeping it a secret and then therefore they aren't hurt because they don't know. That's wrong).

Out of all the suggestions to me 1 is quite possibly the worst because it implies full out emotional and sexual devotion to someone else. It is easier to deal with the other four because one of the two components are missing, either the emotional or physical connection.

But I am interested to see what others think!
 

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Here's what I think.

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person
On the hazy line.

*heavy flirting, but no physical contact
Not adultery, but heading that way.

*kissing
Not adultery, but heading that way.

*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact
Not adultery.

*sex with a prostitute while out of town
Definitely adultery.
 

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What does the partner consider cheating? What will push the partner to the reaction you want?

That's what's cheating, for your story :)
 

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Your opinions will help me decide the details on an affair that one of my characters is having.

Do you consider all of the following to be full-on adultery or is there a hazy line somewhere in between:

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact
*kissing
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact
*sex with a prostitute while out of town
That all sounds like cheating to me. The "close friend and confidante" one is the only point that's even a little hazy. The others: Cheating!
 

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If any or all of these are kept secret from the spouse, they're all cheating. Close friend I can accept, so long as the spouse knows they exist.

Except sex with a pro - that's just plain old fashioned cheatin'.
 

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If any or all of these are kept secret from the spouse, they're all cheating. Close friend I can accept, so long as the spouse knows they exist.

Except sex with a pro - that's just plain old fashioned cheatin'.
MM, I think you hit the nail on the head there.
 

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*on-line affair, but never meeting in person - Affair, not adultery
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact - Unfair, not adultery
*kissing - adultery, not Adultery
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact - affair waiting to happen, but not adultery
*sex with a prostitute while out of town - perfectly okay
*Constantly posting as a liberal in the Political Forum to get Robaie worked up - definitely adultery

ETA: Of COURSE I'm kidding, Bug!
 
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*on-line affair, but never meeting in person - I wouldn't personally call it an affair, but the intent is there and I'd definitely be very, very annoyed

*heavy flirting, but no physical contact - not an affair, but as with #1, the intent is clearly there and some ass-kicking is in order

*kissing - same as above. If there's tongue, that is. A lot of my friends of either sex kiss just as an affectionate thing, but as far as I know tonsil hockey is a no-no even if they're really drunk.

*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact - I sure hope not. Out of my 5 closest friends, 3 are male, so I'd be in trouble. :D

*sex with a prostitute while out of town - oh yeah.
 

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*on-line affair, but never meeting in person - WANTING TO CHEAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH WITH IT.

*heavy flirting, but no physical contact - A TEASE. DANGEROUS. POSSIBLE CHEATER.

*kissing - OH YES...CHEATER.


*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact - UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR. NOT TO BE DEEMED AS TRUSTWORTHY. RELATIONSHIP ISSUES. MIGHT AS WELL CHEAT.

*sex with a prostitute while out of town - SAD. THERE IS AN UNDERLYING STORY. WHY DID HE SLEEP WITH A PROSTITUTE? SEX ADDICT? PERVERT?
 

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on-line affair, but never meeting in person: Cheating. You're forming a romantic emotional bond with somebody else, in secret. And even without physical contact in-person, an online relationship can be very sexual. You're mentally betraying your partner. To women, this is usually considered serious--to men, I'm not sure.

heavy flirting, but no physical contact: Hazy--it depends if the flirting is serious, and if it's open. Some people flirt as a joke, but it doesn't mean anything. Other people flirt because of real sexual tension, and if that's the case, heavy flirting could be crossing the line.

kissing: Cheating. You're acting on an attraction to someone else.

having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact: Not cheating; there's nothing romantic or sexual about it. People should be allowed to have friends of the opposite sex. Gets a little hazy if the friendship is a secret and if they tell this friend lots of things they won't tell their partner.

sex with a prostitute while out of town: Cheating. Even if it's just meaningless sex, you're totally disregarding your partner's feelings for the sake of physical gratification.
 

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This is funny, because we were just having this discussion on another board I belong to, because of something a woman's husband did. Anyway, here are my answers:

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person Definately cheating

*heavy flirting, but no physical contact Not cheating, but I don't think it's a good thing

*kissing I would consider this cheating

*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact No, not at all. I have friends of the opposite sex.

*sex with a prostitute while out of town Definately cheating, and this would, I think, be harder to get over than any of the rest of them.
 

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*on-line affair, but never meeting in person Hazy. I wouldn't like it & the relationship would need some serious evalutating after that
*heavy flirting, but no physical contact Not so bad as long as it's in public. Private flirting in a back room is hazy.
*kissing Cheating. Not end the marriage cheating, but bad.
*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact Perfectly fine, assuming other knows about the relationship.
*sex with a prostitute while out of town Cheating
 

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Off course it all the mentioned points define the Loose character of a person.
 

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i'd say the 'hazy' issues are cheating if there's 'intent to cheat' involved. there's emotional cheating and physical cheating, imo. if i say to some member here something flirty, it's just trying to be humourous, never have i PMed someone asking for their picture and inappropriate details. i have shared details of my life with anyone interested, but there's no intent involved.

another standard i use in deciding what's cheating and what isn't is how *i'd* feel if the shoe was on the other foot. for example, i know some guys who don't think oral sex is cheating, but i bet they'd have a different tune if they went home early from work to find wifey on her knees giving the mailman a good time on the couch. i find people are often a lot more jealous than they let on and when it comes to this stuff not only is there a double-standard (both ways), but a lot of hypocrisy.

in general situations, and to answer your question:

*on-line affair, but never meeting in person ~ meaning cybersex? yes, because, as mentioned, there's a breach of trust. not only that, but it's a cinch there's intent involved if the two were to ever meet

*heavy flirting, but no physical contact ~ it's also a cinch that your SO flirted heavily with you. asking them to tone it down is okay, but i wouldn't count on it or expect it. it's rather like you girlfriend dressing like a slut while you were dating, now that you're together she should stop. well, ideally, yeah, you hope she will (maybe), but if it's a matter of contention you shouldn't have hooked up with a hooch in the first place. i assume, though, that this heavy flirting isn't in character, but since no other context is provided i have to say no off-hand. it can be, though.

*kissing ~ definitely, it's intent that's likely to escalate

*having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact ~ no, that's silly. that said, i don't trust men around my wife if they're alone. that's why i have to trust my wife. if i didn't trust my wife, i wouldn't have married her.

*sex with a prostitute while out of town ~ yeah, i think that qualifies, lol.


what constitutes cheating isn't necessarily what you think is cheating, it's what your SO thinks it is. if the other person feel betrayed, that's cheating to them and that's all that really matters, eh? in my opinion, of course, and speaking in general terms without specifics. hope that helps. :)
 

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'*sex with a prostitute while out of town - SAD. THERE IS AN UNDERLYING STORY. WHY DID HE SLEEP WITH A PROSTITUTE? SEX ADDICT? PERVERT?' ~ not necessarily. he could just be bored. not an excuse, but an addict and/or a pervert that doesn't make.

it's funny, though: were i to walk into the bedroom and my wife was naked with her best female friend, i'd say, hey, hey, make room for me! it would only be cheating if i couldn't join in. or the other chick was ugly and i wouldn't bang her with, say, peedee's dick.
 

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All are cheating except for the friend, as long as the spouse knows about the friendship and has access to all the PMs friend sends you daily while you're on AW. :D
 

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I think everything you said constitutes as adultery except this:

having a member of the opposite sex as a close friend and confidant but no physical contact

My rule of thumb is that if you wouldn't do it openly around your partner, then you know it's probably wrong and violates the rules of your relationship.
 

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Cheating

If a person needs to do any of these things, they have a marriage or partnership that has serious problems. And they aren't real bright if they think any or all are going to be fine with a spouse.
 

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*glad I'm not mixed up with the you-can't-have-opposite-gender-friends crowd*
 
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