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lfraser

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So here I am doing a quick review of the last few pages I've written so I can get started and I realize that over the last six months I have, with an enormous amount of effort expended, written 175 pages of umitigated crap. This isn't just your garden variety beginner stuff, either. This is the real deal; genuine, I-should-know-better, throw-it-across-the-room awfulness. Stunningly bad. A stinker.

I keep hearing encouraging comments about how if I keep writing I will get better. Yet I find myself in this weird alternate universe in which the more I write the worse I get. I was once an articulate woman. Now I am not. If this keeps up I will soon be communicating in grunts.

I fear this will be my last communication....
 

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Hi, I think I might know how you're feeling.

I recently went to a writer's conference and there were a lot of great words of advice offered, but something that comes to mind that two published (one quite prolific) writers said was that it is crucial to give yourself permission to write absolute crap. Both of them no matter how many novels they have published, doubt their work, it's quality and think or know during the process that it is utter crap. But that's ok, because to improve you gotta get the story out, first. Strengthening it is easier to do once you can see where it needs to be nurtured and supported.

That advice stays with me as I struggle through some of my stuff and it helps. The other advice that comes to mind is to be realistic, but focus on the strengths when you can. Six months of 175 pages that you aren't happy with is horribly frustrating - but on the other hand that's 175 pages toward your goal you didn't have before and it is a lot further than nothing written at all. Keep going, note the things to be worked out and then hit it in your rewrite - this is presumably your first draft? You can keep what works or know you haven't wasted your time because you are improving by learning your strengths and places to work on.

I'm applying this to what I write now, which at the moment and I'm not all that happy with either. But I'm going to keep writing just the same. Its the only way to get better and reach my goals. I hope that you keep going and reach your goals too.

Good luck and this helps a bit!
 

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No, no! No encouragement! Stamp it out! Stamp it out! Lest I unleash this torrent of drivel on some unsuspecting chump browsing through SYW.
 

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I think you should give up and move over. Now, before the trend turns. You know, before the "it has to get worse before it gets better"-thing kicks in with the better-thing.

Just quit now.
 

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heh! like Willowmound says -- stop kicking yourself now and you won't have to worry 'bout it no more...

hey, the only writers who will not improve are ones lacking self-doubt... as you doubtless know, this attitude applies to everything on earth -- if one believes they can improve no further, then so it is.

so get back on the writing horse, 'k??
 

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Ah. C'mon. Do you really think you've done all that practice and all that work only to have gotten worse at writing than you were? Do you think it's possible that you've improved to the point where you can recognize the flaws in your own work?
 

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Take a good look at your story. If it's the story that sucks, change it or chuck it. If it's the writing, maybe you're trying too hard. Reading all the "Learn Writing" threads, advice on adverbs, this that and the other no-no, outline, take notes, beware of this, watch out for that, you can get writer's cramp in the head. Just put words on paper, the way you talk, to start. Maybe tell your story to a tape recorder, work from there.

I am struggling with a WIP that I am totally unsure of. I don't know if the story itself will pass muster. If I finally decide it's unrepairable I'll cross off the past two months as nice exercise and start something else.
 

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Sometimes getting better involves realizing how much you suck. Maybe you just thought you were all right before, and now your writing senses are becoming so heightened that your attempts to produce something that is "good" are resulting in more crap. Okay that didn't make much sense. IE:

1) Before, you didn't know what was wrong with your writing. It wasn't great, but it was okay.
2) Then you learned some stuff about writing. You tried to improve.
3) Your attempts to consciously improve have gotten in the way with #1 - the okay writing - turning it into drivel.
4) New writing is even worse.

So I still say, push onward. You're improving even if it doesn't look like it. Read a lot. Write a lot. Keep going.
 

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Yeah, sometimes I feel like it's a total waste of time. That's why I quite about six years ago. But I'm back so maybe I can't quite forever. I still love it.

Maybe writers are all masochist. lol
 

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I think you should give up and move over. Now, before the trend turns. You know, before the "it has to get worse before it gets better"-thing kicks in with the better-thing.

Just quit now.

Right! You see, I KNEW someone would understand. :D

I wonder if it would be easier on my pride if I just fed each page into the shredder as it comes out of the printer.
 

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You could probably even arrange the two next to each other in such a way that it happened automatically.

Would save you time.
 

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You could probably even arrange the two next to each other in such a way that it happened automatically.

Would save you time.

I was thinking about that. I'd have to buy a new printer, though. The one I have feeds printed pages out the top.
 

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So here I am doing a quick review of the last few pages I've written so I can get started and I realize that over the last six months I have, with an enormous amount of effort expended, written 175 pages of umitigated crap. This isn't just your garden variety beginner stuff, either. This is the real deal; genuine, I-should-know-better, throw-it-across-the-room awfulness. Stunningly bad. A stinker.

I keep hearing encouraging comments about how if I keep writing I will get better. Yet I find myself in this weird alternate universe in which the more I write the worse I get. I was once an articulate woman. Now I am not. If this keeps up I will soon be communicating in grunts.

I fear this will be my last communication....

I know the subject matter is serious, oh boy do I know! but I did find your post to be well written and entertaining... some encouragement to be gained from that if nothing else? :)
 

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How about you put it down for a few days and not even think about writing. Pick up underwater basket weaving or backgammon, or tiddly winks or something. Immerse yourself in something else for a WEEK. Then, gently-kindly, go back to your work and refamiliarize yourself with it. I hope that wasn't too encouraging. I didn't mean it to be. DIVORCE yourself completely. Then say hello and get back to writing. Your PLACE at the moment is not a good one. To continue on the same train would hinder rather than help.
 

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Hopefully you don't have a friend like mine who, when I was ready to shred every page I'd ever written, told me (after she'd screamed unintelligible words into the phone) "If you give up now, you will disappoint everyone who believes in you." (ARG! Friend guilt is the worst!)

I slunk away to my pity corner and sulked for a while. After a good night's sleep and a meal, I realized my work was genius! (Okay, maybe not quite genius, but I wasn't a hack either).

Of course about a month later I was ready to shred everything again.

I think it's all part of the process, and I'm learning to embrace it although sometimes it does lead me to question my sanity.
 

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I've said it before, but it's worth saying again...

Allow yourself to suck. Allow yourself to suck. Allow yourself to suck.

No one played Rachmaninoff the first time they sat down at the piano. It's all part of the learning process. Those are not wasted pages. They're just part of the sacrifice you need to go through...
 

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I feel your pain. I've reached a juncture where I'm thinking if I haven't got somewhere by the end of this year, I'll just pack it all in.

But don't follow my example. That would be v. bad.
 

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Well, I have some advice.

But let me explain how I got to it.

I'm currently working on an unfinished horror novel from 2006. I'm in the process of rewriting it and have recently printed out 20,000 words worth of the stuff. I read the printout to get the scope of it...But what I got instead was a huge whiff of its stinky-ness.

Plot holes, stupid coincidence of meanings behind descriptions in the paragraphs, sentence phrasing blah blah. You name it. It's a first draft, but it looks so hopeless.

Now the explanation.

I was able to get into a reading groove. As I latched onto a good section that read okay-all right-pretty cool stuff, I began to immediately change things in my mind that would instantly fit. If I had a pen, this would be like editing.

I found places where I could've added more to the scene, I found ways to re-write the organization of interaction, phrasing rhythms--basically all that good stuff rolled into one. But the key was to find a spot where you can sink into your own manuscript, just like a reader reading a book for the first time. Chuck out all writer preconceptions. Forget rules. Just read it and try to enjoy it. And then you'll become a fountain full of ideas. You'll find places where "ohh, a description of the stairs would be great here, referring to a murder that happened in chapter 4!"--"What the MC just said would be better behind the action he completed after how it was originally written, it makes a better flow." And so on, and so on.

I hope that kinda sparks a little bit of insight on the things you can see in your very own manuscript. If you read it, look at it like an art book, a painting if you will, you'll be able to go line by line and manipulate what you have into a craftier piece of writing. The two key words to this technique is: smooth flow. It is up to an individuals taste, and what they are familiar with. That will be the key to your originality. The best way to describe what I have written so far in this post, it is like naturally putting commas where you take a breath. Sure, I recently read that is a big no-no for a writer. But consider this alternative version. Take your eyes, and run through that line of writing. You should be able to see where things fit that doesn't stress your eyes as a reader. Just like looking at a painting. A sentence in the middle of a paragraph might actually make a smoother transition at the beginning of the paragraph. Thus fixing the entire negativity of how that paragraph originally read. Does that make any sense?

The flip side is that you'll notice way too much wrong, and that it will be a long time before it sizes up to an very exciting read thru. But when you get there, it should definitely be worth it.

I've been doing examples of this in my rough drafts and I think my writing has improved. It made it bold, and it made it stronger. Reinforcing the authority of the actual writing. However, this is all in my opinion. I've actually been doing smaller versions of this since I began writing seriously in 2006.

As of now, I haven't finished my own WIP that I started earlier this month, but I plan to finish the first draft before next summer. It will be my first novel length manuscript. Whether it is a trunk novel or not, I'll probably find out by 2010.

I hope this advice has given a bit more edge to your creativity.

Best of luck to you...and all.

EDIT: Oh an another thing, can't forget about including active voice and all the other writing goodies. What I outlined was just a way to jump start a lifeless reading of a manuscript. It's worked wonders for the enjoyment of my own work.
 
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I understand that growth comes with some pain. And yet, my earlier writing has more life in it. I suspect that's because I wrote it without any expectations. I was just having fun. The moment I started to take it seriously a weight descended on me and I haven't been able to get out from under it.

Don't get me wrong. I've written a couple of short stories that I think are quite good. But I write very slowly, and so I can't just pretend that I'll bang this WIP out in a couple of months, spend a month editing it and then start something new. That's not going to happen. I suspect the editing will take as long as the writing.

It's not all bad, though. Some days the writing absorbs me and I'm not so conscious of myself sitting there writing. Those days are good. Those days are the reason I keep at it.
 

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Right! You see, I KNEW someone would understand. :D

I wonder if it would be easier on my pride if I just fed each page into the shredder as it comes out of the printer.


I think this would be PROOF that someone writes "just for themselves". I mean, I get tired of that line of crap, anyway; but, it would prove that someone really DOES write just for themselves. A sort of ultimate placement of one's words AND fortune where one's mouth is.

Regards,
Scott
 

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I know the subject matter is serious, oh boy do I know! but I did find your post to be well written and entertaining... some encouragement to be gained from that if nothing else? :)

I agree with MisterMonkey. Your post is incredibly entertaining -- I'd love to read your crap and decide for myself.
 
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