How do you shut up the "STUPID"?

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Cranky

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You know what I mean...that snotty voice in your head. You know, the guy (or gal) figuratively reading over your shoulder that snorts in disgust at every turn of phrase, the swotty little turd that laughs at the parts that aren't supposed to be funny, and worst of all, the insufferable know-it-all reviewer you've never had yet that tells you, "My God, I think that's the biggest piece of tripe I've ever read in my life! Did you really think you had some skill, or *gasp*, talent? Bwahahahaha! Excuse me while I go wipe my behind with this thing you call a manuscript."

Er, okay, perhaps I went a bit overboard there, but since this is the brick wall I'm currently beating my skull against, I think I'm entitled to bit of hyperbole.

I've been struggling for over a month now to pound out 7,000 words of a story that I actually like, but every time I come back to it, the last few lines drive me insane! It's like they were written by an alien...I can't understand how I ever thought it was good, or that I've stupidly written my character into a corner, or some such.

I just recently decided that blasting my MP3 player and just skipping over the troublesome parts, or cutting them short is the route I'm going to take. I imagine it's going to cause me some trouble once I finally get to the rewrite stage, but I'm at a loss as to what else I can do.

This is my first serious attempt at a novel in ages, and I've never managed to finish one yet. Short stories are great, but I really want to push myself to do this.

Anyone else struggle with silencing their inner critic? How do you deal with it? (Short of gagging him/her and shoving them into a closet, that is, ha ha)

Oh, and hi, BTW. *waves* Newbie here.
 

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Welcome to AW, Cranky!

What I've learned from doing NaNoWriMo is not to go back and reread while I'm working on the first draft. Even if I'm cringing as I'm writing the words, I keep moving forward. First goal is to get the story on the page. Once the story has an end, I can go back and make everything flow together.

If you haven't found it yet, I highly recommend the "Learn Writing with Uncle Jim" thread in the Writing Novels forum. Lots of good information there, and lots of good suggestions.
 

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I second the "don't reread" advice. Don't fall into the trap of editing the beginning over and over while never adding anything new. Just leave what you've got and keep going. That's how I got through the first draft of my current WIP. And when I went back later and reread some of the scenes I was sure were horrible, they actually worked.

Blogging also helped me. My current blog actually has a theme, but my first blog was just a place where I could write about anything that was on my mind, no editing, no judging. So I got into the habit of just writing whatever came from my fingers when they hit the keys, and it helped A LOT when I started this novel, because I had gotten used to writing fast with the internal editor turned off. Before this novel I hadn't written fiction, not even a short story, in a number of years (bad screenplays don't count).
 

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I would agree with the "don't look back on your first draft" bit. If you don't review anything until you're done with the first draft, you've accomplished 3 things:

1) You've finished a first draft, which is more than most people manage. That in itself feels pretty darn good.
2) You have given yourself permission to write crap. When you go back for second and third draft, you won't despair when you see a horribly written passage. Instead you'll think, "Of course it's bad! I didn't even revise it at all!"
3) You will have given yourself enough space to see the parts that are good. And you may surprise yourself when you go back and discover some real gems.
 

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I second the don't read while you're writing advice.

Also literally have a discussion with this voice. Tell it, "Look, I know you're concerned that I'm writing rubbish, and I appreciate that you're trying to help me" (because it is, believe it or not) "but it's not your turn now. Just let me get it written, and then you can critique all you want, okay?"

This sounds mad but it works. It mightn't work immediatley though. So if the voice intrudes again, just say, kindly but firmly, "No, we're not doing that bit now, remember."

I also recommend EFT, and I've written a free report on how it works to help silence the inner critic. It's available from www.unleash-the-writer-com/freereport. That free report also explains in more detail why your inner voice is trying to sabotage you. (As I said, it's really trying to help you, it just has wrong information).

Hope this helps,

All best,
 

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I just recently decided that blasting my MP3 player and just skipping over the troublesome parts, or cutting them short is the route I'm going to take. I imagine it's going to cause me some trouble once I finally get to the rewrite stage, but I'm at a loss as to what else I can do.

This is precisely what I do. While writing my first drafts, I shut up my internal editor by playing music.
 

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Anyone else struggle with silencing their inner critic? How do you deal with it? (Short of gagging him/her and shoving them into a closet, that is, ha ha).

Look at it from the critic's POV. He's trapped in your head, watching you struggle day after day, so what else is he going to do? You might try turning it around--let him write for a while; let him see how bloody difficult it is. Or...who knows? Maybe you'll get lucky; maybe he's a regular Nabokov.
 

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Nothing wrong with writing your character into a corner. Give him a chance to show you how he gets out of it.

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I agree that not rereading while in the 1st draft stage helps. Of course, that doesn't mean I have ever managed to do things that way. *chuckle* I'm lucky because I've always had very supportive friends. Get yourself a few groupies. :D It doesn't keep the STUPID away, but at least someone's there to help you beat it up and take its lunch money. On the other hand, don't let it go to your head. ;)
 

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Either don't write stupid, or don't give "the stupid" a voice. Second-guessing is normal, but it should never get to the point that it stops you from writing. Look around. There is no other person in the room. There is just you. You can keep writing with the intent of giving it a good go-over on the second draft, or you can cripple yourself now with that second-guessing (blaming it on some non-existent entity). Your choice.
 

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I just shut him up and say, "You know what? I don't really give a F about what you think right now. It's a F'ing first draft. Call me when I'm doing a rewrite. Let's have lunch then."

The "don't re-read what I've written from the beginning" is a good trick to not give Mr. Internal Critic a voice. I've learned to kind of tune him out.
 

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Either don't write stupid, or don't give "the stupid" a voice. Second-guessing is normal, but it should never get to the point that it stops you from writing. Look around. There is no other person in the room. There is just you. You can keep writing with the intent of giving it a good go-over on the second draft, or you can cripple yourself now with that second-guessing (blaming it on some non-existent entity). Your choice.

Thanks, everyone, for the advice. I know you are right, it's just difficult to not get in my own way sometimes.

Just for the record, I'm not "blaming" this on some non-existent entity. I mean, c'mon, the writing comes from me, so I'm pretty sure that the inner critic comes from me, too. I am not delusional...yet. I'm just very frustrated at this tendency I have to sneer at my own work before I really get going on it, even when I *know* it's actually a pretty darn good idea. I figured I am not alone in this, and I was curious to see what other people do to get past it.

Maybe I should re-consider posting late at night, though. I thought it was pretty obvious I was taking a poke at myself. *scratches head*

Thanks again for the advice. Tried and true is called that for a reason, and I ought to remember that!
 

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I treat that voice just like I do any other voice that's not paying for my writing, I ignore it.
 

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Voice

I don't want to shut him up. He's usually right, so I listen to what he says and try to please him.
 

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Keep going, keep going.

I'm writing a little bit of tripe to exercise the writing muscles while I do further research for a novel I badly want to write. I'm not sure if the tripe will be book-length or a longish short story, or publishable. But, right now I'm writing a scene that I KNOW is bad. I'm trying to show something about a character, but it is slow & dull. I KNOW this. It is irritating me, and I'm terrified someone will open the word document accidentally & discover what a terrible writer I am.

It is an exercise in pushing forward. I have no doubt that when I reach the end of this story, I'll think of a better way to show this character trait, and this whole scene will go the way of the dodo. But it's all I have now, so I'm slogging through the crap to get on with it, and fix it later.

Say to yourself, "yep, this part is absolute crap. But somewhere in this big pile of doo-doo is a real gem. I won't be able to find the gem until I get this crap all over the page." So write the crap, & look for the gems on revision.



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Me? I have a nagging little man sitting behind me forehead-he dictates I write-I have learned not to disregard him if I want to sleep or eat or buy expensive things and flaunt me money
 

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If there were a way to shut up the voices in my head, I wouldn't be a writer...

The voices may make you crazy, but without them you can't write. Even the Stupid Voice serves a purpose, you just need to make sure it realizes that its purpose isn't necessary until the second draft. Right now it's time for the Funny Voice and the Clever Voice and the Brilliant Voice and the "Wait-I've-Got-a-New-Idea-for-the-Plot!" Voice. Tell Stupid he'll get his turn. Then ignore him.


Embrace the crazy. I obviously have.
 

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Me? I have a nagging little man sitting behind me forehead-he dictates I write-I have learned not to disregard him if I want to sleep or eat or buy expensive things and flaunt me money

Can you send him over this way, Davids? I need to find a way to get enough money to flaunt it with style! ;)
 

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I'm in the "it's my first draft so of course it's crap but just go ahead and write it" stage with my short story. Since it's only 70 pages or so, I think I can manage to resist the temptation to obesssively spell check or edit it.

I'm really in love with the story and my main characters (erotica, so both the hero and the heroine appeal to me). I'm just in this big rush to see how the story plays itself out. It's given me some really good ideas as I've gone along. I'm scared that if I start editing it and judging it, the giddiness will disappear. :(

I just play with the word counter. That's all I'll let my mouse click. :D
 

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I don't hear that voice anymore, but maybe it has to do with developing my own. Sort of like davids's "nagging little man." That voice is so busy putting words down that there's no room for any other.

It's more of a problem (but not serious) between writing sessions, or on restarting from where I stopped yesterday. A certain amount of reread is essential there just to get in the groove, and I sometimes get hung up because of flaws that emerge then and there. My solution is to bull ahead and get my "little man" shouting again.

Good metaphor, davids.
 

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I don't hear that voice anymore, but maybe it has to do with developing my own. Sort of like davids's "nagging little man." That voice is so busy putting words down that there's no room for any other.

It's more of a problem (but not serious) between writing sessions, or on restarting from where I stopped yesterday. A certain amount of reread is essential there just to get in the groove, and I sometimes get hung up because of flaws that emerge then and there. My solution is to bull ahead and get my "little man" shouting again.

Good metaphor, davids.

That's my dilemma, to a "T". My solution so far is to crank up the music, and just kinda rock out, and write whatever comes to mind. So far (two whole days, yay for me! LOL) it seems to be working.
 

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I don't hear that voice anymore, but maybe it has to do with developing my own. Sort of like davids's "nagging little man." That voice is so busy putting words down that there's no room for any other.

It's more of a problem (but not serious) between writing sessions, or on restarting from where I stopped yesterday. A certain amount of reread is essential there just to get in the groove, and I sometimes get hung up because of flaws that emerge then and there. My solution is to bull ahead and get my "little man" shouting again.

Good metaphor, davids.

It is nice to know one has company I think a sharp will never be a b flat with this kind of altitude!!!!
 

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I have a different method. I do my first scribbling on a yellow pad in longhand, and sometimes get distracted and draw cartoons in the margin. But I keep going, just plow ahead, sometimes writing drek. Then, at some point, when I can, I go to the computer and transcribe all the scribbles, making minor corrections and editions as I go, but not making any serious changes, just leaving stuff mostly as it came out. When I reach the end, after writing much too much, I put it out to pasture for a while then come back to revisit it. That's when the little guy in the red suit and pitchfork starts. "You thought this was great? Yuk! Edit, edit, edit, cut out garbage, get down to the story. Then I need help, because I can't judge my own writing.
 
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