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Well, I'm relatively new here and have lurked as well as posted a bit in the poetry section all the while picking up a lot of valuable information. I'm in the same boat with those in which honking large stories just seems to have happened. I've analyzed and rethought several tracks I can pursue, all upon reading the info contained by this board's good members.
So, the details are this; first time novel, very large word count @ 342K,
a storyline that really has no branches for me to consider cutting, and a plethora of entrenched poetry upon which the story is hinged. So, let's see, seems I have three strikes against me already from what I perceive is the majority opinion after searching the archives of AW. Despite that, I'm going to take a stab at this opportunity nonetheless; I figure I'll not really know anything until I try and that's what I'm going to do.
So this is the question and I suppose I can already guess the outcome, but the choice and preference poll suggested itself; which, if you had a choice, would you rather read--a trilogy of 300 page books or one large tome?
I already know the advice is for me to A)condense to <150K (which I can't possible see doing because it would mean cutting 2/3 of what I have) or B) split the story into parts. I can see natural break points at almost an even 110K and so, a trilogy could be attempted.
I'm asking for this reason and I'll use LoTR as my example; growing up and having read that series, I had 3 books (and I might add, most of what I read then was nearer 200-250 pages in the sci-fi fantasy genre, so this was a long book/series on many levels esp then) to read. Later, as my own kids grew to an appreciative age, I bought LoTR in a single, large form. I read it to them and in truth, if I had my choice again, would prefer the one large tome. Of course I'm thinking that what I've written is much better 'seen/read' as a single unit but realize from the many pieces of advice here, that I'll probably never see the light of published day if I keep it in its present length. Doesn't mean I still don't think it a better idea to NOT separate but I'm trying to loosen my preconceived thoughts from more practical ones.
So, of those series that are true series and not just continuations of a popular storyline, in which form would you prefer to 'read/buy' said series?
Below, the particulars of what I've written;
This ms I've conceived and finished is a cross between historical romance and fantasy, with the bulk centering on historical romance but the fantastical element being the critical underpinning upon which the storyline revolves. A lot of the words and white space generated by the large number of pages is due to the poetry and quite a bit of dialog, each of which I feel pulls and does not slow the reader, making those moments less of a deterrent. I have read that epic historical pieces often go longer than 120K, but what I've read here is that I've eclipsed even that courtesy.
As a followup question, I have received preliminary quotes for 'printing only' and I can easily get this entire story to be printed and bound (paperback, 6x9, perfect bind, 1000 copies) for less than $10 per piece and I expect I could get it lower with a much higher order. With this number in my mind, I'm thinking the cost to print one book vs 3 would not be such a deterrent. The price of three novels could come in at under $25 and a single version could be$20 or so and (I'm assuming) there is still plenty of profit for the publisher. I guess this all comes down to whether a reader/buyer is going to also pass by one large 1000+ page book and instead, take a chance on the $8.99 paperback which might be one of three in a series. Is this the current thought?
Thank you for any and all opinions and further discussion. I've enjoyed reading the threads and participating here. I look forward to doing more of this.
Michael
So, the details are this; first time novel, very large word count @ 342K,
a storyline that really has no branches for me to consider cutting, and a plethora of entrenched poetry upon which the story is hinged. So, let's see, seems I have three strikes against me already from what I perceive is the majority opinion after searching the archives of AW. Despite that, I'm going to take a stab at this opportunity nonetheless; I figure I'll not really know anything until I try and that's what I'm going to do.
So this is the question and I suppose I can already guess the outcome, but the choice and preference poll suggested itself; which, if you had a choice, would you rather read--a trilogy of 300 page books or one large tome?
I already know the advice is for me to A)condense to <150K (which I can't possible see doing because it would mean cutting 2/3 of what I have) or B) split the story into parts. I can see natural break points at almost an even 110K and so, a trilogy could be attempted.
I'm asking for this reason and I'll use LoTR as my example; growing up and having read that series, I had 3 books (and I might add, most of what I read then was nearer 200-250 pages in the sci-fi fantasy genre, so this was a long book/series on many levels esp then) to read. Later, as my own kids grew to an appreciative age, I bought LoTR in a single, large form. I read it to them and in truth, if I had my choice again, would prefer the one large tome. Of course I'm thinking that what I've written is much better 'seen/read' as a single unit but realize from the many pieces of advice here, that I'll probably never see the light of published day if I keep it in its present length. Doesn't mean I still don't think it a better idea to NOT separate but I'm trying to loosen my preconceived thoughts from more practical ones.
So, of those series that are true series and not just continuations of a popular storyline, in which form would you prefer to 'read/buy' said series?
Below, the particulars of what I've written;
This ms I've conceived and finished is a cross between historical romance and fantasy, with the bulk centering on historical romance but the fantastical element being the critical underpinning upon which the storyline revolves. A lot of the words and white space generated by the large number of pages is due to the poetry and quite a bit of dialog, each of which I feel pulls and does not slow the reader, making those moments less of a deterrent. I have read that epic historical pieces often go longer than 120K, but what I've read here is that I've eclipsed even that courtesy.
As a followup question, I have received preliminary quotes for 'printing only' and I can easily get this entire story to be printed and bound (paperback, 6x9, perfect bind, 1000 copies) for less than $10 per piece and I expect I could get it lower with a much higher order. With this number in my mind, I'm thinking the cost to print one book vs 3 would not be such a deterrent. The price of three novels could come in at under $25 and a single version could be$20 or so and (I'm assuming) there is still plenty of profit for the publisher. I guess this all comes down to whether a reader/buyer is going to also pass by one large 1000+ page book and instead, take a chance on the $8.99 paperback which might be one of three in a series. Is this the current thought?
Thank you for any and all opinions and further discussion. I've enjoyed reading the threads and participating here. I look forward to doing more of this.
Michael