A collective name for your series

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If you have a series of novels (or even if you're just planning them), do you have a name for that series? I'm thinking Lord of the Rings, Dark Tower, Chronicles of Narnia and so on. For a Fantasy series I'm working on, I was kicking around the idea for The Chronicles of Sarah. I then heard about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sarah_Conner_Chronicles

So that sort of shags up my idea. What about you? How did you find your collective name for your series?
 

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I don't have one, for my urban fantasy stuff, but I desperately need one. So, I'm anxious to hear what everyone else has to say.
 

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Hmmm... I'm very protective of my work at the moment, so I shall not reveal the name, but I shall reveal part of its meaning.

Now a lot of authors opt for a title that is directly relevant to the material. "The Lord of The Rings" refers to the One Ring (and perhaps the one who forged it, Sauron). "Harry Potter" speaks for itself. "The Chronicles of Narnia" refers to the vast time period of a fictional world, and the adventures had therein at different points in its ancient chronology.

The [working] title of my series is an object, but an object that will not feature in the series at all. It is the nature of this object that is inherent to the theme of the work.

My advice is not to look to the content of your piece for the title, but the ideology ;) .
 
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The [working] title of my series is an object, but an object that will not feature in the series at all. It is the nature of this object that is inherent to the theme of the work.

My advice is not to look to the content of your piece for the title, but the ideology ;) .

Interesting advice. I'll see what I can come up with using that idea.
 

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I'm not writing a series myself - though I have an idea knocking about in my head which might some day become one :) - but Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials is another good example. The title comes from Milton's Paradise Lost and is never mentioned in any of the three books. It's quite an apt title
 

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So that sort of shags up my idea. What about you? How did you find your collective name for your series?
Book titles and series names are determined by the publisher, not the author. Normally, a series will not be considered until the first book is published and sales/orders justify additional books. Put all your time, talent and skills into writing the best first book you can. Come up with a strong working title. But remember that the title is the responsibility of the publisher's marketing department. And if the first book has poor sales, there won't be a series. Good luck.
 

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If you have a series of novels (or even if you're just planning them), do you have a name for that series? I'm thinking Lord of the Rings, Dark Tower, Chronicles of Narnia and so on. For a Fantasy series I'm working on, I was kicking around the idea for The Chronicles of Sarah. I then heard about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sarah_Conner_Chronicles

So that sort of shags up my idea. What about you? How did you find your collective name for your series?

I do have a name for my series (see sig). For the most part, it's the working title and may not actually be the final title.

The collective name is similar to what OddbutInteresting's reason for choosing the name: it's the underlying theme of the series and influences everthing within the series but the title itself doesn't represent anything physical.
 

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Book titles and series names are determined by the publisher, not the author. Normally, a series will not be considered until the first book is published and sales/orders justify additional books. Put all your time, talent and skills into writing the best first book you can. Come up with a strong working title. But remember that the title is the responsibility of the publisher's marketing department. And if the first book has poor sales, there won't be a series. Good luck.
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Does that happen with every published title?

Not EVERY title...but the publisher has a lot to say what the title will become. They want it to sell as much as you do, and will use an means possible to accomplish that task. This usually means retitling a book.
 

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Does that happen with every published title?
No, not always. But sometimes the author is "too close" to the work to see the marketing potential for the book. All major publishers have marketing committees that also include representatives from editorial, sales, and cover design. Before a title is decided upon, most if not all these people must read the book. The title is determined by the collective input and industry experience of the publisher's marketing division, particularly the people that work in the specific genre--mystery, YA, SF, etc.

Also, when a publishing contract is signed, most of the time it will display the author's working title. But the minute the contract is signed, all those issues are now the responsibility of the publisher. Why? Because publishing is a business, not an art form, and it's their money being risked. That's not to say that the author's input will be ignored. With all my thrillers, the publisher asked my input on cover design. But there's no guarantee they will follow it.

Regarding titles, here is some info based upon my own experience. When Lynn Sholes and I decided to collaborate on our first book, we used CORPUS CHRISTI for the working title during the three years it took to write. Since it was a thriller about cloning Christ, we thought using Latin for Body of Christ was so cleaver. But when we sent it off to our agent, she pointed out the error of our ways. Could be a travel guide to a city in Texas. Could be a novelization of a Broadway play running at the same time. So we changed it to THE ENOCHIAN PROPHECY, a brilliant title that no one could pronounce or spell. Our publisher wisely changed it to THE GRAIL CONSPIRACY which has stuck in 21 translations except German. The publisher also decided it should be a series and placed "A Cotten Stone Mystery" on the cover. We had written it as a standalone, but only when we saw the cover for the first time did we realize that they wanted more.

Book 2 had the working title of THE THIRD SECRET. Steve Berry released his thriller by the same name so our agent changed the title to THE LAST SECRET before she submitted the proposal to our publisher. So far, it’s worked for the 14 foreign publishers that have translated it, although we haven’t seen the German version yet.

Book 3 had a working title of INDIGO RUBY for the year it took to write. The title had a great deal of meaning for at least two people: Lynn and myself. Again, the publisher stepped in and wisely renamed it THE HADES PROJECT which is exactly what the books about. Clever.

Our working title for book 4 in the series is BLACK NEEDLES. But we are well aware that it could change once the publisher and their marketing experts read the final draft. Good luck.
 
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Thanks for the detailed info. Most of that was new to me which shows how much I know :D

I don't have a problem with titles, but this series title is different probably because I've never tried it before.
 

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The Protector. Which is kind of boring.

You'll find that shorter titles tend to pack more punch than longer ones. That way the impact of the message is concentrated in one or two words, not evenly-distributed over a string of them.

Abbreviations serve as an icon for something larger. After all, your face is not the only aspect of your body that will attract the eyes of another, but it defines you as an individual.

My parents gave both myself and my brother names that we could shorten. After all, how ballsed would The Fifth Element have been had Corben called Leeloo by her full name all the time?

One hard punch has a greater effect that a dozen light taps of the fist.
 
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My series is about heroes throughout the ages, so I named it (uninspiredly) "The Heroes Series". Keep in mind, I started writing the series long before the T.V. show "Heroes" stole my title. I don't know how they got wind of my manuscript, but I'll find out and WHEN I DO there will be blood!
 

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I chose the names for each book in the Evernight series (the name of the first book also serving as the name for the whole series), and the publisher likes them and is going with them. So you can choose your title(s) -- but keep in mind, somebody's got a veto over your choice.
 

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I have a series of kids fantasy...

I changed the title on my 1st book to be the series name and re-named all the books so they'd have something in common.

cart before the horse - but I even bought the website - just in case.

I'll share names when (if) anything ever comes of it. I am open to they will probably hate it and change everyting. I'm OK with that - I'd rather get published.........(and a webiste reserve only cos $9 for 3 years!)
 

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I have a series of kids fantasy...

I changed the title on my 1st book to be the series name and re-named all the books so they'd have something in common.

cart before the horse - but I even bought the website - just in case.

I'll share names when (if) anything ever comes of it. I am open to they will probably hate it and change everyting. I'm OK with that - I'd rather get published.........(and a webiste reserve only cos $9 for 3 years!)

LoL, I understand that. I have granitewindstarr.com and eablackwell.com

Anyone who wants my pseudonym will have to use .net ;)
 

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How about, Oh Sh*t, Not Again: Reasons Why You Should Keep the Exterminator on Speed-Dial.

...or not.
 

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When Lynn Sholes and I decided to collaborate on our first book, we used CORPUS CHRISTI for the working title during the three years it took to write. Since it was a thriller about cloning Christ, we thought using Latin for Body of Christ was so cleaver.

LOL! When I read what your working title was (Corpus Christi) and took a glance at mine, my heart sank to my gut. :e2thud: I thought..."Holy crapola! Did someone already write the story I've been working on for so long?" Then I read the next line (I should really read through the entire paragraph before reacting) and realized that it's COMPLETELY different. Whew!

Dodged a bullet there.

Still think I'll need to rename it after I'm done. For now, I'm satisfied with what I'm using.
 
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